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Old 08-31-2006, 01:17 PM   #1
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Which Webcam site shave the less?

Which Webcam site shave the less?
And which one shave the most?

I give my vote to clickcash as the best.

Im using:
webcams (I have Seen (-1) in my sale stat, 2 months ago)see the webcams_com FAQ Question #7 (webcams_com Shave)

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cams (I dont trust) (But, better then pussycash)

adultwebmasterempire (testing) Let me know about AWE.

clickcash (still the best)

nem-content / 6-chat (not trusted)

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ARS (I favor clickcash)
resseller sites like g3x wegcash etc (should-I?)
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:26 PM   #2
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:26 PM   #3
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PussyCash, AWE, Mtree = Good, solid, convert

Cams.com = garbage, shit, worthless, waste of traffic, not worth the toilet I shit in

webcams.com & webcamcash = don't convert for shit for me.
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:29 PM   #4
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You can promote Camazon.com

http://www.camazoncash.com/?aid=19182

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Old 08-31-2006, 01:30 PM   #5
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:34 PM   #6
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PussyCash, AWE, Mtree = Good, solid, convert

Cams.com = garbage, shit, worthless, waste of traffic, not worth the toilet I shit in

webcams.com & webcamcash = don't convert for shit for me.
moneytree:
Total: 0 2,922 1 1/2,922 $30.00

too few clicks to jump to a conclusion but I don't think I'll be sending them any more
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:36 PM   #7
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Im stunned
So much info and reseach and experience i read.

Where is the exit here ?
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:40 PM   #8
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Im stunned
So much info and reseach and experience i read.

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you can use my sig for exit
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:50 PM   #9
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Actual a interesting topic... I have been disapointed about cam conversions. The high payout at some camsites vs. paysites makes me wonder, how much of the higher payout is due to the shave. Yes, I know I should not compare apples and oranges, but the lack of realtime signup stats, and detailed refer stats at some camsites, really remind me of the old shaving paysite days
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:52 PM   #10
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If you're worried about shaving, go with revshare cam programs.
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:54 PM   #11
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:01 PM   #12
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If you're worried about shaving, go with revshare cam programs.
What about cam programs offering both revshare and pps... why should there be a difference in the conversion depending, if you send to the revshare or pps option?
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:17 PM   #13
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If you're worried about shaving, go with revshare cam programs.
The incentive to shave would be even higher as they would be paying out more for repeat sales. So as an alternative way of avoiding shave junkies this dont sound logical
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:33 PM   #14
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2. Cams.com - 111 3284 1:30 $16.98

3. ClickCash - 0 1748 0:1748 $0.00

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Old 08-31-2006, 02:38 PM   #15
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Big mistake.

The people behind PussyCash are second to none, period. Give them a shot and I'm certain you won't be sorry.

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Old 08-31-2006, 02:40 PM   #16
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:41 PM   #17
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The incentive to shave would be even higher as they would be paying out more for repeat sales.
Even higher? Maybe, if it was a crook sponsor.

Paying a high PPS for customers that probably will only spend $20 and never come back, now THAT's an incentive to shave. That hurts sponsors alot and makes them rely on whales to level things out, and/or shaving.
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:46 PM   #18
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Even higher? Maybe, if it was a crook sponsor.

Paying a high PPS for customers that probably will only spend $20 and never come back, now THAT's an incentive to shave. That hurts sponsors alot and makes them rely on whales to level things out, and/or shaving.
Very good point
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:52 PM   #19
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:58 PM   #20
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we'd really appreciate it if anyone was interested in voicing their opinions on cam sponsors in a review on sponsu.com - you could win an ipod
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:58 PM   #21
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:00 PM   #22
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:02 PM   #23
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Even higher? Maybe, if it was a crook sponsor.

Paying a high PPS for customers that probably will only spend $20 and never come back, now THAT's an incentive to shave. That hurts sponsors alot and makes them rely on whales to level things out, and/or shaving.
That pretty much sums it up. On revshare a sponsor will only pay out as they receive... less risk.
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:09 PM   #24
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I m sure that AWE is the best... I mean they are good if you have some SE traffic ok? If you have SE trafficbe sure they will convert! About Streamate ... they are good ... and I m going to test pussycash revshare soon
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:17 PM   #25
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AWE only pays 14 rev share.
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:34 PM   #26
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I don't know about the other sites, but 2006 BAA Webcam Site award winner LiveCamNetwork doesn't shave - we don't even do payouts - we leave that up to our CCBill affiliate program - and they don't shave, hell they pay on gross.

It's revshare and most of our LCN Girls turn the boys to mush, and incite huge long term repeat purchases throughout each of the months and the years they hang around...

Done talking - click sig to test traffic.
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:37 PM   #27
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moocash doesnt have any support and doesnt respond to any email. Their program looked and smelled fishy to me

My honest humble opinion. Perhaps i just signed up at a bad time.
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:38 PM   #28
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:40 PM   #29
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:58 PM   #30
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personally I think cams.com shaves a little bit. I dont have proof but I have a hunch. webcams.com is GREAT and has never shaved. those are the only 2 ive sent traffic to. webcams.com converts pretty good too
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This thread is bullshit.

First, I am pretty sure that none of the big / best companies "shave". When reputation is everything and there are millions of dollars going around, who in their right mind would shave a few sales off off here and there?

First, I'm willing to bet that all of the cam companies here are good. Each has different technologies, different performers, different requirements etc etc but I'm sure they are all on the up & up. The cost to SHAVE a few sales here and there takes more effort than its worth anyway.

I think that people who bitch about companies that shave are really just suffering from low sales due to their own lousy traffic or their own lousy chat models.

If all things were equal it might be possible to detect. But face it people, you will have great sales one day, and lousy sales the next. It is impossible to keep every single aspect of your business 100% even all the time.

Think about it: You have a cam site and you want a customer to spend money. What exactly are the parameters of the equation that will equal a sale?

Assuming that the customer you send to that cam site is a real, qualified customer who click on a descriptive link and wasn't led to that site from some bullshit POP-UP or SPAM, the following equation may equal a sale for you : Nice Site + Trust Worthy Site + Sexy Performer + "Personal Connection" to that performer + Credit Card Availability + Room on Credit Card + Wife Not Home + Kids not Home + Hard-on + Right Price + Right Mood = SALE. If any of these are missing, chances are the sale will not take place.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:17 PM   #33
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:21 PM   #34
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personally I think cams.com shaves a little bit. I dont have proof but I have a hunch. webcams.com is GREAT and has never shaved. those are the only 2 ive sent traffic to. webcams.com converts pretty good too
Your just dead wrong !!

We do not shave we never have shaved, it is not in our best interest to do so, As we are a company that expects to be around for a very long time ! If we shaved we would eventually loose our affilaites, our traffic levels continue to grow constantly as more and more affilaites realize we pay out more than anyone else ! There is a reason we are leaving all of our competition in the dust when it comes to traffic and sales growth, it is because at the end of the day we pay more affilaites more money than other programs, that is how you become the biggest site its pretty simple the site that pays the most attracts the traffic, we have been in recent months accelerating our traffic growth ! So to those that make false claims your missing the boat, as our several thousand happy affilaites can aatest to. if your not promoting Cams.com get on it today ! The system that runs cams.com is the same system that powers Adult Friend Finder the clear leader and biggest adult site on the internet today, we got that way by paying out affilaites the most and that is exactly how cams is going to beat every other cam company out there. We have been paying affilaites for 10 years very few other companies can make that claim. Go with the best send your traffic to Cams.com today !!
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:25 PM   #35
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Which Webcam site shave the less?
And which one shave the most?

I give my vote to clickcash as the best.

Im using:
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mtree (Good for me)

pussycash (I dont trust)

cams (I dont trust) (But, better then pussycash)

adultwebmasterempire (testing) Let me know about AWE.

clickcash (still the best)

nem-content / 6-chat (not trusted)

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webcamcash (Derek face de pet)
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resseller sites like g3x wegcash etc (should-I?)

G3X is now Adult Alchemy and yes you should give us a shot if you are looking to try additional PPS models. We pay 35 per free instant access credit card join. The surfer does not have to buy credit for you to get paid.

We allow direct link to join (have a few niche pages for this), and are 100% console free.

Sign up here and contact me with your account ID and I will raise your payout to $50 per join for 3 days just for trying us out.
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SHAVE THIS!

Proove that any of the companies listed on this page truly shave, and I'll let Mediaguy shave my balls live on cam.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:40 PM   #38
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Look at the sorts of people that do business around here. Look at the behaviour of some of these people. Interfering with charity events, talking absolute stupidity, wasting time, etc. I wouldnt put this behaviour past any of them. Anyone can start an affiliate program ya know.
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too few clicks to jump to a conclusion but I don't think I'll be sending them any more
Thu 2006-08-31 576 17 1/33 $340.00
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SHAVE THIS!

Proove that any of the companies listed on this page truly shave, and I'll let Mediaguy shave my balls live on cam.
Not sure if thats a true incentive to find proof...... lol

I own a cam site....affiliate programs in the works if growth without affiliates ever slows enough to get the sites and programs launched. We also run some sites that promote cam programs other than our own. Not seen anything anywhere to suggest anyone shaves....and I am the affiliate there.

My company is US based....same as most. Shaving would destroy our business and invite legal action and same would apply to any Cam company. It just would be commercial and financial suicide to do so yet there are those here and elsewhere that think it goes on.

I know the time, cost and the development cost of my sites and of future projects .....Cam sites are not cheap and the ongoing costs are substantial. Why on earth would these sites shave.
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Old 09-01-2006, 08:45 AM   #42
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Check out Pornication. Everybody using us are quite please.

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webcams.com - checks take to long to get to me. quick epass payment. great support. excellent ratios
clickcash.com - non fedex checks come fast. great ratios and fast support
mtree - checks come fast. great ratios. support hasn't responded to any of my emails
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mtree - checks come fast. great ratios. support hasn't responded to any of my emails
Very unusual, I always got an answer from them.
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I can tell you that WebcamCash doesn't shave...we don't have time to! LOL We have affiliates who have been receiving revshare checks for years. We've been around for over 6 years now, its in our best interest to work with our affiliates to make them money. As. when they do, we do.

Our high repuation speaks for itself. We thrive to be the best webcam program out there, with all our new niche sites, outstanding toolset and great affiliate support. If you haven't tried us out, then you should. We will work with you to get your traffic to convert with us.

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Your just dead wrong !!

We do not shave we never have shaved, it is not in our best interest to do so, As we are a company that expects to be around for a very long time ! If we shaved we would eventually loose our affilaites, our traffic levels continue to grow constantly as more and more affilaites realize we pay out more than anyone else ! There is a reason we are leaving all of our competition in the dust when it comes to traffic and sales growth, it is because at the end of the day we pay more affilaites more money than other programs, that is how you become the biggest site its pretty simple the site that pays the most attracts the traffic, we have been in recent months accelerating our traffic growth ! So to those that make false claims your missing the boat, as our several thousand happy affilaites can aatest to. if your not promoting Cams.com get on it today ! The system that runs cams.com is the same system that powers Adult Friend Finder the clear leader and biggest adult site on the internet today, we got that way by paying out affilaites the most and that is exactly how cams is going to beat every other cam company out there. We have been paying affilaites for 10 years very few other companies can make that claim. Go with the best send your traffic to Cams.com today !!

Very nice professional Reply Lars, Havnt seen u in a while
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:37 PM   #48
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The PPS model have always been a numbers game
Thanks but I am getting by on what I am doing now..... time to actually launch an affiliate set up would be nice though
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Old 09-01-2006, 07:21 PM   #49
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The PPS model have always been a numbers game
and the numbers don't add up to where these companies (cam or paysite)
can make the rediculous payouts they claim without either a direct shave
or some form of filtering off traffic away from affiliates.

contrary to what sheep believe.
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Old 09-03-2006, 03:04 AM   #50
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Thanks, all of you for the comments.

Yes, All of them shave. (my opinion and experience)

Right,Very nice professional Reply "legendaryLie"

pussycash and lars shaving me for years and it still on this way.

Webcams_com, have THE best promotion Tools. but, Where is the money?

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