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Grapesoda · 08-23-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

im interested in what image you chose.

the first one I think, don't remember . . email me . . I'll send it to you . . looks okay . . the BG is a bit blown though . . had to do mucho work

Grapesoda · 08-23-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Why do people keep talking about photography?

WE ARE NOT IN THE PHOTOGRAPHY BUSINESS WE ARE PORNOGRAPHERS. YOU ARE A PORNOGRAPHER NOT A PHOTOGRAPHER. YOU SELL PORN NOT PHOTOS. PEOPLE BUY MEMBERSHIPS TO PORN SITES NOT PHOTOGRAPHY SITES.

So now tell me what type of PORN that is, I'm here to learn.

actually paul I am a photographer . . only shooting porn right now for $$$ . . I'll always shoot erotica . . but not gapes and that stuff and I do not shoot bg at this time . . big difference between erotica and porn

Paul Markham · 08-23-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Exactly, the pornography. Who gives a fuck about the rest of the stuff, "Oh, is she looking at me, what is she thinking, what kind of perfume is she wearing?" Seriously, who cares. Is she hot? Yes. When I look at her do I want to see more? Yes. Would I fuck her? Yes.

You named three niches that aren't niches at all really, just types of photography. Who cares what niche it falls into? You're telling me that if you have a site where people send in pictures of their teenage girlfriends you're not going to take their money if they want to sign up to your teen site, because the photography is different and they are obviously dumb for not knowing the difference, and they shouldn't be able to get off on two kinds of photography? Or that you can't cross sell the two, because one of the sites has glossy pictures and one site has pictures shot with bad lighting?

Who gives a fuck about the rest of the stuff? The guys spending $30 a month.

Would you fuck her? I think the answer is yes. The real money is in the WOULD SHE FUCK YOU, YES SHE WOULD?

What makes you think these are pictures taken by a lover of a lover. These are pictures taken by a stranger of a stranger. The difference is 1-500 and 1-2000. Up to you what route you take.

And still you came back to the photography, did you not read what I said?

Paul Markham · 08-23-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

I've heard yer stuff is all over . . I never see it though to be honest . . really only look at the sites I shoot for to see the competition

The 200 comment was me being sarcastic. If we sold a set 200 times you would never be selling custom.

The truth is we sell a "nice" solo girl set/video about 20 times. So reckon on 1,000 a set. Then it dies and moves to Bargain Basement. where we sell it 50 times at $10.

Not a fortune but a little more than $400. And not enough to employ you to shoot for us.

Plus it does not get saturated unless it's very good and stolen to post everywhere. With a watermark that is worth it's weight in gold. It gets saturated by sponsors giving it to 1,000 affiliates to post on TGPs. Membership content never gets saturated.

That's why we charge more for our license to give it to affiliates. No one takes it up on Paul Markham c com content. would make a scene the same price as exclusive. There is a reason we price it that high.

Shoehorn! · 08-23-2006, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Who gives a fuck about the rest of the stuff? The guys spending $30 a month.

And there is your problem. So hes spending $30 a month, good, so are the rest of the members. When you start not caring about one member you start not caring about all your members.

The bottom line is that you don't need to be a good photographer to be a good pornographer, and it isn't necessary to critique every detail of someone elses work just to belittle them and make yourself look better.

Paul Markham · 08-24-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BigPimpCash

Guess some people think a image as to be some girl getting fucked... Paul if you dont know what Niche these pics are then I seriously doubt it would be possible for me to educate you...

As people have said some will love, some will hate... Guess cant please every one

Anyways Paul it is good to see you making the transistion into paysites from your content background... guess I am kinda making the same transisition the other way round... just seeing an opportunity to add a revenue stream to my business... just a shame had to get all personal and slam what I am trying to do

Oh well such is the life of a pornographer...

I'm not trying to slam you, I'm trying to give you and everyone else some advice.

A poorly lit and badly color balanced picture of a girl could be one taken by a boyfriend.

If she has a look in her eyes that tells you she is being shot by a lover. If she has a look in her eyes that makes you think it was shot by a stranger it's just a bad picture.

I never said a picture has to be of some girl getting fucked. I am saying to make it sell it has to look like she is thinking of getting fucked.

OK these are hardcore, but ignore that. They are girls being shot by someone they know, like and might even be fucking. These are amateur.

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8227

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8197

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8193

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8139

Forget about the lighting, color balance and the girl. Look at the contact in the girls eyes and think, shot by a lover or stranger, chance SHE WILL FUCK ME or not? Yes they are smiling, this is common amongst lovers. Eva and I smile at each other all the time.

You can do this, you need to change the way you work the models. It's easy and will make you a lot more money.

BigPimpCash · 08-24-2006, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I'm not trying to slam you, I'm trying to give you and everyone else some advice.

A poorly lit and badly color balanced picture of a girl could be one taken by a boyfriend.

If she has a look in her eyes that tells you she is being shot by a lover. If she has a look in her eyes that makes you think it was shot by a stranger it's just a bad picture.

I never said a picture has to be of some girl getting fucked. I am saying to make it sell it has to look like she is thinking of getting fucked.

OK these are hardcore, but ignore that. They are girls being shot by someone they know, like and might even be fucking. These are amateur.

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8227

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8197

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8193

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8139

Forget about the lighting, color balance and the girl. Look at the contact in the girls eyes and think, shot by a lover or stranger, chance SHE WILL FUCK ME or not? Yes they are smiling, this is common amongst lovers. Eva and I smile at each other all the time.

You can do this, you need to change the way you work the models. It's easy and will make you a lot more money.

I think you are truely on drugs dude... this as turned into a LoveFest between you and Wanton, which is cute, get a room, oil each other up and tell each other how great you are...

I looked at your pics and they dont do anything for me... cause she is smiling in some of the pics you think that means it looks like she wants to fuck ! WTF...

I shoot adult too, I could post some of the pics but I really cant be bothered with this line of argument... Bottom line Paul plenty of people like my pics... I shoot mainly teasy soft core images... loads of girl girl kissing, messing around in oil, lickign cream off each other... as I say tease...

And I love the line about giving us all advice, in one post you ask the question why people think you know a lot about everything... well it's proberly the way you come over... preaching to people... yes I asked for advice, but got to love the way you delivered your advice... As ShoeHorn said... belittle !

BigPimpCash · 08-24-2006, 04:20 AM

Couldnt resist postign a few more of my crap pics... I dug out soem smiley ones, cause obviously cause a girl smiles means she wants to fuck... heaven forbid she as a sultry look on her face, or a teasy face... yep it's offical you got to smile so it looks like you being shot by your lover, and not a stranger

BigPimpCash · 08-24-2006, 04:21 AM

I'm on a roll now...

OK I am done

jonesy · 08-24-2006, 08:02 AM

big pimp ya just killed em

BigPimpCash · 08-24-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

big pimp ya just killed em

But maybe I should of photochopped the spot on her ass

jonesy · 08-24-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

the first one I think, don't remember . . email me . . I'll send it to you . . looks okay . . the BG is a bit blown though . . had to do mucho work

hey wanton

sent ya an email havent gotten the pic

jonesy · 08-24-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I'm not trying to slam you, I'm trying to give you and everyone else some advice.

A poorly lit and badly color balanced picture of a girl could be one taken by a boyfriend.

If she has a look in her eyes that tells you she is being shot by a lover. If she has a look in her eyes that makes you think it was shot by a stranger it's just a bad picture.

I never said a picture has to be of some girl getting fucked. I am saying to make it sell it has to look like she is thinking of getting fucked.

OK these are hardcore, but ignore that. They are girls being shot by someone they know, like and might even be fucking. These are amateur.

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8227

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8197

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8193

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...ls.php?id=8139

Forget about the lighting, color balance and the girl. Look at the contact in the girls eyes and think, shot by a lover or stranger, chance SHE WILL FUCK ME or not? Yes they are smiling, this is common amongst lovers. Eva and I smile at each other all the time.

You can do this, you need to change the way you work the models. It's easy and will make you a lot more money.

im fucking speechless.....

jonesy · 08-25-2006, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

hey wanton

sent ya an email havent gotten the pic

bizzzump

Grapesoda · 08-25-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

hey wanton

sent ya an email havent gotten the pic

sorry try agian had a few email probs . . please put a clear subject line . . I get mucho spam to sort through

Grapesoda · 08-25-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

bizzzump

test shot from yesterday . . might be a bit soft around the eyes . .

jonesy · 08-27-2006, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

sorry try agian had a few email probs . . please put a clear subject line . . I get mucho spam to sort through

thanks man - i thought something might be up

the subject line will read - hey wanton its jonesy from gfy

Paul Markham · 08-27-2006, 01:01 AM

BigPimpCash why did you not post those pictures in the first place?

If you did, you would not of got the advice you did get. I can only speak about what you put up. These are a lot better.

They show the fun, the openness, the spontaneity of a shoot that was done for fun, by a lover maybe and not for pure financial gain by both the model and photographer.

You came here looking for advice, and to spam

, if you only wanted positive comments you should of gone elsewhere.

Why should models smile when doing "Amateur"

It shows they are having fun, a smile is a good thing and it's easy to make a model smile.

Trying to make an experienced model look "Horny" "Sultry" Sexy" is tough and for amateur why try to do the hard things when the easy things sell better?

How you do this is by your relationship with models, or girls willing to pose, from the moment you meet them. Some need to be controlled with a tight leash, some need to be given freedom, some need to be told they are stunningly beautiful, making you hard as a rock and the only thing stopping you from putting down the camera is your wife standing behind you. Others need to be told they are not as special as the girl you shot yesterday.

It's about stimulating them into delivering more than a lump of flesh and the difference between a nice photo and porno.

You delivered on these. Put the girls into panties or even jeans in some of the shots and you still have porno.

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BigPimpCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 808	Couldnt Resist... Couldnt resist postign a few more of my crap pics... I dug out soem smiley ones, cause obviously cause a girl smiles means she wants to fuck... heaven forbid she as a sultry look on her face, or a teasy face... yep it's offical you got to smile so it looks like you being shot by your lover, and not a stranger __________________ BIG PIMP CASH - Upto 70% Revshare and Upto 30$ PPS [email protected] - ICQ - 197119155 Need Content ? TRASHY CONTENT

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08-27-2006, 01:01 AM	#68
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	BigPimpCash why did you not post those pictures in the first place? If you did, you would not of got the advice you did get. I can only speak about what you put up. These are a lot better. They show the fun, the openness, the spontaneity of a shoot that was done for fun, by a lover maybe and not for pure financial gain by both the model and photographer. You came here looking for advice, and to spam , if you only wanted positive comments you should of gone elsewhere. Why should models smile when doing "Amateur" It shows they are having fun, a smile is a good thing and it's easy to make a model smile. Trying to make an experienced model look "Horny" "Sultry" Sexy" is tough and for amateur why try to do the hard things when the easy things sell better? How you do this is by your relationship with models, or girls willing to pose, from the moment you meet them. Some need to be controlled with a tight leash, some need to be given freedom, some need to be told they are stunningly beautiful, making you hard as a rock and the only thing stopping you from putting down the camera is your wife standing behind you. Others need to be told they are not as special as the girl you shot yesterday. It's about stimulating them into delivering more than a lump of flesh and the difference between a nice photo and porno. You delivered on these. Put the girls into panties or even jeans in some of the shots and you still have porno. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70