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Old 08-15-2006, 02:22 AM   #1
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The Gypsies across the road took their horse for a walk this morning (pics)

on the main road by attaching a rope to the horse and having a guy in the back of an open van pull him.











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Old 08-15-2006, 02:29 AM   #2
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what the fuck? Hope you rang the RSPCA.
There was a crazy gypo horse trade sale thing up near me a few months back, they just appeared over night, thousands of horses, thousands of gypos.. It was crazy. Most of the horses were treated like shit though.
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:31 AM   #3
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I think that guy is just really lazy.
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The reason I was taking pictures was to try to get his number plate. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't get it in a picture. Maybe it didn't even have one which is more than possible.
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and yeah, they craze their horses on the land the belongs to our flats..like the front lawn. Their camp is across the street with maybe 50 houses on a small lot. I have no idea why our landlords let that happen. This is a busy part of the city and horses don't belong here let alone grazing on crappy city grass.
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duh..just noticed the number plate on the front. I'm going to try to zoom in and read it on the larger pic
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The human race never ceases to disappoint me Why do people who live in cities and like areas, insist on having barnyard animals??
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LMAO ? so gypsies exist in england ? I thought they only existed in the movie Snatch
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LMAO ? so gypsies exist in england ? I thought they only existed in the movie Snatch

they call themselves 'travellers' but yes they do
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The human race never ceases to disappoint me Why do people who live in cities and like areas, insist on having barnyard animals??
If they actually owned any of the land the live on maybe it would be a bit better but to squat on the land and then force your horses to live in such bad situations is just not right.
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:55 AM   #12
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wow that is crazy, didn't think they existed either.
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Old 08-15-2006, 04:57 AM   #14
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I wonder who he had to fight to get that nice van
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Nah, Gypsies can exist anywhere............down sewers, on rubbish tips or even in your dustbin.

Never met a good one yet.
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Everything in the possesion of a Gypsie most likely (99%) of the time belongs to someone else, They steal everything and anything they can, One time we had a company coating the blacktop at one of our office buildings when the cops should up, the guy ( a gypsie) had stolen the vehicle from another state and came to michigan to make money by doing work.
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My rent is amazingly cheap for a place like this in a London location because they live across the street.
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They may not be 'squatters'. Unless the law has changed recently, they have to be provided with camp sites. Those sites don't need to amount to anything more than a clear space and a couple of taps, but that depends on the council in question. The best known gypsy site in London is/was a space underneath the M40 at the junction you take to get to Shepherds Bush.

BTW gypsies have a couple of big fairs every year (one place I believe is Stow-in-the-Wold in the Cotswolds) where they meet up to trade horses etc. There will always be exceptions, but since many make their living breeding horses and horses are very much still a part of their culture, most are likely to care for their animals, in practical if not cosmetic ways.
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was the horse attahced to the van or the fat guy ?
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They don't own that land. They turned up about 12 years ago and started building prefab houses and moving in caravans. It looks like a mini-City of God over there at times. The company that owns out houses and that land has changed hands a couple times since they moved in and every time somebody new owns these places they try to get them off that land but it doesn't happen.

They then put their horses out to graze on land that also doesn't belong to them. Which in our area means the lawns of other people and some swamp land in front of a sewage plant down the road. Again, not their land.

Not many over there pay taxes and they the source of much of the drugs dealt in our town. About twice a year the police are over there doing a raid. We know because they have to block off the road to flush the drains for the drugs they put down the toilet when they saw them coming.

On bonfire night - and for like the two weeks surrounding it - they aim fire works at our houses. Last year a number landed on balconies and roofs. Not only at night but during the day and not only at houses but at people daring to use the car wash which was put next to their site after some of the land was managed to be claimed back from them. If you use that car was during the fireworks period you better run into your car.
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was the horse attahced to the van or the fat guy ?
the guy was holding the rope
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They have this whole "we can do what we like" attitude "and fuck everyone around us".

If they want to drop out, then fine - but they still need to concider those around them - or go someplace there isnt anybody else to piss off.

I couldnt live where you are with my temper - if I saw that horse being dragged along like that on one of my bad days Id be out there with a baseball bat, and it wouldnt have a good ending for anybody involved.
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yeah but make yourself known to them and you better watch your step every where you go
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Wouldn't it be easier to just ride the horse?
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Wouldn't it be easier to just ride the horse?
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I just had to pop in my Snatch DVD because of this thread..
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There are about 50,000 gypsies in England and many more across Europe. They have been marginalized and often brutally treated for more than 500 years and large numbers live in poverty as a result: hence their mistrust of mainstream culture. The image of gypsies as feckless and dishonest is entirely contrived and has nothing at all to do with their history. During the 19th century there were movements in most European countries to stir up peasant-based nationalism and that was done in part by praising the lifestyle and values of the peasantry. At the same time, the contrary values of gypsies were demonized and that is the reputation which has followed them since.
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....The image of gypsies as feckless and dishonest is entirely contrived ......
lol - trust me they are a mightmare - I dont think they even see it as stealing - they just see it as a right.
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BTW there are about 1 million gypsies in the US: the first ones arrived with Columbus on his third voyage. Others followed in further "forced transportations" as Europe tried to get rid of its "gypsy problem".
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lol - trust me they are a mightmare - I dont think they even see it as stealing - they just see it as a right.
I imagine they see it as fair game to prey on a society in which they have no role. I don't find that especially surprising nor indicative of an ethnic flaw, since it is pretty much how society at large operates.
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There are about 50,000 gypsies in England and many more across Europe. They have been marginalized and often brutally treated for more than 500 years and large numbers live in poverty as a result: hence their mistrust of mainstream culture. The image of gypsies as feckless and dishonest is entirely contrived and has nothing at all to do with their history. During the 19th century there were movements in most European countries to stir up peasant-based nationalism and that was done in part by praising the lifestyle and values of the peasantry. At the same time, the contrary values of gypsies were demonized and that is the reputation which has followed them since.
so who are they really? an ethnicity? just a group of drifters who don't like modern society? circus people? i'm just glad there not here.
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i'm just glad there not here.
Sorry. Canada has about 80,000... they even have a movie: http://www.der.org/films/opra-roma.html
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so who are they really? an ethnicity? just a group of drifters who don't like modern society? circus people? i'm just glad there not here.
The Romani people have a long and sometimes sad history. I am of Romani descent myself. If you want some more info look here...
There are a lot of stories associated with the people, but their culture is actually a rich one and it's unfortunate that they have fallen so far.

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their culture is actually a rich one and it's unfortunate that they have fallen so far.
At different times in history they have played important roles. And if 13 million Jews are to be credited for preserving their identity in the face of persecution, it is sad that 8 million Romanis are still being persecuted in many countries.
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I imagine they see it as fair game to prey on a society in which they have no role. I don't find that especially surprising nor indicative of an ethnic flaw, since it is pretty much how society at large operates.
Then it is okay to break laws. I would never speak of an entire race but the gypsies in our area are violent, steal and deal drugs whilist largely working under the table but publicly demanding community money. I am sure there are many good people amongst them. The gypsies that live across from us are Irish and I wouldn't claim at all to know the major differences between the groups but I do know that the ones across the street from me break laws left, right and centre. Those are who I was complainging about - not every gypsy in the world.
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No more than I would claim that any race consists entirely of blameless people

But there is much more to gypsies than the common prejudices which were showing themselves in reponse to your post, so I didn't think a little balance would be entirely out of place.

And in purely practical terms, while legally we can hold gypsies to account if they do not follow our rules, since we have forced them completely outside our societies for so long, would it really be surprising if they have no respect for those societies? All over the world people are preying on their neighbors much as you describe. Given that it is always wrong, is it worse to prey on your own community or on one to which you do not belong?
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No more than I would claim that any race consists entirely of blameless people

But there is much more to gypsies than the common prejudices which were showing themselves in reponse to your post, so I didn't think a little balance would be entirely out of place.

And in purely practical terms, while legally we can hold gypsies to account if they do not follow our rules, since we have forced them completely outside our societies for so long, would it really be surprising if they have no respect for those societies? All over the world people are preying on their neighbors much as you describe. Given that it is always wrong, is it worse to prey on your own community or on one to which you do not belong?
i don't buy that. its like black people still blaming slavery even though it ended over 100 years ago. the gypsies are choosing to remain outside of society. they could get citizenship, get a job and be just like the rest of us. the excuse that because they were persecuted in the past and are treated like crap now because they refuse to follow the rules everyone one else has to go by just doesn't fly. how do most people 'prey' on their communities? criminals aren't the majority of people out there.
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No more than I would claim that any race consists entirely of blameless people

But there is much more to gypsies than the common prejudices which were showing themselves in reponse to your post, so I didn't think a little balance would be entirely out of place.

And in purely practical terms, while legally we can hold gypsies to account if they do not follow our rules, since we have forced them completely outside our societies for so long, would it really be surprising if they have no respect for those societies? All over the world people are preying on their neighbors much as you describe. Given that it is always wrong, is it worse to prey on your own community or on one to which you do not belong?
They have chosen to live in another community, and they have to follow the rules set out by that community. If they dont they should be punished and chastised like anybody else. History is not a valid excuse.
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