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Old 08-08-2006, 05:51 AM   #101
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:23 AM   #102
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The attacks of September 11th, 2001 were accomplished through an amazing orchestration of logistics and personnel. Crossing the Rubicon discovers and identifies the key suspects and persons of interest - finding some of them in the highest echelons of American government - by showing how they acted in concert to guarantee that the attacks occurred and produced the desired result.
as I'm sure you read the book, tell us who the key suspects are and what the desired result was
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:38 AM   #103
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Dude, we don't ban books. not sure where you'd ever read that except mr. Robin de Ruiter's book.

The usa has banned countless books..not sure where you get your info from
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:45 AM   #104
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The usa has banned countless books..not sure where you get your info from
oh not countless ...



but quite a few
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:01 AM   #105
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as I'm sure you read the book, tell us who the key suspects are and what the desired result was
Key suspects: Richard B. Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, General Richard Meyers, General Eberhart, Wolfowitz, Perle (and all the other PNAC people) and another hundred or so individuals across all branches of the intelligence services and private "think tanks". This structure is what has been known since the 1960s as constituting the "shadow government". They are the real power players. Bush was in the know for sure, but he was a bit player who was steamrolled into this thing. He had nothing to do with engineering it. He can barely ties his own shoe laces and that's the way the power players like it.

Desired Result: A state of perpetual war that will last 50 years minimum. It will allow the US to mitigate the effects of "Peak Oil" - the depletion of economically retrievable oil from the last remaining oil reserves on the planet by taking over the middle east and basically stealing whatever oil is left. If the US does not do that, then the US way of life will effectively end within a decade. Of course it's a damned if you do, damed if you don't situation. Because by pilfering most of the oil for ourselves, we will tank the world economy anyway, and that will also cause a massive economic disaster here at home.

The end game is war with China. That will be the "Final Conflict". The aim is to crush the rising Chinese Tiger in the same way Japan was decimated in WWII. Only problem is that China has nukes and over a billion people.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:04 AM   #106
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The usa has banned countless books..not sure where you get your info from
once you stopp pretending that "banning" means "keeping certain books out of the reach of children" you'll stop seeming so silly.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:07 AM   #107
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Key suspects: Richard B. Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, General Richard Meyers, General Eberhart, Wolfowitz, Perle (and all the other PNAC people) and another hundred or so individuals across all branches of the intelligence services and private "think tanks". This structure is what has been known since the 1960s as constituting the "shadow government". They are the real power players. Bush was in the know for sure, but he was a bit player who was steamrolled into this thing. He had nothing to do with engineering it. He can barely ties his own shoe laces and that's the way the power players like it.

Desired Result: A state of perpetual war that will last 50 years minimum. It will allow the US to mitigate the effects of "Peak Oil" - the depletion of economically retrievable oil from the last remaining oil reserves on the planet by taking over the middle east and basically stealing whatever oil is left. If the US does not do that, then the US way of life will effectively end within a decade. Of course it's a damned if you do, damed if you don't situation. Because by pilfering most of the oil for ourselves, we will tank the world economy anyway, and that will also cause a massive economic disaster here at home.

The end game is war with China. That will be the "Final Conflict". The aim is to crush the rising Chinese Tiger in the same way Japan was decimated in WWII. Only problem is that China has nukes and over a billion people.
hahaha, ok.
how do you get into the shadow government, who are some of the people in it from the 60s?
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:11 AM   #108
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Key suspects: Richard B. Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, General Richard Meyers, General Eberhart, Wolfowitz, Perle (and all the other PNAC people) and another hundred or so individuals across all branches of the intelligence services and private "think tanks". This structure is what has been known since the 1960s as constituting the "shadow government". They are the real power players. Bush was in the know for sure, but he was a bit player who was steamrolled into this thing. He had nothing to do with engineering it. He can barely ties his own shoe laces and that's the way the power players like it.
....and I forgot to mention the most key players of all: THE BIN LADEN FAMILY of Saudi Arabia. They are Bush family confidents and CIA assets since the 1970s. Bin Laden construction builds all the US military bases in the middle east. The family has been instrumental in applying US foreign policy in Afghanistan and other countries since the 1980s by leading covert operations (training of anti-Soviet guerillas, etc.). Osama has always been, and still is (if he is alive) a CIA asset. He is NOT the black sheep of the family. He is intimately connected with all of this.

Moore's Farhenheit 911 did at least draw some attention to the Bin Laden connection: Bush stopped the FBI from investigating Bin Laden's brothers who were living just one mile from CIA HQ in Langley, VA. He allowed all the Bin Ladens to fly out of the US on 911 when all other air traffic was grounded. Bush senior was meeting with Bin Ladens on 911 in a Caryle Group meeting in D.C.....
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:17 AM   #109
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hahaha, ok.
how do you get into the shadow government, who are some of the people in it from the 60s?
Henry Kissinger for one. He is one of the few of the dwindling "old gaurd". He has always been a front man for the Rockefeller family and their brainchild, The Council on Foreign Relations.

As for getting in, the club is not open to internet pornographers so don't bother. The web of power is complex. I am not about to distill a 700-page book into a few soundbites, which would not make much sense out of context.

When Allen Dulles introduced the Warren Commission's findings to the press corp, he arrogantly boasted that "we can get away with this stuff because the American people don't read".
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