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Wolfy · 08-05-2006, 04:56 PM

Help a brutha out with some tips - how can I make it look like there is more content in the members area, how can I best generate cross sales, WHO should I cross sell to... amateur niche.

andrej_NDC · 08-05-2006, 05:03 PM

1.) Be honest with the tour, it will pay off in the long run.
2.) Forget about cross sales for now, get sales first.

godisdead · 08-05-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfy

how can I make it look like there is more content in the members area

Have more content in the members area. Or display the content you already have better. Improve your sales pages.

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Originally Posted by Wolfy

how can I best generate cross sales, WHO should I cross sell to... amateur niche.

Contact other paysites in the amateur niche and ask for cross sale.

You'd first have to make sure that you have a decent conversion rate in general. This will increase your possibility of successfully converting other paysites to joint venture with you.

tony286 · 08-05-2006, 05:06 PM

worse time to get in to adult find another hobby

Wolfy · 08-05-2006, 05:07 PM

I totally appreciate that, but i don't have much fear about getting sales - I have my own traffic and I know how good it is. I was telling one of my models kind of the same thing - she wanted to put her best pics up in the tour and the galleries, but I believe that will only lead to chargebacks.

One thing I definately need, though, is more content - and my budget is running THIN.

Any suggestions?

Wolfy · 08-05-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

worse time to get in to adult find another hobby

haha, your name just gave me another question - what's the best kind of 404 page for a new paysite?

Wolfy · 08-05-2006, 05:30 PM

I mean, should I give one popup and then redirect to the main page, should I use one of them funky "open directory" looking pages....

Wolfy · 08-05-2006, 06:41 PM

I <3 surfers

Lykos · 08-05-2006, 06:43 PM

good luck with it mate!

Violetta · 08-05-2006, 06:49 PM

My budget was thin as hell when I started my site(s) over a year ago. Just buy some new content every month when the money comes in. Running and building a paysite costs your shirt. Be aware!

Wolfy · 08-05-2006, 06:55 PM

I figured as much, I spent $500 on content so far and after I put it together I looked at it, like... oh hell, this aint shit!

Kristian · 08-05-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

1.) Be honest with the tour, it will pay off in the long run.
2.) Forget about cross sales for now, get sales first.

I dont own or run a paysite, but this seems like excellent advice. And Andrej should know, if anyone does.

Wolfy · 08-05-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian

I dont own or run a paysite, but this seems like excellent advice. And Andrej should know, if anyone does.

it does sound good indeed - I've been in sales for many years, and it's always better to underpromise and overdeliver.

Not always possible, but always better :D

GlamourGirlContent · 08-05-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfy

I figured as much, I spent $500 on content so far and after I put it together I looked at it, like... oh hell, this aint shit!

Hey Wolfy,
I cannot really help you with your problem and I don't kn ow where you got your content from but if you need some real good content in the future you might keep us in your mind! We can always work a good deal out, for both of us!
Just take a look...

http://www.glamourgirlcontent.com/

Wolfy · 08-05-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GlamourGirlContent

Hey Wolfy,
I cannot really help you with your problem and I don't kn ow where you got your content from but if you need some real good content in the future you might keep us in your mind! We can always work a good deal out, for both of us!
Just take a look...

http://www.glamourgirlcontent.com/

thanks buddy - bookmarked.

The Ghost · 08-05-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

1.) Be honest with the tour, it will pay off in the long run.
2.) Forget about cross sales for now, get sales first.

Agreed. Not being honest in the tour is one of the cardinal sins of having a site. Unless you want chargebacks and a huge amount of added agrevation for no reason.

Since you have your own traffic, the question you really need to consider is if you would truly make more money sending it to your own site. It may seem like a good idea and is, but only under the assumption that you would convert it at the same or higher rate if you sent it to a good sponsor with a similar retention rate.

I'm sure you know that the entire membership price is not profit. It's a gross that is reduced by processing fees, hosting, content, promo material and a hundred other things. I'm on icq if you would like to talk more. Good luck.

babymaker · 08-05-2006, 09:53 PM

good advice Ghost :D

fallenmuffin · 08-05-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfy

haha, your name just gave me another question - what's the best kind of 404 page for a new paysite?

Back to the main tour....

V_RocKs · 08-05-2006, 10:46 PM

Hmm... $500 for content is a VERY LOW amount...

You could look for a financial backer to inflate the members area 10 fold. Often you will find people who have money but no drive... Airek runs RageCash which makes a lot of money. He doesn't own it. Someone else does. You might want to look into getting a financial backer and sharing the profit with this person.

Wolfy · 08-06-2006, 07:11 AM

Thanks V, good advice.

Wolfy · 08-06-2006, 07:12 AM

Thanks V, good advice.

H0witzer · 08-06-2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfy

building my first paysite! .

dont bother.. you will lose all your $ and time

avalanche · 08-06-2006, 10:57 AM

For $500 you'd be better at free sites, submitting....go buy some partner accounts.

andrej_NDC · 08-06-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristian

I dont own or run a paysite, but this seems like excellent advice. And Andrej should know, if anyone does.

Hey bud, long time no see.

andrej_NDC · 08-06-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

Agreed. Not being honest in the tour is one of the cardinal sins of having a site. Unless you want chargebacks and a huge amount of added agrevation for no reason.

Since you have your own traffic, the question you really need to consider is if you would truly make more money sending it to your own site. It may seem like a good idea and is, but only under the assumption that you would convert it at the same or higher rate if you sent it to a good sponsor with a similar retention rate.

I'm sure you know that the entire membership price is not profit. It's a gross that is reduced by processing fees, hosting, content, promo material and a hundred other things. I'm on icq if you would like to talk more. Good luck.

Exactly, a membership of $29.95 can be easily $10 profit. Then its better to promote some good sponsor and get $15-20 from such a membership. But I say risk it, if you work clever, you will make more when you learn how to run the program properly.

adonthenet · 08-06-2006, 11:56 AM

y0 bro
hit me up asap. on icq : 338847113
or email me : [email protected]

I will hook you up with AMAZING CONTENT for fucking cheap

get you started mate

contact me. waiting for your email / icq.

Wolfy · 08-06-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by adonthenet

y0 bro
hit me up asap. on icq : 338847113
or email me : [email protected]

I will hook you up with AMAZING CONTENT for fucking cheap

get you started mate

contact me. waiting for your email / icq.

you're not on ICQ - I'll email.

DutchTeenCash · 08-06-2006, 01:04 PM

$500 is not gonna make a single surfer happy

I hope thats non exclusive, cause thatll be like 8-10 series times 50 pics then? If you wanna charge a serious amount aff like, like 24.95 or so at least have some more decent aka exclusive content

08-05-2006, 04:56 PM	#1
Wolfy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,574	building my first paysite! Help a brutha out with some tips - how can I make it look like there is more content in the members area, how can I best generate cross sales, WHO should I cross sell to... amateur niche.

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08-05-2006, 05:03 PM	#2
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	1.) Be honest with the tour, it will pay off in the long run. 2.) Forget about cross sales for now, get sales first.

08-05-2006, 05:06 PM	#4
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	worse time to get in to adult find another hobby

08-05-2006, 05:07 PM	#5
Wolfy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,574	I totally appreciate that, but i don't have much fear about getting sales - I have my own traffic and I know how good it is. I was telling one of my models kind of the same thing - she wanted to put her best pics up in the tour and the galleries, but I believe that will only lead to chargebacks. One thing I definately need, though, is more content - and my budget is running THIN. Any suggestions?

08-05-2006, 05:30 PM	#7
Wolfy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,574	I mean, should I give one popup and then redirect to the main page, should I use one of them funky "open directory" looking pages....

08-05-2006, 06:41 PM	#8
Wolfy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,574	I <3 surfers

08-05-2006, 06:55 PM	#11
Wolfy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,574	I figured as much, I spent $500 on content so far and after I put it together I looked at it, like... oh hell, this aint shit!

08-05-2006, 10:46 PM	#19
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Hmm... $500 for content is a VERY LOW amount... You could look for a financial backer to inflate the members area 10 fold. Often you will find people who have money but no drive... Airek runs RageCash which makes a lot of money. He doesn't own it. Someone else does. You might want to look into getting a financial backer and sharing the profit with this person.

08-06-2006, 07:11 AM	#20
Wolfy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,574	Thanks V, good advice.

08-06-2006, 07:12 AM	#21
Wolfy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,574	Thanks V, good advice.

08-06-2006, 11:56 AM	#26
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	y0 bro hit me up asap. on icq : 338847113 or email me : [email protected] I will hook you up with AMAZING CONTENT for fucking cheap get you started mate contact me. waiting for your email / icq.

08-06-2006, 01:04 PM	#28
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	$500 is not gonna make a single surfer happy I hope thats non exclusive, cause thatll be like 8-10 series times 50 pics then? If you wanna charge a serious amount aff like, like 24.95 or so at least have some more decent aka exclusive content __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?