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Wolfy 08-05-2006 04:56 PM

building my first paysite!
 
Help a brutha out with some tips - how can I make it look like there is more content in the members area, how can I best generate cross sales, WHO should I cross sell to... amateur niche.

andrej_NDC 08-05-2006 05:03 PM

1.) Be honest with the tour, it will pay off in the long run.
2.) Forget about cross sales for now, get sales first. :)

godisdead 08-05-2006 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfy
how can I make it look like there is more content in the members area

Have more content in the members area. Or display the content you already have better. Improve your sales pages.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfy
how can I best generate cross sales, WHO should I cross sell to... amateur niche.

Contact other paysites in the amateur niche and ask for cross sale.

You'd first have to make sure that you have a decent conversion rate in general. This will increase your possibility of successfully converting other paysites to joint venture with you.

tony286 08-05-2006 05:06 PM

worse time to get in to adult find another hobby

Wolfy 08-05-2006 05:07 PM

I totally appreciate that, but i don't have much fear about getting sales - I have my own traffic and I know how good it is. I was telling one of my models kind of the same thing - she wanted to put her best pics up in the tour and the galleries, but I believe that will only lead to chargebacks.

One thing I definately need, though, is more content - and my budget is running THIN.

Any suggestions?

Wolfy 08-05-2006 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
worse time to get in to adult find another hobby

haha, your name just gave me another question - what's the best kind of 404 page for a new paysite?

Wolfy 08-05-2006 05:30 PM

I mean, should I give one popup and then redirect to the main page, should I use one of them funky "open directory" looking pages....

Wolfy 08-05-2006 06:41 PM

I <3 surfers :1orglaugh

Lykos 08-05-2006 06:43 PM

good luck with it mate! :thumbsup

Violetta 08-05-2006 06:49 PM

My budget was thin as hell when I started my site(s) over a year ago. Just buy some new content every month when the money comes in. Running and building a paysite costs your shirt. Be aware! :)

Wolfy 08-05-2006 06:55 PM

I figured as much, I spent $500 on content so far and after I put it together I looked at it, like... oh hell, this aint shit!

Kristian 08-05-2006 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
1.) Be honest with the tour, it will pay off in the long run.
2.) Forget about cross sales for now, get sales first. :)


I dont own or run a paysite, but this seems like excellent advice. And Andrej should know, if anyone does.

Wolfy 08-05-2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian
I dont own or run a paysite, but this seems like excellent advice. And Andrej should know, if anyone does.

it does sound good indeed - I've been in sales for many years, and it's always better to underpromise and overdeliver.

Not always possible, but always better :D

GlamourGirlContent 08-05-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfy
I figured as much, I spent $500 on content so far and after I put it together I looked at it, like... oh hell, this aint shit!

Hey Wolfy,
I cannot really help you with your problem and I don't kn ow where you got your content from but if you need some real good content in the future you might keep us in your mind! We can always work a good deal out, for both of us!
Just take a look...

http://www.glamourgirlcontent.com/

Wolfy 08-05-2006 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GlamourGirlContent
Hey Wolfy,
I cannot really help you with your problem and I don't kn ow where you got your content from but if you need some real good content in the future you might keep us in your mind! We can always work a good deal out, for both of us!
Just take a look...

http://www.glamourgirlcontent.com/

thanks buddy - bookmarked.

The Ghost 08-05-2006 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
1.) Be honest with the tour, it will pay off in the long run.
2.) Forget about cross sales for now, get sales first. :)

Agreed. Not being honest in the tour is one of the cardinal sins of having a site. Unless you want chargebacks and a huge amount of added agrevation for no reason.

Since you have your own traffic, the question you really need to consider is if you would truly make more money sending it to your own site. It may seem like a good idea and is, but only under the assumption that you would convert it at the same or higher rate if you sent it to a good sponsor with a similar retention rate.

I'm sure you know that the entire membership price is not profit. It's a gross that is reduced by processing fees, hosting, content, promo material and a hundred other things. I'm on icq if you would like to talk more. Good luck. :)

babymaker 08-05-2006 09:53 PM

good advice Ghost :D

fallenmuffin 08-05-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfy
haha, your name just gave me another question - what's the best kind of 404 page for a new paysite?

Back to the main tour....

V_RocKs 08-05-2006 10:46 PM

Hmm... $500 for content is a VERY LOW amount...

You could look for a financial backer to inflate the members area 10 fold. Often you will find people who have money but no drive... Airek runs RageCash which makes a lot of money. He doesn't own it. Someone else does. You might want to look into getting a financial backer and sharing the profit with this person.

Wolfy 08-06-2006 07:11 AM

Thanks V, good advice.

Wolfy 08-06-2006 07:12 AM

Thanks V, good advice.

H0witzer 08-06-2006 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfy
building my first paysite! .

dont bother.. you will lose all your $ and time

avalanche 08-06-2006 10:57 AM

For $500 you'd be better at free sites, submitting....go buy some partner accounts.

andrej_NDC 08-06-2006 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian
I dont own or run a paysite, but this seems like excellent advice. And Andrej should know, if anyone does.

Hey bud, long time no see. :)

andrej_NDC 08-06-2006 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost
Agreed. Not being honest in the tour is one of the cardinal sins of having a site. Unless you want chargebacks and a huge amount of added agrevation for no reason.

Since you have your own traffic, the question you really need to consider is if you would truly make more money sending it to your own site. It may seem like a good idea and is, but only under the assumption that you would convert it at the same or higher rate if you sent it to a good sponsor with a similar retention rate.

I'm sure you know that the entire membership price is not profit. It's a gross that is reduced by processing fees, hosting, content, promo material and a hundred other things. I'm on icq if you would like to talk more. Good luck. :)

Exactly, a membership of $29.95 can be easily $10 profit. Then its better to promote some good sponsor and get $15-20 from such a membership. But I say risk it, if you work clever, you will make more when you learn how to run the program properly. :)

adonthenet 08-06-2006 11:56 AM

y0 bro
hit me up asap. on icq : 338847113
or email me : [email protected]

I will hook you up with AMAZING CONTENT for fucking cheap :)
get you started mate :)
contact me. waiting for your email / icq.

Wolfy 08-06-2006 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonthenet
y0 bro
hit me up asap. on icq : 338847113
or email me : [email protected]

I will hook you up with AMAZING CONTENT for fucking cheap :)
get you started mate :)
contact me. waiting for your email / icq.

you're not on ICQ - I'll email.

DutchTeenCash 08-06-2006 01:04 PM

$500 is not gonna make a single surfer happy

I hope thats non exclusive, cause thatll be like 8-10 series times 50 pics then? If you wanna charge a serious amount aff like, like 24.95 or so at least have some more decent aka exclusive content


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