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BrettJ · 06-11-2002, 01:21 PM

I got spooged on by a telemarker this morning for a newdomain I bought last week.

I hadn't gotten it up my host yet and somehow the good people at Verio knew that.

They decided to use the whois database to get a hold of my cell number to solicit my ass for hosting.

salsbury · 06-11-2002, 01:27 PM

yep. verio's done that in the past, too.

a bit of history (at least, from my experience) - hurricane electric was the first company to send me internet-related junk mail (postal) harvested from my domain registration. they're still on my shitlist. ;)

JConway · 06-11-2002, 01:31 PM

I used to work at Verio, and that is what they do. They just give us lists of hundreds of newly registered domains and say go get 'em tiger. Although it is sleazy, it works pretty well.

MrBandwidth · 06-11-2002, 01:32 PM

Umm, last time I checked, whois is public...

I got 4 phone calls last night about "winning a sweepstakes" and I got 6 letters from grass cutting companies...see me bitching about it?

jreaka · 06-11-2002, 01:33 PM

It Aint Easy being Sleazy

MrBandwidth · 06-11-2002, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jreaka
It Aint Easy being Sleazy

...But putting 50 clickback pop-ups/unders on an adult site is "good business practice"?

JConway · 06-11-2002, 01:38 PM

I'm w/ you Mr.Bandwidth. No wander the industry has a bad name.

BrettJ · 06-11-2002, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBandwidth
Umm, last time I checked, whois is public...

I got 4 phone calls last night about "winning a sweepstakes" and I got 6 letters from grass cutting companies...see me bitching about it?

nope, it's not.

"By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data only
for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data
to:
a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail,
telephone, or facsimile of mass, unsolicited, commercial advertising or
solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing
customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send
queries or data to the systems of any Registry Operator or ICANN-Accredited
registrar, except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify
existing registrations." Taken from Register.com's WhoIs Policy

FrankyW · 06-11-2002, 01:47 PM

I think they even got sued for improperly operating their 'whois.net' database... which is where the leads were acquired from in a first place.

MrBandwidth · 06-11-2002, 01:48 PM

Regardless...you put your information "out there", get used to it.

jimmyf · 06-11-2002, 01:55 PM

I have 2 or 3 domain's with Verio... Well they were with Best then
Verio bought'em... They have all-ways treated me good... Been very happy with them as a matter of fact... and there up time is great...

BrettJ · 06-11-2002, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBandwidth
Regardless...you put your information "out there", get used to it.

True. This is just my way of getting back at them for hitting me with the call.

This threads draws a little bad attention to verio - and their biz practices and may cost them some future business.

I feel vindicated =)

salsbury · 06-11-2002, 01:59 PM

wow, never thought i'd see a bestie outside of the besties lists. i heard it went downhill after the NTT acquisition (i know most people were finally let go recently). i sure do miss that place, at least pre-Hiway/TLG/NBN. heh heh.

jreaka · 06-11-2002, 02:01 PM

Quote:

...But putting 50 clickback pop-ups/unders on an adult site is "good business practice"?

what are you talking about?

MrBandwidth · 06-11-2002, 02:03 PM

Brett,

Name ONE company that does ZERO cold-calling. Whether it's a letter, phone call, email, fax, clickback pop-up, forced link, whatever, it's happening out there.

To think that you are giving ONE company a bad name my stating you got a "cold call" is rediculous.

FlyingIguana · 06-11-2002, 03:10 PM

i say cold calls are fine in email form if its not some mass mailing of some ad. then its just plain spam.

vegasdude · 06-11-2002, 05:06 PM

I still get spammed with casino cds from one of the first domains i regged.... at that time i was so stupid to be honest and list my phone number address etc.

now I always use funny info when regging domains (but still using real emails!!)

BrettJ · 06-11-2002, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBandwidth
Brett,

Name ONE company that does ZERO cold-calling. Whether it's a letter, phone call, email, fax, clickback pop-up, forced link, whatever, it's happening out there.

To think that you are giving ONE company a bad name my stating you got a "cold call" is rediculous.

You seem to be taking this a bit too personally.

as a business man I can respect all effective forms of marketing. As a consumer though - there are types of messages and mediums that I prefer over others.

Just so happens that I don't respond well to phone calls from strangers. In fact I would go so far as to say that I hate it... and I decide not to put my money into businesses that do it to ME.

Your point that Every company does - is well taken. That's fine. Hell I want them to - as a stockholder - It makes me more money.

ah fuck it - i don't really care - I'm off to eat - (hopefully I don't get a fuck'n telemarker during dinner =)

mike503 · 06-11-2002, 10:21 PM

doesn't verio own one of the bigger "expired domain" list sites? very easy for them to use that data

06-11-2002, 01:21 PM	#1
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	verio telegizz I got spooged on by a telemarker this morning for a newdomain I bought last week. I hadn't gotten it up my host yet and somehow the good people at Verio knew that. They decided to use the whois database to get a hold of my cell number to solicit my ass for hosting.

06-11-2002, 01:27 PM	#2
salsbury Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,070	yep. verio's done that in the past, too. a bit of history (at least, from my experience) - hurricane electric was the first company to send me internet-related junk mail (postal) harvested from my domain registration. they're still on my shitlist. ;) __________________

06-11-2002, 01:55 PM	#11
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	I have 2 or 3 domain's with Verio... Well they were with Best then Verio bought'em... They have all-ways treated me good... Been very happy with them as a matter of fact... and there up time is great... __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

06-11-2002, 01:59 PM	#13
salsbury Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,070	wow, never thought i'd see a bestie outside of the besties lists. i heard it went downhill after the NTT acquisition (i know most people were finally let go recently). i sure do miss that place, at least pre-Hiway/TLG/NBN. heh heh. __________________

06-11-2002, 10:21 PM	#19
mike503 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: oregon. Posts: 2,243	doesn't verio own one of the bigger "expired domain" list sites? very easy for them to use that data __________________ php/mysql guru. hosting, coding, all that jazz.

06-11-2002, 01:31 PM	#3
JConway Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 594	I used to work at Verio, and that is what they do. They just give us lists of hundreds of newly registered domains and say go get 'em tiger. Although it is sleazy, it works pretty well.

06-11-2002, 01:32 PM	#4
MrBandwidth Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 191	Umm, last time I checked, whois is public... I got 4 phone calls last night about "winning a sweepstakes" and I got 6 letters from grass cutting companies...see me bitching about it?

06-11-2002, 01:33 PM	#5
jreaka Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,096	It Aint Easy being Sleazy

06-11-2002, 01:38 PM	#7
JConway Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 594	I'm w/ you Mr.Bandwidth. No wander the industry has a bad name.

06-11-2002, 01:47 PM	#9
FrankyW Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 116	I think they even got sued for improperly operating their 'whois.net' database... which is where the leads were acquired from in a first place.

06-11-2002, 01:48 PM	#10
MrBandwidth Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 191	Regardless...you put your information "out there", get used to it.

06-11-2002, 02:03 PM	#15
MrBandwidth Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 191	Brett, Name ONE company that does ZERO cold-calling. Whether it's a letter, phone call, email, fax, clickback pop-up, forced link, whatever, it's happening out there. To think that you are giving ONE company a bad name my stating you got a "cold call" is rediculous.

06-11-2002, 03:10 PM	#16
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	i say cold calls are fine in email form if its not some mass mailing of some ad. then its just plain spam.

06-11-2002, 05:06 PM	#17
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	I still get spammed with casino cds from one of the first domains i regged.... at that time i was so stupid to be honest and list my phone number address etc. now I always use funny info when regging domains (but still using real emails!!)