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BrettJ 06-11-2002 01:21 PM

verio telegizz
 
I got spooged on by a telemarker this morning for a newdomain I bought last week.

I hadn't gotten it up my host yet and somehow the good people at Verio knew that.

They decided to use the whois database to get a hold of my cell number to solicit my ass for hosting.

salsbury 06-11-2002 01:27 PM

yep. verio's done that in the past, too.

a bit of history (at least, from my experience) - hurricane electric was the first company to send me internet-related junk mail (postal) harvested from my domain registration. they're still on my shitlist. ;)

JConway 06-11-2002 01:31 PM

I used to work at Verio, and that is what they do. They just give us lists of hundreds of newly registered domains and say go get 'em tiger. Although it is sleazy, it works pretty well.

MrBandwidth 06-11-2002 01:32 PM

Umm, last time I checked, whois is public...

I got 4 phone calls last night about "winning a sweepstakes" and I got 6 letters from grass cutting companies...see me bitching about it?

jreaka 06-11-2002 01:33 PM

It Aint Easy being Sleazy

MrBandwidth 06-11-2002 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jreaka
It Aint Easy being Sleazy
...But putting 50 clickback pop-ups/unders on an adult site is "good business practice"?

JConway 06-11-2002 01:38 PM

I'm w/ you Mr.Bandwidth. No wander the industry has a bad name.:1orglaugh

BrettJ 06-11-2002 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBandwidth
Umm, last time I checked, whois is public...

I got 4 phone calls last night about "winning a sweepstakes" and I got 6 letters from grass cutting companies...see me bitching about it?

nope, it's not.

"By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data only
for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data
to:
a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail,
telephone, or facsimile of mass, unsolicited, commercial advertising or
solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing
customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send
queries or data to the systems of any Registry Operator or ICANN-Accredited
registrar, except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify
existing registrations." Taken from Register.com's WhoIs Policy

FrankyW 06-11-2002 01:47 PM

I think they even got sued for improperly operating their 'whois.net' database... which is where the leads were acquired from in a first place.

MrBandwidth 06-11-2002 01:48 PM

Regardless...you put your information "out there", get used to it.

jimmyf 06-11-2002 01:55 PM

I have 2 or 3 domain's with Verio... Well they were with Best then
Verio bought'em... They have all-ways treated me good... Been very happy with them as a matter of fact... and there up time is great...

BrettJ 06-11-2002 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBandwidth
Regardless...you put your information "out there", get used to it.

True. This is just my way of getting back at them for hitting me with the call.

This threads draws a little bad attention to verio - and their biz practices and may cost them some future business.

I feel vindicated =)

salsbury 06-11-2002 01:59 PM

wow, never thought i'd see a bestie outside of the besties lists. i heard it went downhill after the NTT acquisition (i know most people were finally let go recently). i sure do miss that place, at least pre-Hiway/TLG/NBN. heh heh.

jreaka 06-11-2002 02:01 PM

Quote:

...But putting 50 clickback pop-ups/unders on an adult site is "good business practice"?
what are you talking about?

MrBandwidth 06-11-2002 02:03 PM

Brett,

Name ONE company that does ZERO cold-calling. Whether it's a letter, phone call, email, fax, clickback pop-up, forced link, whatever, it's happening out there.

To think that you are giving ONE company a bad name my stating you got a "cold call" is rediculous.

FlyingIguana 06-11-2002 03:10 PM

i say cold calls are fine in email form if its not some mass mailing of some ad. then its just plain spam.

vegasdude 06-11-2002 05:06 PM

I still get spammed with casino cds from one of the first domains i regged.... at that time i was so stupid to be honest and list my phone number address etc.


now I always use funny info when regging domains (but still using real emails!!)

BrettJ 06-11-2002 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBandwidth
Brett,

Name ONE company that does ZERO cold-calling. Whether it's a letter, phone call, email, fax, clickback pop-up, forced link, whatever, it's happening out there.

To think that you are giving ONE company a bad name my stating you got a "cold call" is rediculous.

You seem to be taking this a bit too personally.

as a business man I can respect all effective forms of marketing. As a consumer though - there are types of messages and mediums that I prefer over others.

Just so happens that I don't respond well to phone calls from strangers. In fact I would go so far as to say that I hate it... and I decide not to put my money into businesses that do it to ME.

Your point that Every company does - is well taken. That's fine. Hell I want them to - as a stockholder - It makes me more money.

ah fuck it - i don't really care - I'm off to eat - (hopefully I don't get a fuck'n telemarker during dinner =)

mike503 06-11-2002 10:21 PM

doesn't verio own one of the bigger "expired domain" list sites? very easy for them to use that data :)


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