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Webby 07-22-2006 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
Debby, at the end of the day, it all comes down to you being an American hater. You're so insecure about the decision you made about where you should live that you've constatly have to make up stories proving you did the right thing.

Of course it does - that's the only thing you can feed off and something that is of great relevance to you. Personally - I don't give a shit.

Just pay your taxes and check up Bush's ass for some ray of sunshine - and don't forget to shoot some kids as a quaint national custom :thumbsup

12clicks 07-23-2006 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Of course it does - that's the only thing you can feed off and something that is of great relevance to you. Personally - I don't give a shit.

your countless anti-American posts say different.

Once you stop hating yourself for your life's bad decisions, it will be easier to not hate Americans for their good decisions.

minusonebit 07-23-2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
your countless anti-American posts say different.

Once you stop hating yourself for your life's bad decisions, it will be easier to not hate Americans for their good decisions.

I havent seen many Anti-American posts by him. I have seen posts that dont praise America. So does that make one Anti-American?

Mr. Romance 07-23-2006 08:28 AM

good question....i am American and when I lived there I always had a gun...most of my freinds had 2 or more...no idea..

Mr. Romance

Dirty Dane 07-23-2006 08:31 AM

Because its easier to shoot than talk

12clicks 07-23-2006 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit
I havent seen many Anti-American posts by him. I have seen posts that dont praise America. So does that make one Anti-American?

get lost, halfwit. defending one of your own kind won't work here.

12clicks 07-23-2006 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
Because its easier to shoot than talk

how'd that talking work out for you in WWII?
:1orglaugh

american pervert 07-23-2006 09:18 AM

We have guns because our fore fathers who founded this country knew the importance to citizens to protect themselves from a tyrantical goverment. When only the police have guns, its a police state.

Pandemos 07-23-2006 10:36 AM

Most americans seems to have guns because so many other americans hae guns, a situation of monumental absurdity.

american pervert 07-23-2006 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pandemos
Most americans seems to have guns because so many other americans hae guns, a situation of monumental absurdity.


kinda like how british have horrible teeth b/c so many other british have horrible teeth :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

12clicks 07-23-2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by american pervert
kinda like how british have horrible teeth b/c so many other british have horrible teeth :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

no, I think your's even made more sense than his.:1orglaugh

Z 07-23-2006 12:14 PM

If I thought for one minute that it was possible to have an intelligent conversation about guns in this forum, I'd be more than happy to engage in it. But, I don't.

So I'll simply say that when I lived in the US, I had an extensive gun collection and carried every day, everywhere. Usually I carried a sidearm and a back-up pistol.

In four years in the Marine Corps, all spent as a police officer and criminal investigator, my sidearm saved my life, other lives and prevented crimes more times than I'd care to remember. In 6 years of carrying a personal protection sidearm, my pistol saved my life twice, my girlfriend's once and protected my business once too. I used my weapons for target shooting, competition shooting and hunting too.

If that's not enough justification for you to shut the fuck up about something you have no concept of and simply agree to disagree, then talking to you about it is a waste of time anyway. Go back to whatever entertains you and leave the subject alone.

If you want to know more, I'll be happy to take whoever wants to go shooting at Internext in Florida. Just hit me up and let's go put little holes in paper targets. After that, we'll see where you stand.

pocketkangaroo 07-23-2006 01:22 PM

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita

The US is 24th on that list of murder per capita. Why aren't you calling out the other 23 countries ahead of them?

You also have to take into account that a very small part of our population does the murdering. 1% of our population is responsible for half the murders in the US. 99% of the places in our country are very safe to live and have no problems with murder. We just have very small areas that are bad. Stay out of there and away from those people, and who cares?

Having freedoms have consequences. Our country lets us defend ourselves against our government. Most other countries don't.

Webby 07-23-2006 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
The US is 24th on that list of murder per capita. Why aren't you calling out the other 23 countries ahead of them?

Reason being the thread is about firearms - not murder rates. Murders are committed by more than just firearms.

Mr. Blue 07-23-2006 01:56 PM

Hmm, I have a feeling this is one of those topics that I should waste my time on. It's too easy to stereotype the American gun ownership and too easy to point to statistics that can have a certain skewed aspect to them.

Each state has it's own rules on gun ownership, some states are very easy to possess and own guns, while other states have pretty stringent regulations on the topic. Now you would think that the statistics in the states that have loose gun regulations would be the states that had the most violent crime, but it's just not the case.

Vermont has one of the most liberal gunlaws out of all 50 states. Anyone can carry a concealed weapon, there's very loose regulations on the topic, yet it's one of the safest states to live in with one of the lowest crime rates. Also if you look at the low crime states, they all have fairly relaxed gun laws.

Also, there are countries with very loose gun regulations, Switzerland, Israel, Finland, etc, and they all have relatively low crime rates (there's some other countries in the mix as well, but I can't remember them off the top of my head). So, gun ownership doesn't necessarily mean an increase in violence and jumping to that conclusion is essentially flawed.

As with anything though, stupid people, do stupid things. Every year 40,000 people are killed in car accidents here, 3.2 million are injured...maybe we should ban cars as well? lol.

Why do Americans have weapons? We're a country born from revolution, it's in our Bill of Rights, and part of our history / heritage. When the government for whatever reason can't protect us, we protect ourselves, and it's a tradition more or less that's followed since the revolution, the expansion westward, etc.

Also, there is a thing regarding marksmanship as a sport. Personally I like old weapons, so I do have a recursive bow I like to use for target practice, and I do also throw knives for target practice as well (basically like darts only with a knife, lol).

One final thing, I don't own a gun, so my view on this topic isn't because of a vested self interest.

Sly 07-23-2006 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Reason being the thread is about firearms - not murder rates. Murders are committed by more than just firearms.

Yes, it is. However the most common argument or complaint about firearms is murder. In this very thread, YOU stated many stats and facts regarding guns and their kill factor, if you will. Murder and guns often go hand and hand in these arguments, and you know it

Dirty Dane 07-23-2006 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
how'd that talking work out for you in WWII?
:1orglaugh

What has american carry guns to do with WWII? :helpme

detoxed 07-23-2006 02:16 PM

Its because 100 years ago and as recently as 50 years ago in some parts of the US, a gun was a daily part of life for protecting your farm and hunting for food.

pocketkangaroo 07-23-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Reason being the thread is about firearms - not murder rates. Murders are committed by more than just firearms.

So what is your problem with firearms if it has nothing to do with murder rates?

GoodGuy 07-23-2006 02:39 PM

Why do so many Americans say "because we can"

What do they mean exactly with "because they can" ?

If they referring to "gov and money" that allow them to buy one, then it's a ridicolous excuse...

If the gov allows you to kill illegal inmigrants you don't like, would you do it?

Pretty retard for a 1st world country..

I think USA is stil a 3rd world society, but wiht money...

pocketkangaroo 07-23-2006 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodGuy
Why do so many Americans say "because we can"

What do they mean exactly with "because they can" ?

If they referring to "gov and money" that allow them to buy one, then it's a ridicolous excuse...

If the gov allows you to kill illegal inmigrants you don't like, would you do it?

Pretty retard for a 1st world country..

I think USA is stil a 3rd world society, but wiht money...

Might I ask what you have against firearms? Is it the death rate? Do you propose a ban on guns because it causes murder?

GoodGuy 07-23-2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
Might I ask what you have against firearms? Is it the death rate? Do you propose a ban on guns because it causes murder?

I can't believe you are asking those questions. Seriously.

It's probably hard to understand because we live in totally different cultures.

Here, even Gun toys for children are banned now..

And I think it's normal to associate guns with a bad thing (In a normal and decent country)

Correct me if im wonrg, but I think in USA you grow up with the gun culture in your head, and that's why you consider guns just as if they were like having a car or having a TV. Very sad. :Oh crap

Mr. Blue 07-23-2006 03:20 PM

Can I ask where you're from GoodGuy? I'm just curious :)

Evil1 07-23-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodGuy
Correct me if im wonrg, but I think in USA you grow up with the gun culture in your head, and that's why you consider guns just as if they were like having a car or having a TV. Very sad. :Oh crap

I think ill go out tommorow and snag a .45 just cause all this gun talk got me excited.

Too bad you cant do a fucking thing about it huh?

american pervert 07-23-2006 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodGuy
Why do so many Americans say "because we can"

What do they mean exactly with "because they can" ?

If they referring to "gov and money" that allow them to buy one, then it's a ridicolous excuse...

If the gov allows you to kill illegal inmigrants you don't like, would you do it?

Pretty retard for a 1st world country..

I think USA is stil a 3rd world society, but wiht money...


people have replied with educated answers and you not only do not reply but also use bad grammer and spelling errors. and you have the nerve to call us uneducated. what country are you trolling for?

Cyber Fucker 07-23-2006 03:38 PM

because they are afraid of other americans who have it too... lol

GoodGuy 07-23-2006 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil1
I think ill go out tommorow and snag a .45 just cause all this gun talk got me excited.

Too bad you cant do a fucking thing about it huh?

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5...alscopydb7.jpg

GoodGuy 07-23-2006 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by american pervert
people have replied with educated answers and you not only do not reply but also use bad grammer and spelling errors. and you have the nerve to call us uneducated. what country are you trolling for?

English is not my first language, American Pervert. :1orglaugh

american pervert 07-23-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodGuy
English is not my first language, American Pervert. :1orglaugh


then tell us what is so we can judge your country as are judging ours.

Evil1 07-23-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodGuy

whys the french chick holding an american flag?

woj 07-23-2006 03:44 PM

150....,......

GoodGuy 07-23-2006 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by american pervert
then tell us what is so we can judge your country as are judging ours.

Your country?

My country?

lol... you sound like another americanus nationalistus neandertalensis. :1orglaugh

american pervert 07-23-2006 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodGuy
Your country?

My country?

lol... you sound like another americanus nationalistus neandertalensis. :1orglaugh


you are the one finger pointing at another country.

you sound like another euro baby who is jealous of how much the USA has done in the past 300 years while your country still uses its hand to wipe their asses.


since you don't want to have a real discussion :321GFY

Mr. Blue 07-23-2006 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodGuy
English is not my first language, American Pervert. :1orglaugh

So where are you from? I'm just curious as you are making a lot of generalizations and stereotypical ones about the U.S...so, in all fairness, what Shangri-la do you hail from?

GatorB 07-23-2006 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33
The "for protection from crime" response is more about feeling secure than actually being secure. Criminals don't announce when they're going to rob or kill you so you won't have your gun ready to fire back when you need it.

Nope they sure don't. Also don't forget maybe one day your 16 year old sneaks out then sneaks back in and makes a noise and you shoot first and kill your kid. Real fucking smart. How about you get drunk then get into an argument with your spouse over the Tv remote and you get pissed and kill them. Yep a gun is real fucking handy. In the USA any idiot can own and gun and most people are idiot thus why we have a problem. Funny something as dangerous as a gun anyone can buy without having to provide any proof they are proficient in it's use or maintenance.

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The real reason is for fun (hunting is included in this - it's a fun pastime for people), the appreciation of holding and mastering a weapon as intriguing and deadly,
Yeah let's kill innocent things for FUN! Kill a deer barehanded THEN color me impressed. Hell I see deer just standing at the side of the road all the time. How hard would it be to kill one if I had a gun? They just stand there and stare. Well the really stupid one run out in traffic and get killed by cars. hence why I'm not to impressed by anyone killing such a stupid creature.

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and I suppose a general sense of security from abusive government or invading army.
Yes a bunch of Bubbas and their shotguns against the US military. Hell the whole Southern part of the US tried rebelling 140 years ago and failed. Let's see tanks, planes, nukes, other advanced weapons against Billy Bob and his huntin' rifle, who wins that one? If Bubba and Billy Bob can beat the US military then we are fucked. Anyone that thinks they need a gun so they can protect themselves from an "evil" government has been watching Red Dawn once too many times.

Mr. Blue 07-23-2006 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodGuy
Your country?

My country?

lol... you sound like another americanus nationalistus neandertalensis. :1orglaugh

You can be dismissive and blame "Nationalism" for wanting to know where you're from, but in all honesty you're being completely unfair in your assessment of America, you're making generalizations, and from appearances it looks like you just post on GFY for the sake of some form of hate mongering.

Why do I say that? This is an adult webmaster forum and you have no information regarding the sites you run, no "personal" information, you even refuse to say where you're from. So why are you here? For the pleasant company? LOL

You will always have bold opinions when you hide in the shadows of anonymity...come into the light my friend and don't be ashamed of your country, your websites, or what you do in porn.

I respect people that have strong opinions, but not when they hide in the shadows.

minusonebit 07-23-2006 08:34 PM

We need to re-hash this subject some more... bump for this thread.

Webby 07-23-2006 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit
We need to re-hash this subject some more... bump for this thread.

What was the subject of the thread again?? :winkwink:

12clicks 07-23-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blue
You can be dismissive and blame "Nationalism" for wanting to know where you're from, but in all honesty you're being completely unfair in your assessment of America, you're making generalizations, and from appearances it looks like you just post on GFY for the sake of some form of hate mongering.

Why do I say that? This is an adult webmaster forum and you have no information regarding the sites you run, no "personal" information, you even refuse to say where you're from. So why are you here? For the pleasant company? LOL

You will always have bold opinions when you hide in the shadows of anonymity...come into the light my friend and don't be ashamed of your country, your websites, or what you do in porn.

I respect people that have strong opinions, but not when they hide in the shadows.

you won't get an answer. These guys can only sound suprerior when they're unknown. Once you know them, you realize how clueless they are.

nAtuRaLbEautY 07-23-2006 09:04 PM

Guns can be of use for protection yet it can be dangerous especialy if bad guys use it. :thumbsup


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