You ever wonder if these contest are fixed? - GoFuckYourself.com

TampaToker · 07-06-2006, 06:09 PM

As in there is a predetermined winner form the get go. Been seeing alot of money and prizes being thrown around alot latey.....

fl_prn_str · 07-06-2006, 06:16 PM

I refuse to believe that anything is fixed such as-

Boxing

Wrestling

Presidental election

Professional sports game (Baseball/Basketball)

not to mention anything that has to do with porn........

scarasm has now ended you may return to your regularly scheduled program already in progress.

Violetta · 07-06-2006, 06:20 PM

I bet some of the contests are fixed yes.

scottybuzz · 07-06-2006, 06:22 PM

same here

Scroto · 07-06-2006, 07:46 PM

pretty sure most are

CamsLord · 07-06-2006, 07:47 PM

hopefully not

Doctor Dre · 07-06-2006, 07:47 PM

Yea ... it's always small affiliates winning... kind of dudes you can bribe 5k$ so they shut their mouth instead of giving them the 50k $ car

Spunky · 07-06-2006, 07:48 PM

No,but the bots have them figured out pretty good

Dion · 07-06-2006, 07:48 PM

thats why you have reputable third parties handle the drawings

Head_Hunter · 07-06-2006, 08:49 PM

I think most are thats why i dont even bother

will76 · 07-06-2006, 08:57 PM

This is a mean thread. Thats like telling the noobs there is no such thing as Santa Claus.

I personally dont think they are fixed , I just think they are a dumb way to "advertise".

Give all your money to one idiot who sent you a couple sales, so you can create a "buzz" for your program, and try to attract other idiots who sole purpose is to win a prize, and then not give your top 100 producing affiliates .001% of what you gave joe noob.... brillant business model, and these fools think it works.

the Shemp · 07-06-2006, 08:57 PM

congrats to the winners...

fallenmuffin · 07-06-2006, 08:58 PM

Of course they are fixed. It's a clever way to write off a nice bouns to someone they want to keep on board.

ready lube · 07-06-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Head_Hunter

I think most are thats why i dont even bother

I'm with you from now on

Waste of time.

MikeVega · 07-06-2006, 09:12 PM

seems like the same guys win over and over .. I know that whenever we give something away it almost always goes to some sig whore that posted 50 times on the first 2 pages and when you deliver the prize and asked them if they are going to send traffic they say "well my sites are being redone ..but as soon as i get them up again I'll get a shit load of traffic over" the traffic never comes .. I think from now on when I'm giving something away the winner has to be active .. 1000 unique minimum just to show that they are even in the biz. I think some of these guys are just surfers that make a living on give aways ..

Spunky · 07-06-2006, 09:14 PM

They need a drastic rule change..Surfers and their buddies flock to them for free cash.Hey if I was 14 and found out free loot on the net,wouldn't you do it?

will76 · 07-06-2006, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVega

seems like the same guys win over and over .. I know that whenever we give something away it almost always goes to some sig whore that posted 50 times on the first 2 pages and when you deliver the prize and asked them if they are going to send traffic they say "well my sites are being redone ..but as soon as i get them up again I'll get a shit load of traffic over" the traffic never comes .. I think from now on when I'm giving something away the winner has to be active .. 1000 unique minimum just to show that they are even in the biz. I think some of these guys are just surfers that make a living on give aways ..

Whats worse....

Paying a sig whore $50 for being post #289 in your contest thread, and never having him send 1 sale to your site or, Having Joe Noob send you 2 sales over his lifetime but he wins a 60K vehicle from you.

MikeVega · 07-06-2006, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Whats worse....

Paying a sig whore $50 for being post #289 in your contest thread, and never having him send 1 sale to your site or, Having Joe Noob send you 2 sales over his lifetime but he wins a 60K vehicle from you.

That would piss me off ... I guess the rules of the contests just have to get tighter .. it's not fair to the guys that really work hard to send sales and deserve the new car.

will76 · 07-06-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega

That would piss me off ... I guess the rules of the contests just have to get tighter .. it's not fair to the guys that really work hard to send sales and deserve the new car.

wow. i am impressed.

So sales (income generated) should actually = payouts. vs luck = huge payout.

But it's advertising and it works soo well, and it generates hype for the company, and it's the affiliate companies money so they can do what they want with it, and it is the same as skinning GFY

Incase you haven't seen my other thread about contest, i am being sarcastic.

czarina · 07-06-2006, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVega

seems like the same guys win over and over .. I know that whenever we give something away it almost always goes to some sig whore that posted 50 times on the first 2 pages and when you deliver the prize and asked them if they are going to send traffic they say "well my sites are being redone ..but as soon as i get them up again I'll get a shit load of traffic over" the traffic never comes .. I think from now on when I'm giving something away the winner has to be active .. 1000 unique minimum just to show that they are even in the biz. I think some of these guys are just surfers that make a living on give aways ..

thats a good idea, but for instance. I dont send you that much traffic. But I have made a few sales. so cutting me out would not be very nice.

v2affiliates_John · 07-06-2006, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVega

That would piss me off ... I guess the rules of the contests just have to get tighter .. it's not fair to the guys that really work hard to send sales and deserve the new car.

Bingo the only one who really wins is the program from all the hype and one lucky webmaster

MikeVega · 07-06-2006, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

wow. i am impressed.

So sales (income generated) should actually = payouts. vs luck = huge payout.

But it's advertising and it works soo well, and it generates hype for the company, and it's the affiliate companies money so they can do what they want with it, and it is the same as skinning GFY

Incase you haven't seen my other thread about contest, i am being sarcastic.

I'm not a big fan of giving away shit for the hell of it or to a # post ... it only works at launch when you are trying to get affiliates and need to motivate them to sign up. I prefer having a nice rewards store (we do)and just sending out random gifts to good affiliates. When we launch satancash the give away worked out well because of the exposer and I have to say that even though the guy that won didn't send traffic .. a very good % of the guys that joined did. The program jumped off nice. But that is the only time i would want to give away something blind like that. I'm all about taking care of the guys that take care of me ... that's one of the reasons we do the 75% bonus Fridays.

will76 · 07-06-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega

I'm not a big fan of giving away shit for the hell of it or to a # post ... it only works at launch when you are trying to get affiliates and need to motivate them to sign up. I prefer having a nice rewards store (we do)and just sending out random gifts to good affiliates. When we launch satancash the give away worked out well because of the exposer and I have to say that even though the guy that won didn't send traffic .. a very good % of the guys that joined did. The program jumped off nice. But that is the only time i would want to give away something blind like that. I'm all about taking care of the guys that take care of me ... that's one of the reasons we do the 75% bonus Fridays.

For what is worth i totally agree and you have my respect. I dont see anything wrong with a contest to kick off a program. It's the sites that have affiliates who make them 500 sales a week, and they do a dumb contest and they reward a noob who sent 2 sales for being lucky it defies all business logic and even though in some cases they may give their top guys some perks, it is nothing to what they gave the noob.

I can't believe i had several program owners trying to explain to me that is " advertising" and no different then skinning GFY, lol. What they have is a lack of imagination on how to market their program. they think "advertising" is giving money away to people who make them shit. If they could be a little more innovative they could find a way to generate hype about their program and still reward the people who make them money. Affiliates are not stupid, especially the bigger ones.
Things will change in the next couple years... you will have stand up programs that don't do shit like that and focus hard on the people who make the money, and then they will be the less imaginative ones that are still giving stuff away trying to fight over the noobs who are just looking to get lucky.... my

JD · 07-06-2006, 10:13 PM

I'm kinda up in the air about them being fixed or not, but all I know is that I won a fucking PSP in the IslandDollars contest

http://www.islanddollars.com

Kimo · 07-06-2006, 10:29 PM

some might be rigged, but not all

Antonio · 07-06-2006, 10:35 PM

the big ones - for sure, the smaller ones (iPods, PSPs, couple of hundred of bucks) - don't think so

will76 · 07-06-2006, 10:57 PM

If they rigging them, thats fraud. I am sure they could get in serious trouble if they are caught. serious trouble.

sharp · 07-07-2006, 12:32 AM

some probably are...but the post count ones can't be. dunno

madawgz · 07-07-2006, 01:26 AM

contests arnt fixed, bots make them impossible to win!

Vitasoy · 07-07-2006, 01:51 AM

The bigger prizes.. I wonder that, the smaller prizes probably not.

07-06-2006, 06:09 PM	#1
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	You ever wonder if these contest are fixed? As in there is a predetermined winner form the get go. Been seeing alot of money and prizes being thrown around alot latey.....

07-06-2006, 06:20 PM	#3
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07-06-2006, 07:47 PM	#6
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07-06-2006, 07:48 PM	#8
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07-06-2006, 06:16 PM	#2
fl_prn_str Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,736	I refuse to believe that anything is fixed such as- Boxing Wrestling Presidental election Professional sports game (Baseball/Basketball) not to mention anything that has to do with porn........ scarasm has now ended you may return to your regularly scheduled program already in progress. Last edited by fl_prn_str; 07-06-2006 at 06:17 PM..

07-06-2006, 07:46 PM	#5
Scroto Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,804	pretty sure most are

07-06-2006, 07:48 PM	#9
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07-06-2006, 08:49 PM	#10
Head_Hunter So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 907	I think most are thats why i dont even bother

07-06-2006, 08:57 PM	#11
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	This is a mean thread. Thats like telling the noobs there is no such thing as Santa Claus. I personally dont think they are fixed , I just think they are a dumb way to "advertise". Give all your money to one idiot who sent you a couple sales, so you can create a "buzz" for your program, and try to attract other idiots who sole purpose is to win a prize, and then not give your top 100 producing affiliates .001% of what you gave joe noob.... brillant business model, and these fools think it works. __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue Last edited by will76; 07-06-2006 at 08:59 PM..

07-06-2006, 08:57 PM	#12
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07-06-2006, 08:58 PM	#13
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Of course they are fixed. It's a clever way to write off a nice bouns to someone they want to keep on board.

07-06-2006, 09:12 PM	#15
MikeVega Porntrepreneur Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 12,788	seems like the same guys win over and over .. I know that whenever we give something away it almost always goes to some sig whore that posted 50 times on the first 2 pages and when you deliver the prize and asked them if they are going to send traffic they say "well my sites are being redone ..but as soon as i get them up again I'll get a shit load of traffic over" the traffic never comes .. I think from now on when I'm giving something away the winner has to be active .. 1000 unique minimum just to show that they are even in the biz. I think some of these guys are just surfers that make a living on give aways .. __________________ Mike Vega-ICQ:253868499-AIM:mikeydicevega

07-06-2006, 09:14 PM	#16
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,949	They need a drastic rule change..Surfers and their buddies flock to them for free cash.Hey if I was 14 and found out free loot on the net,wouldn't you do it? __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

07-06-2006, 10:13 PM	#24
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	I'm kinda up in the air about them being fixed or not, but all I know is that I won a fucking PSP in the IslandDollars contest http://www.islanddollars.com

07-06-2006, 10:29 PM	#25
Kimo ... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland ICQ:87038677 Posts: 11,542	some might be rigged, but not all __________________ ...

07-06-2006, 10:35 PM	#26
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	the big ones - for sure, the smaller ones (iPods, PSPs, couple of hundred of bucks) - don't think so

07-06-2006, 10:57 PM	#27
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	If they rigging them, thats fraud. I am sure they could get in serious trouble if they are caught. serious trouble. __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

07-07-2006, 12:32 AM	#28
sharp Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,006	some probably are...but the post count ones can't be. dunno

07-07-2006, 01:26 AM	#29
madawgz 8.8.8.8 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noordermarkt Posts: 30,509	contests arnt fixed, bots make them impossible to win! __________________ TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

07-07-2006, 01:51 AM	#30
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	The bigger prizes.. I wonder that, the smaller prizes probably not. __________________ [email protected]