Are Americans Structured To Fail?

[Greg B]

Consider that before an American leaves their teenage years, if they enter college they're required to go into debt for tens of thousands of dollars. Upon graduation they incur more debt, get married add more debt, have kids add more debt, buy home, add more debt. Add to that the wishy washy job market and lapses in time where health insurace is available. Business taxes and such and so on.

It's like if a guy take one step ahead he's two steps behind.

Is this due to inefficiency or some structured plan to keep you all in tow?

[xlogger]

I dont think so, i already paid off my college loans and car loans.

The business tax, well, if you know how to play around with taxes a little you wont be paying much at all.

[Rochard]

None of this is true, depending on how smart you are.

You can join the military for four years and get some of the benefits for the rest of your life - GI bill and interest free home loans.

I did four years in the Marines, got my education, got my interest free home loan, and by the time I got married I was able to pay cash for it. Since then I've stayed away from credit - no real need for it unless your buying a car or a house.

[scottybuzz]

i hate people getting credit "for that new kitchen or holiday they always wanted"

pfft fucktards

How is this true? I went to college, got a degree and am getting married. My only debt is my house (which is also an asset) and a car which I don't pay much for.

You don't have to follow the trends to be American.

[FunForOne]

Originally Posted by Greg B

Consider that before an American leaves their teenage years, if they enter college they're required to go into debt for tens of thousands of dollars. Upon graduation they incur more debt, get married add more debt, have kids add more debt, buy home, add more debt. Add to that the wishy washy job market and lapses in time where health insurace is available. Business taxes and such and so on.

It's like if a guy take one step ahead he's two steps behind.

Is this due to inefficiency or some structured plan to keep you all in tow?

Its called delayed gratification. If you want something nice, you have to contribute to society and earn it.

Its actually a system that rewards american's far beyond any other system available. What you described is the sole reason immigrants are continuing to come to the country. Now you see why America is the only superpower in the world, in just 230 short years.

Thanks for being 100% wrong and proving you dont understand whats going on around you.

This is a good illustration on how conservatives and liberals think differently.
You see our system as setting up for failure, I see it as setting up for success.

[Egomancer]

Yeah, FunForOne, until you have an accident and can't work for 1 year. And then the house, the car and everything is gone...

Egomancer

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by Egomancer

Yeah, FunForOne, until you have an accident and can't work for 1 year. And then the house, the car and everything is gone...

Egomancer

That doesn't happen to conservatives. They don't get sick either. They're like supermen.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by FunForOne

Its actually a system that rewards american's far beyond any other system available. What you described is the sole reason immigrants are continuing to come to the country. Now you see why America is the only superpower in the world, in just 230 short years.

Thanks for being 100% wrong and proving you dont understand whats going on around you.

This is a good illustration on how conservatives and liberals think differently.
You see our system as setting up for failure, I see it as setting up for success.

DUH???

Amazing the fountain of knowledge that sprews forth - covering every topic from immigration to conservatives and liberals. Just awesome

[Greg B]

I know Webby, I know. With all his right wing rhetoric he failed as usual to notice the topic was formed as a question not a statement.

Any excuse to spout some shit and someone will barge into a thread and try to fuck it up.

[minusonebit]

Not all of us follow the plan prepared for us.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

That doesn't happen to conservatives. They don't get sick either. They're like supermen.

Ya, like Dick Cheney 'Heart ConditionMan' or Ronald Reagan 'The Amazing Alzheimer's Man' or...

[FunForOne]

Originally Posted by Egomancer

Yeah, FunForOne, until you have an accident and can't work for 1 year. And then the house, the car and everything is gone...

Egomancer

work harder, get a savings account, buy disability insurance. Every problem you can throw out, I can answer with delayed gratification. Most american's dont realize the difference between wants and needs. That is the problem.

You want a new big screen television, you want a $50,000 car, you want a $250,000 house. You need transportation, shelter and food.

[FunForOne]

Originally Posted by Greg B

I know Webby, I know. With all his right wing rhetoric he failed as usual to notice the topic was formed as a question not a statement.

Any excuse to spout some shit and someone will barge into a thread and try to fuck it up.

It was a question, I answered it. I made fun of your train of thought that led to you posting the question on a message board. Most people figure that out and move on to more complex issues, not you.


Its not my job to educate you idiots, but I sometimes do it anyway. Not once have you ever thanked me.

[Sexxxy Sites]

Originally Posted by Greg B

Consider that before an American leaves their teenage years, if they enter college they're required to go into debt for tens of thousands of dollars. Upon graduation they incur more debt, get married add more debt, have kids add more debt, buy home, add more debt. Add to that the wishy washy job market and lapses in time where health insurace is available. Business taxes and such and so on.

It's like if a guy take one step ahead he's two steps behind.

Is this due to inefficiency or some structured plan to keep you all in tow?

In answer to the thread title, no. In answer to the question in your post, no. Responsible adults do relitively well in America.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by FunForOne

Its not my job to educate you idiots, but I sometimes do it anyway. Not once have you ever thanked me.

Man.. understandably you are a superior being and a fountain of knowledge on all aspects of life. I hope you don't get a pain in your neck looking down on mere mortals as you attempt to educate.

You got to be joking or insane - your arrogance and flippant bullshit deserves no thanks in any way. Awesome, but funny post!

[butterflybucks]

I need to become more responsible with my investment money!

[Sexxxy Sites]

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites

In answer to the thread title, no. In answer to the question in your post, no. Responsible adults do relitively well in America.

Should be relatively.

[Sexxxy Sites]

Originally Posted by Webby

Man.. understandably you are a superior being and a fountain of knowledge on all aspects of life. I hope you don't get a pain in your neck looking down on mere mortals as you attempt to educate.

You got to be joking or insane - your arrogance and flippant bullshit deserves no thanks in any way. Awesome, but funny post!

It is apparent (from your babbling, lying, BS posts) that he is superior to you.

[Loryn]

Originally Posted by FunForOne

Its called delayed gratification. If you want something nice, you have to contribute to society and earn it.

Its actually a system that rewards american's far beyond any other system available. What you described is the sole reason immigrants are continuing to come to the country. Now you see why America is the only superpower in the world, in just 230 short years.

Thanks for being 100% wrong and proving you dont understand whats going on around you.

This is a good illustration on how conservatives and liberals think differently.
You see our system as setting up for failure, I see it as setting up for success.

This post MADE my 4th of JULY!!!! Thank you so much! I clicked on this thread thinking oh shit here we go again, America sucks America is bad, no one believes what they see, they see what they want to believe and seek out to see failure. You just nailed it right there. Thank you!!!

I was thinking about the 230 years, we are such a baby country compared and everyone says we are going to fail as the ?king of the hills? we haven't been around long enough for that to happen give it another 1000 years or so maybe even longer, but your kids and their kids an their kids and their kids and so on will be able to enjoy the freedom to become a millionaire if they work hard. As long as the socialists don't take over and start taking our money and redistributing it to people who don't want to work hard.

Anyway I want to thank you for a well said post!!!

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites

It is apparent (from your babbling, lying, BS posts) that he is superior to you.

Did I address you??

[Webby]

Dammit Greg - you must have hit on a senstive subject with this thread title

The trolls have arrived to spout shit - but hell, it 4th July - so better give them a break to spew their one-liners of hatred and bullshit

[Rui]

Originally Posted by Rochard

None of this is true, depending on how smart you are.

You can join the military for four years and get some of the benefits for the rest of your life - GI bill and interest free home loans.

I did four years in the Marines, got my education, got my interest free home loan, and by the time I got married I was able to pay cash for it. Since then I've stayed away from credit - no real need for it unless your buying a car or a house.

So this what you have to do over there?