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Old 07-02-2006, 06:28 AM   #1
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CCbill... inside please, and bring your janitor.

You flagged a site of mine that is an extreme anal site. You wanted an image in the header graphics to be changed because the guys hands were on the girls neck.

Now... according to you, it is OK to shove 2 cocks in a girls ass, open an asshole up big enough to stick a bat inside of, shove your feet into girls mouths and have them gag on your cock until they cry... but hands around a neck is a no-no? Are you shitting me?

This is after Paycom flagged the same site for a girl squirting milf out of her ass. MILK!!!! But a 10 guy anal creampie is ok. Unreal. Total dip shits.

I'm not sure if these insane TOS come from visa or from the idiot sweeping your floors but you have shit totally backwards. You will process for sites that have girls vomiting on cocks while the guy forces their head down on the cock and vomit... but if you put those same hands on her neck, it's a TOS violation.

There is no need to even respond. I just wanted to let you know how ridiculous all of this has become.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:29 AM   #2
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They are right all the way, gangbang anal is fine and not extreme, but never use your hands, otherwise you will get blacklisted.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:31 AM   #3
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And by the way, I find it overly disgusting, that someone would use anything besides a cock to make a girl vomit. That should be a standard procedure and it would show that we are all in to keep the girls from eating to much junk food.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:33 AM   #4
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It should also become a standard procedure that you need to show pictures of a new model doing at least double anal before she gets approved for processing, that would also clean up a lot of sites.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:33 AM   #5
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They are right all the way, gangbang anal is fine and not extreme, but never use your hands, otherwise you will get blacklisted.
You missed the point.

How did this industry get to the point where you can have 10 guys violate a girls ass, 2 cocks at a time, all cum inside it while she is dressed like a schoolgirl, then open it up for the world to see deep into her colon... and it is perfectly acceptable... but place your hands around a neck and you have crossed the line.

The last time I asked a normal girl who was not a porn whore, an anal gangbang was extreme.

For you to even say an anal gangbang is not extreme... tells me you are very jaded.
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Old 07-02-2006, 07:20 AM   #6
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Doesn't perfectgonzo also have those milk secnes
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Old 07-02-2006, 07:21 AM   #7
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Implies rape and thats not allowed and in the AUP anyone could see that coming
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Old 07-02-2006, 07:22 AM   #8
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Doesn't perfectgonzo also have those milk secnes
Seems like they have their own mercheant account I think.
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Old 07-02-2006, 07:23 AM   #9
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Seems like they have their own mercheant account I think.
They didn't always have their own merchant account, they used to process through paycom. Maybe a new rule
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Old 07-02-2006, 07:24 AM   #10
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You missed the point.

How did this industry get to the point where you can have 10 guys violate a girls ass, 2 cocks at a time, all cum inside it while she is dressed like a schoolgirl, then open it up for the world to see deep into her colon... and it is perfectly acceptable... but place your hands around a neck and you have crossed the line.

The last time I asked a normal girl who was not a porn whore, an anal gangbang was extreme.

For you to even say an anal gangbang is not extreme... tells me you are very jaded.
Seriously you should not taken my posts for real. The whole processing thing is so seriously fucked up. One hand they claim that girls with teddybears are crossing the line and then you can look at this ask why this site is fine with picture they use: http://www.lilmisskitty.com/KittyTour1.html
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Old 07-02-2006, 07:25 AM   #11
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Implies rape and thats not allowed and in the AUP anyone could see that coming
rough sex now implies rape....interesting....
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Old 07-02-2006, 08:12 AM   #12
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Dwb, we are talking about separate, distinct and unrelated issues. You are most likely referring to images that appear to be of a model getting chocked. We will not process for accounts that containing content such as the aforementioned, models being suffocated with plastic bags, holding a head underwater, etc.

Not only is that against our aup, it is a serious credit card association rule. If you wanted to vent, I understand, if you want to talk about this more, 45471840
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Old 07-02-2006, 08:23 AM   #13
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whether you like it or not, visa is the one that hands down the rules. not the processors. i know rc travels to nyc to meet with visa on a regualr basis and is very up to speed with current and upcoming visa regs...

know ask yourself, if you are a billion + a year processor, are you going to jeopordize your business because you dont agree with visa's interpretation of whats considered too extreme?
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Old 07-02-2006, 08:26 AM   #14
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porn whore? nice way to talk about the models that put food on your table.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:59 PM   #16
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Dwb, we are talking about separate, distinct and unrelated issues. You are most likely referring to images that appear to be of a model getting chocked. We will not process for accounts that containing content such as the aforementioned, models being suffocated with plastic bags, holding a head underwater, etc.
Yes, it is in reference to one photo where a guy is railing this girls ass with a cock bigger than your arm, and he has his hands around her neck as if to choke her.

Now... what stumps me is how this is not ok, but you open her asshole up (which is gonna cause way more pain that light choking) wide enough to drop a baseball into. If you stick your hands into another persons asshole and open it, unnaturally, to the point of almost ripping... and say that is ok, that is pretty fucked up.

Then add 10 guy anal creampies, double and triple anal penetration... all ok. Fuck, I even know of one site you process for where the male model has HIV and is still fucking!!!! Again... ok.

The priorities of Visa and companies such as yours are just twisted. Some thing I totally agree with, but to allow other acts that are much more brutal does not make sense.

And don't even get me started with the head under water pics.... not sure if it was CCbill or Paycom that flagged the same fucking site for a pic where the guy was holding the girls head to the water (NOT UNDER IT) and we had to remove it. What's this business coming to when I can't take a bitch to the pool?
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:02 AM   #17
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know ask yourself, if you are a billion + a year processor, are you going to jeopordize your business because you dont agree with visa's interpretation of whats considered too extreme?
Everyone is missing the point here.

It's not that I refuse to comply, its that there are much more extreme acts that are totally OK than what I'm getting flagged for.
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:12 AM   #18
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Everyone is missing the point here.

It's not that I refuse to comply, its that there are much more extreme acts that are totally OK than what I'm getting flagged for.
Don't worry, we can hear you loud and clear, but there is no way around it and you will also never get an explanation on why one pic is considere extreme and another one is not.
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You missed the point.

How did this industry get to the point where you can have 10 guys violate a girls ass, 2 cocks at a time, all cum inside it while she is dressed like a schoolgirl, then open it up for the world to see deep into her colon... and it is perfectly acceptable... but place your hands around a neck and you have crossed the line.

The last time I asked a normal girl who was not a porn whore, an anal gangbang was extreme.

For you to even say an anal gangbang is not extreme... tells me you are very jaded.
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I can jerkoff to that description. Hook a brother up with a pass!

LOL LOL
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:56 AM   #21
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i agree its a can of worms . . a real grey area
this whole definition of "extreme" seems to be at the root
of many of the recent witchhunt legal actions.
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Old 07-03-2006, 03:53 AM   #22
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Don't forget either... CCBill and Paycom's rules are nearly 100% dictated by what Visa and Mastercard set out. CCBill wants your business and your money, but they can't take something on that Visa or CCBill's acquiring bank won't find acceptable.

I completely agree with your point, and we've run into the same thing... but it does no good to bitch at ccbill, because the byzantine and inconsistent rules are handed down by Visa, not the billing companies.
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