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Paul Markham · 06-29-2006, 11:00 PM

The bastards keep coming back to look at it. I suppose they will all be staying on to see what's coming next month as well.

Maybe I should move to a one update a month and get rid of them and spend more efforts on getting affiliates.

BT · 06-29-2006, 11:02 PM

hahaha no shit

CaptainHowdy · 06-29-2006, 11:06 PM

LOLZ! Why daily updates?? ;(!!

Doctor Dre · 06-29-2006, 11:07 PM

More bandwidth burned

poor you ... ;)

More traffic more problems.

Kimo · 06-30-2006, 12:05 AM

haha, maybe once a week?

Paul Markham · 06-30-2006, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

LOLZ! Why daily updates?? ;(!!

I have no idea.

scottybuzz · 06-30-2006, 04:29 AM

nor do i!

Paul Markham · 06-30-2006, 04:45 AM

Maybe it would be better to give affiliates new content every day so they can put up fressh free content all the time. Interesting idea.

xclusive · 06-30-2006, 04:50 AM

every 3 days would be more than enough.

MarkAF · 06-30-2006, 04:53 AM

or make a tgp proggie that can automatically update when new galleries becomes available ;)

2HousePlague · 06-30-2006, 05:04 AM

Must agree, Paul.

I think a lot of your marketing sense comes from remembering what it was like to be a consumer of porn. I certainly try to remember what it was like. One thing that does stick out in my mind is the sense of being a "collector" of porn. I remember spending whole afternoons trying to track down a specific model, in a specific scene. Or maybe you had a very clear picture in your head, and were looking for the best match -

In both cases, when you find it, there is a special feeling of gratification that makes you want to SAVE something, after you have initially enjoyed it. You want to collect it. Now, of course many collectors satisfy their needs among the oceans of free porn. These oceans are of course fed by yesterday's content. Things go stale, they become less "precious" and the distribution deals that are made resemble Guba --

So, if you are giving your paying customer fresh content at a very frequent rate, you are necessarily cheapening the value of whatever is withing the "member's area" at any given moment.

I wonder what the effects would be of preserving a specific, defined collection of material, striclty within the confines of a pay site, wrapped in a presentation "envelope" that does not allow for downlaod, but DOES allow for SATISFYING "collection building" on the site.

2hp

Michaelious · 06-30-2006, 05:12 AM

Yeah once a week at most

AdultSearchGURU · 06-30-2006, 05:33 AM

Its a double edged sword. There is so much content out on the net. Free content is so readily available most porn surfers can go from one free site to another to get their kicks with out touching their wallet.

Corona · 06-30-2006, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The bastards keep coming back to look at it. I suppose they will all be staying on to see what's coming next month as well.

Indeed.

But I think your point sailed right over the head of at least a couple people in this thread.

goldrush · 06-30-2006, 07:27 AM

Don't give them a damn thing, find out where they live, beat them and rob them. That'll learn 'em for being porn loving freaks.

fallenmuffin · 06-30-2006, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

More traffic more problems.

Biggie was right, yo.

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 07:30 AM

What kind of presentation envelope do you have in mind ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

Must agree, Paul.

I think a lot of your marketing sense comes from remembering what it was like to be a consumer of porn. I certainly try to remember what it was like. One thing that does stick out in my mind is the sense of being a "collector" of porn. I remember spending whole afternoons trying to track down a specific model, in a specific scene. Or maybe you had a very clear picture in your head, and were looking for the best match -

In both cases, when you find it, there is a special feeling of gratification that makes you want to SAVE something, after you have initially enjoyed it. You want to collect it. Now, of course many collectors satisfy their needs among the oceans of free porn. These oceans are of course fed by yesterday's content. Things go stale, they become less "precious" and the distribution deals that are made resemble Guba --

So, if you are giving your paying customer fresh content at a very frequent rate, you are necessarily cheapening the value of whatever is withing the "member's area" at any given moment.

I wonder what the effects would be of preserving a specific, defined collection of material, striclty within the confines of a pay site, wrapped in a presentation "envelope" that does not allow for downlaod, but DOES allow for SATISFYING "collection building" on the site.

2hp

2HousePlague · 06-30-2006, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

What kind of presentation envelope do you have in mind ?

AJAX --

2hp

Paul Markham · 06-30-2006, 10:31 PM

The good thing for us is many people think like an affiliate and put the affiliate first plus think if it ain't exclusive it ain't going to work. So they all go down the same route and all look the same.

For the weekend we put up 3 videos a day to see how it would work, http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour/updates.php not saying you can tell from 12 hours but sign ups were good last night.

From a financial POV it makes total sense. We always said we would put up 10 to 12 pieces a week from our own production, this is the "Exclusive and Themed" section. So by doubling that with new non exclusive content, we are running at a cost of $200/$250 a week more. That's chicken feed. Think of getting 20 more sign ups or re billers a week and it's nothing. Think of keeping one good affiliate sending traffic and it's money well spent.

Look at some of the threads on this board. Companies spending $1,000s to get new affiliates. What do they achieve in terms of KEEPING those affiliates? I'm looking at it from a different angle, putting the member first and when that works the affiliate benefits.

Dagwolf · 06-30-2006, 10:33 PM

You been fucking with my surfers?

Paul Markham · 06-30-2006, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corona

Indeed.

But I think your point sailed right over the head of at least a couple people in this thread.

A lot of people on GFY do not understand IRONY or Sarcasm.

Double L · 06-30-2006, 10:58 PM

Damn rebills...

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2HousePlague CURATOR Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the attic Posts: 14,572	Must agree, Paul. I think a lot of your marketing sense comes from remembering what it was like to be a consumer of porn. I certainly try to remember what it was like. One thing that does stick out in my mind is the sense of being a "collector" of porn. I remember spending whole afternoons trying to track down a specific model, in a specific scene. Or maybe you had a very clear picture in your head, and were looking for the best match - In both cases, when you find it, there is a special feeling of gratification that makes you want to SAVE something, after you have initially enjoyed it. You want to collect it. Now, of course many collectors satisfy their needs among the oceans of free porn. These oceans are of course fed by yesterday's content. Things go stale, they become less "precious" and the distribution deals that are made resemble Guba -- So, if you are giving your paying customer fresh content at a very frequent rate, you are necessarily cheapening the value of whatever is withing the "member's area" at any given moment. I wonder what the effects would be of preserving a specific, defined collection of material, striclty within the confines of a pay site, wrapped in a presentation "envelope" that does not allow for downlaod, but DOES allow for SATISFYING "collection building" on the site. 2hp __________________ tada! Last edited by 2HousePlague; 06-30-2006 at 05:05 AM..

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The good thing for us is many people think like an affiliate and put the affiliate first plus think if it ain't exclusive it ain't going to work. So they all go down the same route and all look the same. For the weekend we put up 3 videos a day to see how it would work, http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour/updates.php not saying you can tell from 12 hours but sign ups were good last night. From a financial POV it makes total sense. We always said we would put up 10 to 12 pieces a week from our own production, this is the "Exclusive and Themed" section. So by doubling that with new non exclusive content, we are running at a cost of $200/$250 a week more. That's chicken feed. Think of getting 20 more sign ups or re billers a week and it's nothing. Think of keeping one good affiliate sending traffic and it's money well spent. Look at some of the threads on this board. Companies spending $1,000s to get new affiliates. What do they achieve in terms of KEEPING those affiliates? I'm looking at it from a different angle, putting the member first and when that works the affiliate benefits. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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