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Old 06-20-2006, 05:20 PM   #1
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The War In Iraq Will Never Stop

US Soldiers up against suicide bombers and blood thirsty maniacs...
This whole situation is UGLY...
and your dreaming if you think that the bloodshed is going to stop

It's like sticking your foot into a giant ant mound and wiggling it every few minutes....

Those ants are going to continue to sting and bite your foot FOREVER
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:21 PM   #2
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There's no war in Irak,

Occupation would be the right term.
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:28 PM   #3
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This am called 'Asymmetrical Guerilla Warfare' and you're right - it won't stop. The US has two options:

1.) Leave
2.) Genocide

The "Iraqi Security" force are basically members of the warring tribes and true insurgents in blue button-down shirts.

Now, our goal in perpetuating the Iran/Iraq war (who was our boy then, btw?) was to create destabilization in the region so no one super-dude controled the crude. Did they want the same thing in Iraq? Probably not, but they got it.

The future? The U.S. is fucked, and probably facing a severe economic downturn.
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:29 PM   #4
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:30 PM   #5
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:30 PM   #6
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You are right, it will never end. The only way you could end this is by changing the culture generationally. This generation will never accept us, so it's time you start working on the next.
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:33 PM   #7
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it's nearly impossible to fight "fairly" in a situation in which the enemy is mixed in with the general civilian population.
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:53 PM   #8
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:54 PM   #9
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Basically.. there is nothing "fair" in conflict - on both sides.

Those who fight what could be described as "unfairly", are using the tools they have - they don't have Apache gunships nor can they launch missles by pressing a button 200 miles away. They fight with the only tools they do have - it has been that way since the dawn of time. We would all do the same, come crunch time.

Who knows, but suspect nothing will change till forces of occupation are removed totally. Even after that, there is a few "domestic issues" to clear up.

There are no winners in this - never will be. No conventional forces have ever "defeated" those engaged in guerilla (or "terrorist") warfare. The people now on the "other side" in the Middle East are the same group/s who convinced Russia to pack up and leave the area - they are used to "invaders".

Suggestions of "changing cultures" is even more absurd now. Incidents viewed have already incited retaliatory action and the longer "incidents" continue, - the more "anti" there will be. It costs far more to change "minds" than has ever been spent on this "war". Anyways, it is not the prerogative of any other nation to change the culture of another - that's just sheer arrogance.
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Old 06-20-2006, 06:07 PM   #10
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ofcourse its never gonna stop, the US just built an Embassy in Baghdad, they even got their own website now

http://iraq.usembassy.gov
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Old 06-20-2006, 06:19 PM   #11
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ofcourse its never gonna stop, the US just built an Embassy in Baghdad, they even got their own website now

http://iraq.usembassy.gov
What a fucking disgrace.

Like we need a goddamned embassy there. Let me guess, its to assist all of the American tourists who flock there every year to sunbathe on the oil and blood soaked sands with thier lost passports.
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Old 06-20-2006, 06:42 PM   #12
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Basically.. there is nothing "fair" in conflict - on both sides.

Those who fight what could be described as "unfairly", are using the tools they have - they don't have Apache gunships nor can they launch missles by pressing a button 200 miles away. They fight with the only tools they do have - it has been that way since the dawn of time. We would all do the same, come crunch time.

Who knows, but suspect nothing will change till forces of occupation are removed totally. Even after that, there is a few "domestic issues" to clear up.

There are no winners in this - never will be. No conventional forces have ever "defeated" those engaged in guerilla (or "terrorist") warfare. The people now on the "other side" in the Middle East are the same group/s who convinced Russia to pack up and leave the area - they are used to "invaders".
We used guerilla warfare to win the American Revolution. We are basically a country founded by terrorists now fighting terrorism
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Old 06-20-2006, 06:44 PM   #13
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those people have been fighting in that part of the world for thousands of years ,maybe the only one to control them is to have a animal like saddam in power.
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Old 06-20-2006, 07:00 PM   #14
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Those who fight what could be described as "unfairly", are using the tools they have - they don't have Apache gunships nor can they launch missles by pressing a button 200 miles away. They fight with the only tools they do have - it has been that way since the dawn of time. We would all do the same, come crunch time.
Ugh, we don't go around blowing up buildings and cutting off people's heads for the mere fact we don't like them. We will drop a 500lb bomb on your ass when you get out of line though.. as should it be... Rock err RUBBLE ON!
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Old 06-20-2006, 07:16 PM   #15
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the war will never stop in iraq till bush gets what he wants...
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Old 06-20-2006, 09:12 PM   #16
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its not going to stop, and its a fucking waste of money...
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Old 06-20-2006, 09:17 PM   #17
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Ugh, we don't go around blowing up buildings and cutting off people's heads for the mere fact we don't like them. We will drop a 500lb bomb on your ass when you get out of line though.. as should it be... Rock err RUBBLE ON!
No..we do go around blowing up buildings and even worse - blowing up plenty innocent people in the process. Bottom line - it's no different, just a change of perspective to make it acceptable and palatable for "us".
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Old 06-20-2006, 09:19 PM   #18
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war is money
Lots of money beeing earned by big corporations ... yeah.

But the country has gained so much debt in the last 8 years...
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Old 06-20-2006, 09:29 PM   #20
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You are right, it will never end. The only way you could end this is by changing the culture generationally. This generation will never accept us, so it's time you start working on the next.
exactly.. but id have to say its pointless to work on the next gen.. and its clearly too long to wait for the 2nd generation after that.. best to just get out give them some kind of structure and let them make what they can out of it.
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Old 06-20-2006, 09:58 PM   #22
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exactly.. but id have to say its pointless to work on the next gen.. and its clearly too long to wait for the 2nd generation after that.. best to just get out give them some kind of structure and let them make what they can out of it.
translation: butal civil war with hard core warlords and gangsters taking control of much of the country (2nd largest oil reserves in the world)
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Old 06-20-2006, 10:21 PM   #23
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Haliburton's stock has tripled since the beginning of the war. It's only cost 2500 US lives and 10's of thousand of those lowly Iraqi's. Why would they stop it now.
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An actual reply in this thread would be like trying to teach algebra in an premature infant care center.
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An actual reply in this thread would be like trying to teach algebra in an premature infant care center.
Another totally meaningless post - you specialize in these or is it a disability from your premature birth?
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You are so brilliant. When will the conservatives just say " we really don't have a fucking clue, and we really don't have an exit strategy.

The only person who has a plan on either side is John Murtha. Here is a decorated veteran, who is a total hawk regardless of his affiliation, and he is the only one coming up with an actual plan.

Stay the course, is not a plan. Every time I hear the cut and run bs from the republicans, I just want to point out, that is what Bush did in Afghanistan.

And let me remind you of current events. They are the ones who attacked us, not Iraq.
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blame dick cheney and donalf rumsfeld
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:33 PM   #29
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blame dick cheney and donalf rumsfeld
Douglas Feith
Paul Wolfowitz
Colin Powell
George Tenet
Condoleeza Rice
Richard Perle
William Kristol

so on so on so on
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:41 PM   #30
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But the country has gained so much debt in the last 8 years...
To help the people who run the show profit well...
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:44 PM   #31
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:51 PM   #32
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it's another veitnam
as the art of war says , use your weakness as your strong point
iraqi army is small ,meaning they can move around faster

war is never fair , i hardly call dropping bombs from 10's of thousands of feet up , a fair fight
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