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Old 06-19-2006, 07:48 PM   #1
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Why Pay For Porn My Friends Say???

I was talking to a few buddies of mine and we got into the subject of mgp's and so forth. They said" Dave, I have so much FREE porn". Im like whatcha mean free? Since you only get clips from movie galleries and not the whole thing unless you pay. They were like "Ya FREE Porn. You know, you go searching for movies clips and just find a hot chick you want to beat off to and beat off". Im like wtf? The clips are like a few seconds long. How can you beat off to them? Hes like, all you do is put the shit on repeat and beat off. I do not need to pay for the whole thing. Whats the point when jerking off doesnt need to take so long. Why would I pay to be a member and have to st through the whole thing with my dick in my hand".

It really got me thinking. Are sales down because most surfers think like this? Id have to say he has a very nice point. Why pay when you can put shit on repeat and get a quick jerk before you daily routine? Also if this is starting to be the trend, whats that say for mgp's sales wise. The traffic is spiking big time. Is that why mgp's are doing so well traffic wise???

Id love peoples thoughts and opinions about this.
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:58 PM   #2
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I have been putting videos on loop since the moment the internet first frigging opened....nothing bet than download, loop, beat off!
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:59 PM   #3
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extreme I love how you say there is no money in porn and then have a link to 215,000 free hosted galleries.

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Only now you became aware that guys jack off to 10 sec clips on repeat?
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Many surfers think this way. If every cumshot from an image = $$$, we'd all be bazillionaires.

But simply put there are guys that would never or almost never pay for porn. Hell, I remember jerking off to the Sears catalog for free. Or maybe it was JcPenny. In any case, thank God there are people that need and want more.
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extreme I love how you say there is no money in porn and then have a link to 215,000 free hosted galleries.
Every heard of sarcasm? Hrmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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Well I never thought about it so thats why it was a bit shocking in terms of how it might affect sales and so forth in the industry internet wise. Thought id ask. I did not know people did that from the beginning of movie times. I never did it or thought about it.
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Every heard of sarcasm? Hrmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Oh really, is that what it was?
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There is loads of free porn thats longer then 10 seconds, you can easily find 5min+ clips. But you also have the free porn password sites which have passwords to basically all of the biggest porn sites and loads of sites like raven riley etc. Really anyone smarter enough to use google properly doesnt need to pay for porn but luckily most people dont.
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good point blazed. Good thing some people search around and let site owners know about which free sites are sharing this info so they can cancel the username.
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Well I never thought about it so thats why it was a bit shocking in terms of how it might affect sales and so forth in the industry internet wise. Thought id ask. I did not know people did that from the beginning of movie times. I never did it or thought about it.
I could have told you that!
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extreme I love how you say there is no money in porn and then have a link to 215,000 free hosted galleries.
Database is pretty outdated, shows 950 for flashcash, they have like 5000+
heh

Guess we know why he might think like that
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ya most databases for the free passes are outdated.
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I could have told you that!
Oh Ya, iv caught you rubbing one out to bbw clips.....God im forgetfull
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I was talking to a few buddies of mine and we got into the subject of mgp's and so forth. They said" Dave, I have so much FREE porn". Im like whatcha mean free? Since you only get clips from movie galleries and not the whole thing unless you pay. They were like "Ya FREE Porn. You know, you go searching for movies clips and just find a hot chick you want to beat off to and beat off". Im like wtf? The clips are like a few seconds long. How can you beat off to them? Hes like, all you do is put the shit on repeat and beat off. I do not need to pay for the whole thing. Whats the point when jerking off doesnt need to take so long. Why would I pay to be a member and have to st through the whole thing with my dick in my hand".

Ask them if they really enjoy jacking off to small 15 second low grade overused clips.

Ask them how much time they spend SEARCHING for a decent clip to jack off too. Maybe I'm picky by 99.99% of the MPG shit isn't even worth jacking too.

Ask them how they like clicking a hot looking gallery only to be sent to another MPG instead of the gallery?

Ask them how they like having the wade through tons of ads before getting to any porn?

Ask them how many times have they had spyware installed on their computer or a virus because they went to the "wrong" site?

Ask them why they pay $5 for meal at McDonald's, yet are to cheap to pay the same $5 so they can get 3 days of HQ porn, no ads, no spyware or virus no redirection and loads of choices. Hell a lot sites let you download stuff without any DRM so you can keep all the shit forever. So they'd have a lot of porn to last them after the 3 days.

I guess if your 13, a crappy 15 second clip beats jacking off to the Sears catalog like you had to do in the old days, but I think a man would prefer something a bit better.
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The thing is, some people like to watch a specific girl or scene done in multiple different characters / positions / outfits.
Some people love to bring themself to where they are just about to cum and do this on multiple movies / scenes etc...
Where as others like your mate(s) like to beat it out in like 20seconds and continue doing what they were doing...
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But simply put there are guys that would never or almost never pay for porn. Hell, I remember jerking off to the Sears catalog for free. Or maybe it was JcPenny.
the sears catalog was my first jerk for sure.
then victorias secret.

then i think i found a playboy or something, but i remember the sears book a little too well.
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Ugh ? Obviously yeah ... I wouldn't pay for porn myself... I like mpg clips better, more variety lol
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Ask them if they really enjoy jacking off to small 15 second low grade overused clips.

Ask them how much time they spend SEARCHING for a decent clip to jack off too. Maybe I'm picky by 99.99% of the MPG shit isn't even worth jacking too.

Ask them how they like clicking a hot looking gallery only to be sent to another MPG instead of the gallery?

Ask them how they like having the wade through tons of ads before getting to any porn?

Ask them how many times have they had spyware installed on their computer or a virus because they went to the "wrong" site?

Ask them why they pay $5 for meal at McDonald's, yet are to cheap to pay the same $5 so they can get 3 days of HQ porn, no ads, no spyware or virus no redirection and loads of choices. Hell a lot sites let you download stuff without any DRM so you can keep all the shit forever. So they'd have a lot of porn to last them after the 3 days.

I guess if your 13, a crappy 15 second clip beats jacking off to the Sears catalog like you had to do in the old days, but I think a man would prefer something a bit better.

ummm too much to ask.
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Ask them why they pay $5 for meal at McDonald's, yet are to cheap to pay the same $5 so they can get 3 days of HQ porn, no ads, no spyware or virus no redirection and loads of choices. Hell a lot sites let you download stuff without any DRM so you can keep all the shit forever. So they'd have a lot of porn to last them after the 3 days.
I don't think it's really about the $5, it's more about the fact that you are actually paying for it with a credit card. There is this uncertainty, this fear in the back of your mind... What if the name of the site appears on the credit card bill? What if later you are trying to find a job, they do a background check on you, and the fact that you purchased porn memberships comes up? What if my wife/girlfriend/employer/parents/etc finds out? Plus the stories of people getting fucked by rebills/crossales/etc spread fast, so average porn user thinks porn sites are nothing but a scam...
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With Gnutella, Bittorrent and the like I don't know why people search at all... but I'm glad they do.
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why do we continue to blow off the obvious problem with the excuse of "there's enough dumb/picky/rich surfers to earn just enough money to offset the ones who just mooch the free stuff"......?

i thought the point of business was to win, not to simply break even...
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I've been telling everyone this same shit for years.. we need to clean it up and censor pink or hardcore..
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This is why dating, Fleshlights and webcam do so well. Throw in toys and other stuff....
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Bittorrent and the like I don't know why people search at all... but I'm glad they do.
I have never used it. Don't know the first thing about it. Of course I heard all these years about "newsgroups" and I've never seen one of those either. When I first got on the net and wanted to find porn I used a search engine.
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if you search one of the big torrent sites, you'll get THOUSANDS of FULL dvds avalible for download! Porn is so fucking free...
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yes or p2p . they are the real culprits
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shhhhhhhhh it must be said to scare away the surfers!
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I don't think it's really about the $5, it's more about the fact that you are actually paying for it with a credit card. There is this uncertainty, this fear in the back of your mind... What if the name of the site appears on the credit card bill? What if later you are trying to find a job, they do a background check on you, and the fact that you purchased porn memberships comes up? What if my wife/girlfriend/employer/parents/etc finds out? Plus the stories of people getting fucked by rebills/crossales/etc spread fast, so average porn user thinks porn sites are nothing but a scam...
Very good point...
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If you look at the previews of, say, Qmov or bustyadventures, I actually prefer those over most full videos. Nice summary of all the action, so you can put like 20 of them in a playlist, put it on shuffle/repeat, and watch.

Yes, I am an adult webmaster who has all the porn he could ever want, yet prefers previews. That's be scary, if you live off of selling porn.
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I don't think it's really about the $5, it's more about the fact that you are actually paying for it with a credit card. There is this uncertainty, this fear in the back of your mind... What if the name of the site appears on the credit card bill? What if later you are trying to find a job, they do a background check on you, and the fact that you purchased porn memberships comes up? What if my wife/girlfriend/employer/parents/etc finds out? Plus the stories of people getting fucked by rebills/crossales/etc spread fast, so average porn user thinks porn sites are nothing but a scam...
good points, people also doesn't want to be
that "dirty old" man paying for porn. They want to go
with the flow with what's accepted in society today. Paying
for it makes them different.

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Why Pay For Porn My Friends Say???
I get asked that a lot these days also.

Usually I give them the analogy of comparing it to Hollywood movies. Why rent DVDs when there's tons of free movies on cable?

As both a producer and occasional consumer - I look at it from both sides. I've purchased memberships to bondage/fetish paysites in the past because I enjoyed the quality material and don't mind supporting the photographer's efforts. Sure, there's plenty of free stuff out there - but when I like a particular photographer's work, I'm willing to splash out a few bucks to see the entire inventory...not just the free samples available.

Same with renting a mainstream DVD. I rent'em because:

1. They're new releases and I'm impatient enough not to wait until they eventually make their way to cable TV years later.

2. I enjoy movies by certain directors (i.e. Tim Burton, David Cronenberg, Ron Howard, Robert Zemeckis, Brian DePalma, Oliver Stone, etc.).

Perhaps being a producer has made me more sensitive to the idea of helping support the creative community to which I belong. I can appreciate the time and effort that goes in to creating something that's entertaining. In that respect, I don't consider myself a typical consumer - which perhaps leaves me a little out of touch of the typical surfer.

Although its difficult to really discuss it all without getting in to generalities, but a large part of the problem is surfers don't generally think logically. They never stop to consider that while they're enjoying all the free stuff that's available, by not paying for it they're only handicapping the producers who's work keeps them supplied with fresh content. Then, without thinking...these same people will turn around and ask, "Why isn't there any really good quality porn out there these days?" - not realizing that THEY are a large part of the equation.

Also, I'm sure there's a great many people out there who mistakenly think the free porn is the same quality as the content tucked in pay member areas, not realizing that many of us downsize and reduce the image quality to conserve bandwidth expense on free promo material.

Just my
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Only now you became aware that guys jack off to 10 sec clips on repeat?


That is so true. I thought everyone knew that. The real argument in favor of paying for porn is the bad quality of free porn and having to search an endless amount of freesites for something you like.
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I agree Davie!

I started this thread about pornotube.com

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post10191292
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i always answer that question with: "Because my rent is due, now give me your credit card you fucking waste of bandwidth."
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we continue with the "quality over quantity" argument.....

i think if we knew how much money we were MISSING OUT ON by giving away so much free porn we'd shit bricks...
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Ask them if they really enjoy jacking off to small 15 second low grade overused clips.

Ask them how much time they spend SEARCHING for a decent clip to jack off too. Maybe I'm picky by 99.99% of the MPG shit isn't even worth jacking too.
go to dansmovies.com, you have at least 3-5 galleries daily that suit your personal preferences unless you're into some strange fetish
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:10 AM   #42
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another thing that kills this industry is scrubbing of valid credit cards

people say its the price we have to pay for secure credit card processing, so you can only believe its really the case

still, i remember people saying here that sometimes they cant even join their own paysites with their credit cards lol
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Old 06-20-2006, 08:06 PM   #43
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very true^. Good point polish.
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:20 AM   #44
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:23 AM   #45
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See SIG............................................... ........thats why you should pay for porn buddy!
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