A little something on George W. Bush's religious beliefs (pic)

[Spud]

Welcome back to the midle ages

[Jakke PNG]

Mr. Bush tortured those people?

[L0rdJuni0r]

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[BoyAlley]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Mr. Bush tortured those people?

No. He just jacked off to the pics........

[Tdog]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Mr. Bush tortured those people?

Those look like soldiers in the pictures and last I check Pres. bush is the commander in chief.

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by Tdog

Those look like soldiers in the pictures and last I check Pres. bush is the commander in chief.

Soldiers aren't people? They're ok to be tortured?

[Spud]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Mr. Bush tortured those people?

You win the dumbest question of the day award

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by Spud

You win the dumbest question of the day award

Whee! I'm a winner!

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Soldiers aren't people? They're ok to be tortured?

I think he ment that the commander in chief (Bush) is in control of the soldiers who're doing the torturing, I don't think he ment the tortured ones.

[BluewireAngie]

Originally Posted by Spud

You win the dumbest question of the day award

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

I think he ment that the commander in chief (Bush) is in control of the soldiers who're doing the torturing, I don't think he ment the tortured ones.

ah, still... the commander in chief is responsible for the actions of his soldiers.

[Tdog]

Originally Posted by StuartD

ah, still... the commander in chief is responsible for the actions of his soldiers.

Should he get a free pass then?

Has he fired anyone over it? NO, he gives out more promotions.

[AmateurFlix]

one picture of some type of devices not being used

a bunch of pictures of naked people indoors. boohoo

a prisoner with underwear on his head. how terrible. LOL

a bunch of naked people posed in humiliating positions. humiliating? of course. torture? LOL

a man standing on a box wearing a hood who was in no real danger.

some girl pointing at a guy's cock. if that's torture almost everyone in this industry is in trouble. except for the fact that they had the courtesy to place hoods over the 'victims' head, so that they aren't personally identifiable. how terrible

the only photo depicting any type of physical harm having been done shows a man with a leg wound which has been bandaged. what it doesn't show is whether that wound was inflicted in battle or after his capture.

[juve20]

don't get me wrong, he is a prick but it wasn't his fault that soldiers tortured prisoners!

cheers
tony

[Donny]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

one picture of some type of devices not being used

a bunch of pictures of naked people indoors. boohoo

a prisoner with underwear on his head. how terrible. LOL

a bunch of naked people posed in humiliating positions. humiliating? of course. torture? LOL

a man standing on a box wearing a hood who was in no real danger.

some girl pointing at a guy's cock. if that's torture almost everyone in this industry is in trouble. except for the fact that they had the courtesy to place hoods over the 'victims' head, so that they aren't personally identifiable. how terrible

the only photo depicting any type of physical harm having been done shows a man with a leg wound which has been bandaged. what it doesn't show is whether that wound was inflicted in battle or after his capture.

Exactly! I'm no George Bush fan but it's ridiculous to use the word "torture" for anything in that pic. Find something else.

[Pure Evil]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

one picture of some type of devices not being used

a bunch of pictures of naked people indoors. boohoo

a prisoner with underwear on his head. how terrible. LOL

a bunch of naked people posed in humiliating positions. humiliating? of course. torture? LOL

a man standing on a box wearing a hood who was in no real danger.

some girl pointing at a guy's cock. if that's torture almost everyone in this industry is in trouble. except for the fact that they had the courtesy to place hoods over the 'victims' head, so that they aren't personally identifiable. how terrible

the only photo depicting any type of physical harm having been done shows a man with a leg wound which has been bandaged. what it doesn't show is whether that wound was inflicted in battle or after his capture.

Chuuuuuuuuuch

[Spud]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

one picture of some type of devices not being used

a bunch of pictures of naked people indoors. boohoo

a prisoner with underwear on his head. how terrible. LOL

a bunch of naked people posed in humiliating positions. humiliating? of course. torture? LOL

a man standing on a box wearing a hood who was in no real danger.

some girl pointing at a guy's cock. if that's torture almost everyone in this industry is in trouble. except for the fact that they had the courtesy to place hoods over the 'victims' head, so that they aren't personally identifiable. how terrible

the only photo depicting any type of physical harm having been done shows a man with a leg wound which has been bandaged. what it doesn't show is whether that wound was inflicted in battle or after his capture.

Originally Posted by juve20

Exactly! I'm no George Bush fan but it's ridiculous to use the word "torture" for anything in that pic. Find something else.

seems to me, that some of you have no clue what torture is. You also seem to think that after these pictures were taken, these EVILDOERS got to put their close back on. You are also assuming that they are guilty of something.

Bringing a clue to the clueless is hard work but I think you guys have at least one brain cell a each, maybe you can get together and rub them together and realize..

[mardigras]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Whee! I'm a winner!

Congrats to all the winners

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by Donny

Exactly! I'm no George Bush fan but it's ridiculous to use the word "torture" for anything in that pic. Find something else.

Agreed.

Bring'em around to our Kastle studio. We'll show'em what REAL torture is.

[Spud]

Here's some links to help you realise that thing holding your ears apart is lacking...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_deprivation
http://www.counterpunch.org/mccoy05292004.html
Enjoy

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Spud

seems to me, that some of you have no clue what torture is. You also seem to think that after these pictures were taken, these EVILDOERS got to put their close back on. You are also assuming that they are guilty of something.

Bringing a clue to the clueless is hard work but I think you guys have at least one brain cell a each, maybe you can get together and rub them together and realize..

College hazings are way worse than that. Fuck things that go on at a webmaster convention are more torture than whats going on in those pictures.. Torture pffft.

[Spud]

posting something like this on gfy is like teaching pigs to drink with a straw. But hey, I thought you guys would like a mix with your porn and sig whoring

[BiggleJones]

Wow...I feel like Im in a timewarp from last year. Nice Post!




...homo

[Spud]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

College hazings are way worse than that. Fuck things that go on at a webmaster convention are more torture than whats going on in those pictures.. Torture pffft.

You must be right. I mean all this cream puff stuff gets a listing in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_prisoner_abuse when College hazing gets http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...e+hazing&go=Go but to be fare, CBS did talk about it http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/...in179106.shtml You should really let someone know that those pictures are not torture, people can get so confused when the media gets off on the wrong track

[edgeprod]

Snicker.

[AmateurFlix]

Originally Posted by Spud

seems to me, that some of you have no clue what torture is.

go talk to someone who fought against Japan in WWII and ask them what torture is. or in Korea. or in Vietnam. fuck for that matter at any BDSM club on an average night is probably worse than what's pictured here.

You also seem to think that after these pictures were taken, these EVILDOERS got to put their close back on.

oh no, the horror, they might not have gotten their clothes back on right away!!!

[madawgz]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

No. He just jacked off to the pics........

i never knew he was into that kinda shit

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Mr. Bush tortured those people?

No of coruse not. And by the same logic Saddam and Hitler never tortured or killed anyone either.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

one picture of some type of devices not being used

a bunch of pictures of naked people indoors. boohoo

a prisoner with underwear on his head. how terrible. LOL

a bunch of naked people posed in humiliating positions. humiliating? of course. torture? LOL

a man standing on a box wearing a hood who was in no real danger.

some girl pointing at a guy's cock. if that's torture almost everyone in this industry is in trouble. except for the fact that they had the courtesy to place hoods over the 'victims' head, so that they aren't personally identifiable. how terrible

the only photo depicting any type of physical harm having been done shows a man with a leg wound which has been bandaged. what it doesn't show is whether that wound was inflicted in battle or after his capture.

Ok ther a pic of one guy being forced to suck another guy's cock. No that's aint torture. I mean to you that's probally heaven but for most guys that's torture.

[AmateurFlix]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Ok ther a pic of one guy being forced to suck another guy's cock. No that's aint torture. I mean to you that's probally heaven but for most guys that's torture.

unless the one guy's mouth is located in his forehead, or the other one has a very long cock, there's not any penetration going on there. just humiliation.

nice of you to be looking out for the gayness though

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

one picture of some type of devices not being used

a bunch of pictures of naked people indoors. boohoo

a prisoner with underwear on his head. how terrible. LOL

a bunch of naked people posed in humiliating positions. humiliating? of course. torture? LOL

a man standing on a box wearing a hood who was in no real danger.

some girl pointing at a guy's cock. if that's torture almost everyone in this industry is in trouble. except for the fact that they had the courtesy to place hoods over the 'victims' head, so that they aren't personally identifiable. how terrible

the only photo depicting any type of physical harm having been done shows a man with a leg wound which has been bandaged. what it doesn't show is whether that wound was inflicted in battle or after his capture.

You don't know that people have been beaten to death by our troops? Had florescent light bulbs shoved up their asses? That's not torture to you? I wish people would learn to read before they learn to watch TV and post on GFY. Read the comments from the senators who saw all the information. "We're talking about rape and murder". Stop taking Bill O'Reilly seriously. He's a sociopath.

You're a sick fuck to defend the most shameful actions even carried out in my country's name. If this is the way you'd want yourself or your children to be treated if captured by the enemy, you have serious mental problems.

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by juve20

don't get me wrong, he is a prick but it wasn't his fault that soldiers tortured prisoners!

cheers
tony

Pay attention, of course it's the fault of his administration. They're in charge of the army. They set the conditions for this to happen. Rumsfeld personally approved several forms of torture and Bush's attorney general decided that the geneva conventions do not apply to his administration. The torture by US troops right now is systematic, not a few rouge soldiers as our media would like us to believe. It's policy. The only thing that upset Rumsfeld about this was that troops had cameras there to take these "unbelievable photographs".

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by GatorB

No of coruse not. And by the same logic Saddam and Hitler never tortured or killed anyone either.

ding ding ding

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

unless the one guy's mouth is located in his forehead, or the other one has a very long cock, there's not any penetration going on there. just humiliation.

nice of you to be looking out for the gayness though

Oh so if you were a prison having you head just near another guys cock would be ok with you? You wouldn't have an issue with that? Well Of course YOU wouldn't but I'm talking about non-fags.

[Linkster]

This story (although old) tells it very well and unbiased - exactly why the US (although they are a signee to the UNs torture ban) can do this and get away with it - your congressmen and women signed the agreement with a caveat that allows the US to do a little more than everyone else

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/041...n,53381,1.html

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

oh no, the horror, they might not have gotten their clothes back on right away!!!

HAHAHAHA ... I sometimes wonder if they really believe half this shit they cray about here.

[AmateurFlix]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

You don't know that people have been beaten to death by our troops? Had florescent light bulbs shoved up their asses? That's not torture to you?

the items you mentioned above, of course, are.

the photos posted in this thread clearly are not.

underwear being worn on one's head?
you are honestly trying to call that torture?

[AmateurFlix]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Oh so if you were a prison having you head just near another guys cock would be ok with you? You wouldn't have an issue with that?

genius, the purpose is to extract information from the prisoners without harming them. of course it's an exceptionally unpleasant situation, that is the idea.

do you think they would betray their country without some type of prompting?

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

the items you mentioned above, of course, are.

the photos posted in this thread clearly are not.

underwear being worn on one's head?
you are honestly trying to call that torture?

Yes if someone locked me up and forced me to wear someone else's dirty underwear over my face and simulate sex acts with other men I would consider myself being tourtured. What would you call it? Saturday night? And this is just the begining of what these men faced. These are the pictures the government let us see to make it seem not too bad. It makes me sick to my stomach that this was done in my name funded with my money.

Imagine replacing those arabs with American soldier's that you know personally, and the guards with Taliban. If you'd still be laughing I honestly think you must, actually, have mental problems.

[directfiesta]

It's all OK... It is in the name of

FREEDOM

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

Yes if someone locked me up and forced me to wear someone else's dirty underwear over my face and simulate sex acts with other men I would consider myself being tourtured.

Good thing they're all innocent!

[AmateurFlix]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

Yes if someone locked me up and forced me to wear someone else's dirty underwear over my face and simulate sex acts with other men I would consider myself being tourtured. What would you call it?

If I were in that situation I would call myself exceptionally fucking lucky that my captors were only trying to use harmless means of humiliation to get me to talk.

I would be grateful that I wasn't being cut apart, subjected to near drownings etc as in WWII in the pacific theater.

I would be grateful that I wasn't being starved to death in a concentration camp. I would be grateful that I didn't have to wonder if my skin was going to be turned into a lampshade if I died.

I would be grateful that I didn't have to endure anything such as people were subjected to when caught in the Korean War.

I would be grateful that I wasn't going to spend the next several years of my life in a tiny bamboo cage too small to stand up or lie down in, such as in Vietnam.

I would be glad that I was being fed decently.

If I were a spiritual man I would be glad that I was provided with the basics to worship with such as my holy book, even if it was desecrated once in a while for effect.

And I would find a pair of underwear on my head revolting and disgusting. But nothing to worry about very much.

Unless I was ignorant of the above. Then I would probably think it was just the worst thing that could possibly happen in the world.

[Linkster]

Since the thread was about religious beliefs - heres what he stated in 2004 before the elections while talking with Abbas during Palestinian visits:
quoted by Haaretz(The Israeli newspaper was provided transcripts from the talks): "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them, and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me, I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."

I guess the (here we go again) separation of church and state is alive and well

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Good thing they're all innocent!

That's stupid and so are you. How do you want OUR soldiers to be treated? They would be treated badly for sure but ANY excuse to make it worse on them is not good. So why give them some?

Innocnece has nothing to do with nothing. A guy steals a car goes to prison. Does than means he DESERVES to get anal raped every day for the 5 years he's in there? No. That was not part of his punishment.

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Good thing they're all innocent!

What does that mean? None of them have been proven guilty, so they are innocent. However even if they were guilty of a crime that does not make tourture acceptable. Do you understand the law at all? Or are you like a 14 year old who watches Fox and thinks he's got everything figured out?

[Mr. Soul]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

If I were in that situation I would call myself exceptionally fucking lucky that my captors were only trying to use harmless means of humiliation to get me to talk.

I would be grateful that I wasn't being cut apart, subjected to near drownings etc as in WWII in the pacific theater.

I would be grateful that I wasn't being starved to death in a concentration camp. I would be grateful that I didn't have to wonder if my skin was going to be turned into a lampshade if I died.

I would be grateful that I didn't have to endure anything such as people were subjected to when caught in the Korean War.

I would be grateful that I wasn't going to spend the next several years of my life in a tiny bamboo cage too small to stand up or lie down in, such as in Vietnam.

I would be glad that I was being fed decently.

If I were a spiritual man I would be glad that I was provided with the basics to worship with such as my holy book, even if it was desecrated once in a while for effect.

And I would find a pair of underwear on my head revolting and disgusting. But nothing to worry about very much.

Unless I was ignorant of the above. Then I would probably think it was just the worst thing that could possibly happen in the world.

So basically, your rational is that this is not the worst thing that war criminals have ever done, so it's acceptable? I'm trying to understand your ideas here but it's not easy. Keep in mind many of these people experienced much worse that just underwear on their heads, including rape and murder, as proven by statements made by US senators. What exactly are you defending and why?

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by GatorB

How do you want OUR soldiers to be treated?

If our soldiers start using carbombs to kill innocents, and engage in terrorism, then it's a different story. Ask me then.

They would be treated badly for sure but ANY excuse to make it worse on them is not good. So why give them some?

Actually, what negatively impacts our troops is thinking like yours, threads like yours, and media stories by people like you. You and people like you are responsible for many U.S. deaths, by emboldening the enemy.

I don't even know why you post about stupid shit -- just to get pats on the back from fellow idiots? The "normal" people are laughing at you, and you don't seem to see it.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

What does that mean? None of them have been proven guilty, so they are innocent. However even if they were guilty of a crime that does not make tourture acceptable. Do you understand the law at all? Or are you like a 14 year old who watches Fox and thinks he's got everything figured out?

You're babbling.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Actually, what negatively impacts our troops is thinking like yours, threads like yours, and media stories by people like you. You and people like you are responsible for many U.S. deaths, by emboldening the enemy.

Fuck you asshole. Don't you dare say I negatively affect our troops. It's called the 1st admendment. And my grandfather fought on the beaches of Normandy in WWII so you can be an asshole on the internet and insult me. You're welcome. Now I hope you die and I mean that.

[AmateurFlix]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

So basically, your rational is that this is not the worst thing that war criminals have ever done, so it's acceptable?

putting underwear on their heads isn't a war crime. it's juvenile behaviour that may have gotten valuable information from the enemy without causing them any real harm. quit trying to be dramatic.

Keep in mind many of these people experienced much worse that just underwear on their heads, including rape and murder

but that's not what these photos are about, are they? these photos ARE about underwear on the head and they show nothing more.

however everytime someone shows this college frat party gone awry they try to claim it's the same as mutilating and torturing people, when that is something much worse than the poor soldiers depicted here deserve to be associated with.

if someone wishes to address that issue then they should be showing pictures of such activities, not attempting to confuse it with these pranks