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Old 06-06-2006, 06:14 AM   #51
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:30 AM   #53
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Republicans generally support lower taxes across the board, which means they tend to favor lower spending on most government programs.

1, Bush has decreased taxes mostly for those who have significant assets, interest and dividend income while increasing spending to record levels. Not very republican and not supported by most conservatives.

The Republican Party honors individual property rights and promotes the shifting of power to local communities and away from centralized government.

Bush has increased Federal power added to the size of the Federal government. Not very conservative or republican.

The Republican Party opposes strong gun control legislation and supports the individual's right to bear arms.

Yes, and has destroyed more wetlands and forest so you ahve no place to hunt with those guns.

Republicans generally push for strong enforcement and tough laws against drug traffic and juvenile crime.

Yes and we have the highest incareration rate in the word. Most for victimless drug crimes. Legalize and tax some of those drugs and solve a lot of problems.

The Republican Party promotes a strong national defense.

Yes and ignored all advice on terrorism until 9/11

The Republican platform is pro-life, while Democrats tend to support a pro-choice position.

You will find this issue divides both parties

In summary if you believe in what you say you should believe GW bush a traitor and liar!

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I will repeat a line from the Clinton Campaign for those of you out of diapers. " Are you better off today than you were six years ago?"

Instead of a talking about blow jobs in the White House we have
1. Wars in two countries and a third in the wings.
2. Higher interest rates, higher inflation, higher fuel prices
3. The the dollar is worth about 60% of what is was against other currencies
4. Indivdual freedoms are being nibbled away
5. The national debt is growing
6. There are fewer jobs that pay more than minimum wage
7. For the first time in history the government wants to add a constitutional amendment reducing human rights (anti gay marriage) whats next, no interracial marriage?

I have not had my coffee yet but I suspect many of you can add to this list of the good things Bush has brought to America.
how silly.
I always have to laugh at how people point to clinton as how things should be done.
Imagine what this country would look like if Gore would have won in 2000.
we'd be taxing our way out of the stock market crash and still negotiating with afghanistan while saddam continued to rebuild his power with the billions he earned in oil for food scam.

oh, and I don't know what you do probono but I hope its design and not law. giving clinton a pass for lying under oath is magically ok as long as its done by a Dem, eh?
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:34 AM   #55
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how silly.
I always have to laugh at how people point to clinton as how things should be done.
Imagine what this country would look like if Gore would have won in 2000.
we'd be taxing our way out of the stock market crash and still negotiating with afghanistan while saddam continued to rebuild his power with the billions he earned in oil for food scam.

oh, and I don't know what you do probono but I hope its design and not law. giving clinton a pass for lying under oath is magically ok as long as its done by a Dem, eh?

My degree is in Law and you did not respond to a single issue I stated.
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:36 AM   #56
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how silly.
I always have to laugh at how people point to clinton as how things should be done.
Imagine what this country would look like if Gore would have won in 2000.
we'd be taxing our way out of the stock market crash and still negotiating with afghanistan while saddam continued to rebuild his power with the billions he earned in oil for food scam.

oh, and I don't know what you do probono but I hope its design and not law. giving clinton a pass for lying under oath is magically ok as long as its done by a Dem, eh?
and one silly factoid about Al Gore, if he had not been the champion for funding the Internet we would likely not have this forum to post in. Al Gore did not invent the Internet but he made sure it had seed capital.
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"We respect the individual conscience of every American on the painful issue of abortion, but believe as a matter of law that this decision should be left to a woman, her conscience, her doctor, and her God. But abortion should not only be safe and legal, it should be rare. That's why I helped to establish and support a national effort to reduce out-of-wedlock teen pregnancy. And that is why we must promote adoption."

"We are fighting terrorism on all fronts with a three-prong strategy. First, we are working to rally a world coalition with zero tolerance for terrorism. Just this month I signed a law imposing harsh sanctions on foreign companies that invest in key sectors of the Iranian and Libyan economies. As long as Iran trains, supports, and protects terrorists, as long as Libya refuses to give up the people who blew up Pan Am 103, they will pay a price from the United States.

Second, we must give law enforcement the tools they need to take the fight to terrorists. We need new laws to crack down on money laundering and to prosecute and punish those who commit violent acts against American citizens abroad; to add chemical markers or taggants to gunpowder used in bombs so we can track the bomb-makers; to extend the same power police now have against organized crime to save lives by tapping all the phones that terrorists use. Terrorists are as big a threat to our future, perhaps bigger, than organized crime. Why should we have two different standards for a common threat to the safety of America and our children?

We need, in short, the laws that Congress refused to pass. And I ask them again: Please, as an American, not a partisan matter, pass these laws now.

Third, we will improve airport and air travel security. I have asked the Vice President to establish a commission and report back to me on ways to do this. But now we will install the most sophisticated bomb-detection equipment in all our major airports. We will search every airplane flying to or from America from another nation -- every flight, every cargo hold, every cabin, every time."


Too bad the Republicans controlled Congress back then too, and wouldnt support the wiretapping laws to catch suspected terrorists, or improve airport security. Pretty sad when a president has to beg congress to stop being partisan babies and pass some laws to protect America.

Also, I dont see where a woman could find fault with the sentiments expressed on abortion. (wedge issue, pulled out near election time to polarize people as if one particular party should decide what you do with your body anyway blah blah blah falls on deaf ears.) carry on.
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My degree is in Law and you did not respond to a single issue I stated.
you're kidding, right?

9/11, internet bubble bursting. to anyone with a brain, those are the responses you need when people talk about the rosey clinton years.
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and one silly factoid about Al Gore, if he had not been the champion for funding the Internet we would likely not have this forum to post in. Al Gore did not invent the Internet but he made sure it had seed capital.
since you have access to these silly factoids, how about giving us a link so we can all applaud him?
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Vote for the Libertarian Party so we can get this country back to a Constitutional Republic like it started out.
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its part of who we are as americans. You can't understand it because its as mystical as our ability to always succeed.
I'd argue with you about "always" succeeding, but point taken.

I know enough about US history to understand the gun obsession, but damn if you could just see what it's like to live in a place where every home doesn't have a magnum, uzi or rocket launcher and somehow we survive. The ghetto people haven't risen up and taken over and the number of gun-related deaths is tiny compared to yours (and we still have very few home invasions - it's exceedingly rare).

But hey, it's your right so ... you reap what you sow.
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But this will never happen.

In the last Gubenetorial Election I was out 10 HOURS a day on the weekends campaigning for my Governor of the state of Maryland. If I believe in something I will fight for it. But no, until they have a POPULAR election where the PEOPLE are counted, one by one and there is NO Electoral College, I will not take it too seriously. I have voted in EVERY election (primary and Presidential) since I was 18 so I do my part.

Sorry for the misspellings, it is pretty late here.
i can guarentee that the govenor of Maryland wouldn't want you campaigning for them if they knew what you did.
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i can guarentee that the govenor of Maryland wouldn't want you campaigning for them if they knew what you did.
Oh Bob loves me. Met him. He knows what I do.

Ok I didnt call him Bob but I did meet him and he does know what I do.

Great guy.

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I'd argue with you about "always" succeeding, but point taken.

I know enough about US history to understand the gun obsession, but damn if you could just see what it's like to live in a place where every home doesn't have a magnum, uzi or rocket launcher and somehow we survive. The ghetto people haven't risen up and taken over and the number of gun-related deaths is tiny compared to yours (and we still have very few home invasions - it's exceedingly rare).

But hey, it's your right so ... you reap what you sow.
But you havent lived until you have taken a 44 to a pumpkin!

**insert evil laugh here**
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And come onnnn... how hot is this?

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I'd argue with you about "always" succeeding, but point taken.

I know enough about US history to understand the gun obsession, but damn if you could just see what it's like to live in a place where every home doesn't have a magnum, uzi or rocket launcher and somehow we survive. The ghetto people haven't risen up and taken over and the number of gun-related deaths is tiny compared to yours (and we still have very few home invasions - it's exceedingly rare).

But hey, it's your right so ... you reap what you sow.
Here in America, uzis and rocket launchers are illegal and we have a clear understanding what Magnum means.
Besides, most gun deaths in America are ghetto on ghetto violence. I'm not willing to give up my right of gun ownership to keep the criminals from killing each other.

besides that, most Americans have that, home/homeland defense notion that should we ever be attacked, we'll rise up against any foe.
you can't do that with just your dick in your hand.
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Republicans generally support lower taxes across the board, which means they tend to favor lower spending on most government programs.
I'm glad Republicans favor lower government spending. Can you imagine how much money the Bush administration would have spent if they didn't practice fiscal conservatism? Slick Willie was getting blowjobs and running the government with a budget surplus.

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The Republican Party honors individual property rights and promotes the shifting of power to local communities and away from centralized government.
Thank God that the Republicans don't want a centralized government. Can you imagine how far up our ass the FBI and CIA would be if they didn't?

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I shudder to think what would have happened if we had put a lunatic leftist traitor like John Kerry in office... I would rather put a trained chimp in office (insert Bush = chimp joke here) than those fucking scumbag traitors.
Yeah, that lunatic traitor John Kerry served in a war he did not support instead of hiding in the National Guard at home like he could have. Can you imagine a scumbag like that running our government?
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He never does ... that is why he is 12Shits....
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to anyone with a brain
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He never does ... that is why he is 12Shits....
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Some people are talking sense here. Some are... not. We will each of us decide for ourselves who is who... but talking politics on a business board is just crazy. It's bad for business. There are plenty of political blogs for this sort of thing. Most give a forum for opinions that won't fuck up your business by offending affiliates with opposing views. Finally, you'll never convince anyone of anything here (or elsehwere online, IMHO).
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Reasons I am a Republican.

Abortion is murder
I believe in the 2nd amendment
I believe in public hangings. Put the express lane in!

This is why I would never vote for a Democrat.

Me likes Amy's thinking. Though I do like Bush, and no I dont regret in the least voting for him twice.
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I actually didnt vote. Couldnt vote for a Democrat but couldnt vote for Bush. So I reserved my right to NOT vote.
You are part of the problem.
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You are part of the problem.
Bleh ... and you are being redundant.

I am not part of the problem It isnt like I was being lazy and not voting.
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I'm glad Republicans favor lower government spending. Can you imagine how much money the Bush administration would have spent if they didn't practice fiscal conservatism? Slick Willie was getting blowjobs and running the government with a budget surplus.



Thank God that the Republicans don't want a centralized government. Can you imagine how far up our ass the FBI and CIA would be if they didn't?



Yeah, that lunatic traitor John Kerry served in a war he did not support instead of hiding in the National Guard at home like he could have. Can you imagine a scumbag like that running our government?

Amy is a confirmed idiot when it comes to politics.
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how silly.
I always have to laugh at how people point to clinton as how things should be done.
Imagine what this country would look like if Gore would have won in 2000.
we'd be taxing our way out of the stock market crash and still negotiating with afghanistan while saddam continued to rebuild his power with the billions he earned in oil for food scam.

oh, and I don't know what you do probono but I hope its design and not law. giving clinton a pass for lying under oath is magically ok as long as its done by a Dem, eh?
Probono, don't waste your breath, 12clicks is not now, nor has he ever been, smart enough to respond with facts. He responds with insults.

Case in point, he takes the first line of your post, which wasn't even pertinent to the content of the rest of your post, and uses it to ignore the pertinent points.

Sorry 12clicks, don't have time to play with you today, only had enough time to laugh at your total lack of knowledge.
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9/11 happened because Bush was asleep at the wheel. Or drunk. Or praying. Or the Saudis told him to shut the fuck up and take it.

Republicans are busy centralizing power under one Alfred E. Neumann figurehead right now, and he's doing a smashing job isn't he? Love these unnecessary wars, terrorist attacks, gas prices, warrantless spying. A real freedom-lover, this guy.

It's ok to kill fully grown people Amy, but not a collection of cells? Nice.

How the FUCK did you people ever manage to seize power in this country?

oh yeah... Diebold.
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Amy is a confirmed idiot when it comes to politics.
And you are a complete idiot for making that statement.
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It's ok to kill fully grown people Amy, but not a collection of cells? Nice.
I never told you my stand on that. You never asked. You just ASSumed.
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since you have access to these silly factoids, how about giving us a link so we can all applaud him?
It's just this hard to look it up: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ternet+funding

You really ARE a brick wall Ronny!
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I never told you my stand on that. You never asked. You just ASSumed.
ok I can see why you're a republican. In one of your very first posts you said no abortion, but yes to public hangings.

My GOD I wouldn't want to live in your world.
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And you are a complete idiot for making that statement.

I reserve my right to call you a, "Republican idiot with no clue".

Hopefully, you will see the light one day.

I hope you do not support the new 2257 laws or do you?
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Done with this thread.

I have much better things to do than discuss politics on this board.

SatanCash just launched!

Yay!!!
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Done with this thread.

I have much better things to do than discuss politics on this board.

SatanCash just launched!

Yay!!!
I'm sure your fellow republican hypocritical bible-thumping culture warriors support your satan loving porno lifestyle

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Done with this thread.

I have much better things to do than discuss politics on this board.

SatanCash just launched!

Yay!!!
The only nice site is yours the rest are cookie cutters.

Good luck.
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Abortion is murder
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This is why I would never vote for a Democrat.

You have a porn site... you are a Democrat by default.. if not, then you are just an...
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Old 06-06-2006, 12:00 PM   #87
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well, all i can say is my business has thrived in the midst of a war..
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Old 06-06-2006, 01:10 PM   #88
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I didnt vote for anyone, that way i wouldnt be disappointed in my results see cause now im not sorry for myslef for voting for that shrub fuck
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Old 06-06-2006, 01:11 PM   #89
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haha its easy to spot the trolls now. No sane person could defend Bush at this point.

Seriously, can nobody remember the 90's? Whether you're a republican, democrat, whatever, if somebody asked you 6 years ago how you wanted our country to progress, would this be what you'd imagined?
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Old 06-06-2006, 01:25 PM   #90
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I actually didnt vote. Couldnt vote for a Democrat but couldnt vote for Bush. So I reserved my right to NOT vote.
Good choice
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Old 06-06-2006, 01:34 PM   #91
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haha its easy to spot the trolls now. No sane person could defend Bush at this point.

Seriously, can nobody remember the 90's? Whether you're a republican, democrat, whatever, if somebody asked you 6 years ago how you wanted our country to progress, would this be what you'd imagined?

This is the world Amy and 12clicks want! I hope to see it turn and bite them in the ass!

Wait till they run out of volunteer cannon fodder and draft them or their children and send them to bumfuck to fight the good battle for Exxon Mobil.

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Old 06-06-2006, 02:15 PM   #92
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I voted for Bush and I still would over that asshat Gore. It wasn't a matter of voting for the right guy, it was voting for the lesser of two evils.
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:17 PM   #93
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Yeah, Gore with his fancy schmancy intelligence and executive experience and deep resume, and that stuck-up war hero Kerry. Fuck them.

Obviously that lifetime loser and rich daddy's boy GHWB III is the choice for a REAL MAN like you.
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:18 PM   #94
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I actually didnt vote. Couldnt vote for a Democrat but couldnt vote for Bush. So I reserved my right to NOT vote.
That was real smart. People like you are the ones who gave us the idiot. And there were more than two canidates, too. Why not vote for one of them and against the two morons?
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I voted for Bush and I still would over that asshat Gore. It wasn't a matter of voting for the right guy, it was voting for the lesser of two evils.
How could Gore have been worse than Bush? Unless your motives are abortion, tax cuts, or guns, there is no reason to have voted for Bush
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Probono, don't waste your breath, 12clicks is not now, nor has he ever been, smart enough to respond with facts. He responds with insults.
where do these children come from?
JMM, anytime you want to debate facts, let me know. Otherwise stay on the porch.

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Case in point, he takes the first line of your post, which wasn't even pertinent to the content of the rest of your post, and uses it to ignore the pertinent points.
yeah, you'd like to ignore the bullshit mixed in with the suedo-facts, eh son?
it doesn make him seem smarter amongst the rabble but not many others.

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Sorry 12clicks, don't have time to play with you today, only had enough time to laugh at your total lack of knowledge.
yeah, blame your empty head on no time
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How could Gore have been worse than Bush? Unless your motives are abortion, tax cuts, or guns, there is no reason to have voted for Bush
once you have money, taxes will become important to you.
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This is the world Amy and 12clicks want! I hope to see it turn and bite them in the ass!

Wait till they run out of volunteer cannon fodder and draft them or their children and send them to bumfuck to fight the good battle for Exxon Mobil.
ahahahaha, another "its all about oil" warrior.
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once you have money, taxes will become important to you.
Perhaps in the world of 12shits - we don't all live like you and have the baggage of paying taxes.
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Perhaps in the world of 12shits - we don't all live like you and have the baggage of paying taxes.
hahahaha, exactly.
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