Importance of a domain name to a paysite? - GoFuckYourself.com

12clicks · 05-29-2006, 09:19 AM

so, we're chatting about domain names and how to use them effectively for paysites and we're wondering...........

do you go with anal.bustermonkey.com, lesbian.bustermonkey.com etc. running everything through one domain,

pick out entirely different but in this day and age, overly long domains like blondlesbianlaplickers.com, giantanalstretchingmonsters.com etc. or

go with something like mypornlesbians.com, mypornanal.com etc.

whats the best way to go with multiple niches and domains?

05-29-2006, 09:26 AM

I guess it depends
I see what you mean id use a new domain for each niche rather than a subdomain

Chris · 05-29-2006, 09:27 AM

netpondcash for example use

anal.uncovered.com
boobs.uncovered.com
orwahtever site they are doing

if you have a GOOD base .com then a whatever.gooddomain.com would be cool to build your "brand"

05-29-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

netpondcash for example use

anal.uncovered.com
boobs.uncovered.com
orwahtever site they are doing

if you have a GOOD base .com then a whatever.gooddomain.com would be cool to build your "brand"

i agree there good for branding

BVF · 05-29-2006, 09:35 AM

Once the site is branded, it's very important

Dagwolf · 05-29-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Once the site is branded, it's very important

Once the site is branded, it's already on a domain.

Chris · 05-29-2006, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Once the site is branded, it's already on a domain.

I think what he is talking about
say for example
your domain

www.allchubby.com
say in the next year you brand that mother fucker real well

instead of buying newhotbbwmodel.com
you could do newhotbbwmodel.allchubby.com and the bbw peeps would know the allchubby brand

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 09:44 AM

no ideas even

Manowar · 05-29-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Once the site is branded, it's very important

12clicks · 05-29-2006, 10:29 AM

but what about the draw backs of having everything in one domain?
say you have a domain issue, blackhole type issue, etc. it effects your whole business instead of just one niche, no?

madawgz · 05-29-2006, 10:51 AM

it would have to be a great domain to start with but its a good idea

xclusive · 05-29-2006, 11:01 AM

I would never run things through 1 domain these days, You get blacklisted on google or any of the major search engines you're fucked a lot more than if things are spread out.

vvq · 05-29-2006, 11:15 AM

you just gotta be creative. you can still come up with short, brandable domain names for any niche.

WiredGuy · 05-29-2006, 11:25 AM

Getting good typeins for affiliate use doesn't seem worth it to me, but if you're gonna make a brand behind it, it can lead to some great (free) type-in traffic.
WG

baddog · 05-29-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

but what about the draw backs of having everything in one domain?
say you have a domain issue, blackhole type issue, etc. it effects your whole business instead of just one niche, no?

I would use a different domain name for each site.

BVF · 05-29-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I would use a different domain name for each site.

Yes..If they're paysites or freesites/tgp's with different niches, different domains are a must...However, each one should still be branded.

Branding means a LOT for a paysite. It's how I've survived as a one man amateur operation in an ever more competitive marketplace...Without branding and other long term techniques that I have employed, I would have been swallowed up long ago.

kilotoons · 05-29-2006, 11:44 AM

Yes, I would suggest using a new domain for each site as well. Especially if they are unique content.

bdld · 05-29-2006, 11:47 AM

the way TCG does it is good, different domains, some of them long, but each gets SE searches and can have a 'following'.

baddog · 05-29-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Yes..If they're paysites or freesites/tgp's with different niches, different domains are a must...However, each one should still be branded.

Branding means a LOT for a paysite. It's how I've survived as a one man amateur operation in an ever more competitive marketplace...Without branding and other long term techniques that I have employed, I would have been swallowed up long ago.

I don't think there is any argument about the effectiveness of branding, however, you don't need subdomains to accomplish that.

We do it with names like GotWebHost, GotAdTracker, etc. Our upcoming project will have about 240 sites all having a common phrase in the domain name that will easily identify it as belonging to the same network for the surfers.

12clicks · 05-29-2006, 12:02 PM

ok, if you go the different domain for each site route, do you use whatever domain is available or do you try to group them?

analbangbang.com, blondlesbianlaplickers.com VS meluvanal.com meluvlesbians.com

baddog · 05-29-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

ok, if you go the different domain for each site route, do you use whatever domain is available or do you try to group them?

analbangbang.com, blondlesbianlaplickers.com VS meluvanal.com meluvlesbians.com

meluvanal.com meluvlesbians.com makes it obvious that it is part of the meluv netweork

12clicks · 05-29-2006, 12:07 PM

yeah baddog, that was my position. however, someone I respect had other thoughts.

baddog · 05-29-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

yeah baddog, that was my position. however, someone I respect had other thoughts.

Then he clearly hasn't seen the value of branding, or thought you were being literal with your choice of examples (meluvanal.com meluvlesbians.com)

baddog · 05-29-2006, 12:21 PM

Is blondlesbianlaplickers.com even available?

Brujah · 05-29-2006, 12:39 PM

I like the use of one great domain like Netpond does with Uncovered.com and ARS does with Smut.com, and obvious mainstream sites like Google.com and AOL.com do with good subdomain titles.

John69 · 05-29-2006, 01:03 PM

go buy some domains that have been around for sale.

leedsfan · 05-29-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

someone I respect had other thoughts.

i would have thought the importance of splitting domains for traffic, SEO and avoiding SE blacklisting was self-evident.

12clicks · 05-29-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by leedsfan

i would have thought the importance of splitting domains for traffic, SEO and avoiding SE blacklisting was self-evident.

there are other considerations (as mentioned above) so I don't think its as cut and dry as it would at first seem

Theo · 05-29-2006, 03:50 PM

subdomains are usually used from sponsors due to billing restrictions and not as an option.

iTEAM · 05-29-2006, 03:54 PM

Use different domains, always better.

DutchTeenCash · 05-29-2006, 03:56 PM

im cool with a lotta long names as long as theyre not too hard to spell

anallydescendinghousewives.com wouldnt be my choice so to say

SleazyDream · 05-29-2006, 03:58 PM

i'd use something unrealted to porn - something silly like rawlikesushi or the like

05-29-2006, 04:00 PM

some good points being raised

European Lee · 05-29-2006, 04:13 PM

The domain means very little when it comes to paysites.

As Sleazy mentioned above, RawLike Sushi isnt a niche, on the gay side of things, BadPuppy, Randy Blue arent niches, its the branding that works for the sites and the content, not the domain name.

That being said however, there is a lot to be said for a nice 'memorable' domain name to use specific to a niche and, despite first thoughts, there are a lot of reasonably short 2 word, un-hyphenated domains available that are also pretty good from a branding standpoint.

It totally depends on what you want to do, would you like your affiliates (if you have any) to do all the branding work for you or, are you going to brand the site/s yourself?

One method is a lot easier and more cost-effective to use than the other.

I personally like using the 1 domain per site approach, not only because it allows me to brand individual sites but, because it gives me a wider scope of options when it comes to 'in-house' sales and traffic.

Regards,

Lee

12clicks · 05-29-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i'd use something unrealted to porn - something silly like rawlikesushi or the like

its been done.

by better.

12clicks · 05-29-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

The domain means very little when it comes to paysites.

As Sleazy mentioned above, RawLike Sushi isnt a niche, on the gay side of things, BadPuppy, Randy Blue arent niches, its the branding that works for the sites and the content, not the domain name.

That being said however, there is a lot to be said for a nice 'memorable' domain name to use specific to a niche and, despite first thoughts, there are a lot of reasonably short 2 word, un-hyphenated domains available that are also pretty good from a branding standpoint.

It totally depends on what you want to do, would you like your affiliates (if you have any) to do all the branding work for you or, are you going to brand the site/s yourself?

One method is a lot easier and more cost-effective to use than the other.

I personally like using the 1 domain per site approach, not only because it allows me to brand individual sites but, because it gives me a wider scope of options when it comes to 'in-house' sales and traffic.

Regards,

Lee

good points Lee

SilverTab · 05-29-2006, 06:44 PM

Might sound stupid, but from a surfer point of view...its less tempting to join lesbian.someporncompany.com than lesbiansiteblah.com ... The surfer will think that it's not a site on it's own, but just a segment of a bigger site, and therefor that he will get less...

just my

though, but im sure it would influence how the surfer view the site...

as for meluvlesbian.com, meluvasian.com etc.. VS. a random domain for everysite...I guess it's just a matter of wheter you want to put more effort into branding the company name, or the just that single site itself... they both have advantages...for ex: Im pretty sure a lot of surfers would trust Bangbrosworldwide.com since they know that bangbus.com is quality etc...(just using it as an example)...

SgtStrider · 05-29-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Once the site is branded, it's already on a domain.

also once you get it, you have to promote the hell out of it

MasterSEO · 05-29-2006, 07:54 PM

catchy and easy to remember have advantage

Paul · 06-04-2006, 05:11 AM

Or you could do like bangbros have done and have different sites on different domains but when you watermark all the content, have it branding a hub website e.g. bangbros.com so all the typin traffic goes to the hub while also creating a strong brand

This way it can work out cost effective with your expenses for domains, for all your paysites you won't need to spent a lot on short domains because you invest in 1 good easy to remember domain which you will brand on all your content.

Like I said bangbros are a great example, just check out their sites and what they have done

05-29-2006, 09:19 AM	#1
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,787	Importance of a domain name to a paysite? so, we're chatting about domain names and how to use them effectively for paysites and we're wondering........... do you go with anal.bustermonkey.com, lesbian.bustermonkey.com etc. running everything through one domain, pick out entirely different but in this day and age, overly long domains like blondlesbianlaplickers.com, giantanalstretchingmonsters.com etc. or go with something like mypornlesbians.com, mypornanal.com etc. whats the best way to go with multiple niches and domains? __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,787	but what about the draw backs of having everything in one domain? say you have a domain issue, blackhole type issue, etc. it effects your whole business instead of just one niche, no? __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

05-29-2006, 09:26 AM	#2
Altwebdesign Guest Posts: n/a	I guess it depends I see what you mean id use a new domain for each niche rather than a subdomain

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bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	the way TCG does it is good, different domains, some of them long, but each gets SE searches and can have a 'following'.

05-29-2006, 12:02 PM	#20
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,787	ok, if you go the different domain for each site route, do you use whatever domain is available or do you try to group them? analbangbang.com, blondlesbianlaplickers.com VS meluvanal.com meluvlesbians.com __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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Altwebdesign Guest Posts: n/a	some good points being raised

05-29-2006, 04:13 PM	#34
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	The domain means very little when it comes to paysites. As Sleazy mentioned above, RawLike Sushi isnt a niche, on the gay side of things, BadPuppy, Randy Blue arent niches, its the branding that works for the sites and the content, not the domain name. That being said however, there is a lot to be said for a nice 'memorable' domain name to use specific to a niche and, despite first thoughts, there are a lot of reasonably short 2 word, un-hyphenated domains available that are also pretty good from a branding standpoint. It totally depends on what you want to do, would you like your affiliates (if you have any) to do all the branding work for you or, are you going to brand the site/s yourself? One method is a lot easier and more cost-effective to use than the other. I personally like using the 1 domain per site approach, not only because it allows me to brand individual sites but, because it gives me a wider scope of options when it comes to 'in-house' sales and traffic. Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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06-04-2006, 05:11 AM	#40
Paul Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,637	Or you could do like bangbros have done and have different sites on different domains but when you watermark all the content, have it branding a hub website e.g. bangbros.com so all the typin traffic goes to the hub while also creating a strong brand This way it can work out cost effective with your expenses for domains, for all your paysites you won't need to spent a lot on short domains because you invest in 1 good easy to remember domain which you will brand on all your content. Like I said bangbros are a great example, just check out their sites and what they have done