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12clicks 05-29-2006 09:19 AM

Importance of a domain name to a paysite?
 
so, we're chatting about domain names and how to use them effectively for paysites and we're wondering...........

do you go with anal.bustermonkey.com, lesbian.bustermonkey.com etc. running everything through one domain,

pick out entirely different but in this day and age, overly long domains like blondlesbianlaplickers.com, giantanalstretchingmonsters.com etc. or

go with something like mypornlesbians.com, mypornanal.com etc.

whats the best way to go with multiple niches and domains?

Altwebdesign 05-29-2006 09:26 AM

I guess it depends
I see what you mean id use a new domain for each niche rather than a subdomain

Chris 05-29-2006 09:27 AM

netpondcash for example use

anal.uncovered.com
boobs.uncovered.com
orwahtever site they are doing

if you have a GOOD base .com then a whatever.gooddomain.com would be cool to build your "brand"

Altwebdesign 05-29-2006 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris
netpondcash for example use

anal.uncovered.com
boobs.uncovered.com
orwahtever site they are doing

if you have a GOOD base .com then a whatever.gooddomain.com would be cool to build your "brand"

i agree there good for branding

BVF 05-29-2006 09:35 AM

Once the site is branded, it's very important

Dagwolf 05-29-2006 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
Once the site is branded, it's very important

:helpme :error
Once the site is branded, it's already on a domain.

Chris 05-29-2006 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf
:helpme :error
Once the site is branded, it's already on a domain.

I think what he is talking about
say for example
your domain

www.allchubby.com
say in the next year you brand that mother fucker real well

instead of buying newhotbbwmodel.com
you could do newhotbbwmodel.allchubby.com and the bbw peeps would know the allchubby brand :)

E$_manager 05-29-2006 09:44 AM

no ideas even

Manowar 05-29-2006 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
Once the site is branded, it's very important

:thumbsup

12clicks 05-29-2006 10:29 AM

but what about the draw backs of having everything in one domain?
say you have a domain issue, blackhole type issue, etc. it effects your whole business instead of just one niche, no?

madawgz 05-29-2006 10:51 AM

it would have to be a great domain to start with but its a good idea

xclusive 05-29-2006 11:01 AM

I would never run things through 1 domain these days, You get blacklisted on google or any of the major search engines you're fucked a lot more than if things are spread out.

vvq 05-29-2006 11:15 AM

you just gotta be creative. you can still come up with short, brandable domain names for any niche.

WiredGuy 05-29-2006 11:25 AM

Getting good typeins for affiliate use doesn't seem worth it to me, but if you're gonna make a brand behind it, it can lead to some great (free) type-in traffic.
WG

baddog 05-29-2006 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
but what about the draw backs of having everything in one domain?
say you have a domain issue, blackhole type issue, etc. it effects your whole business instead of just one niche, no?


I would use a different domain name for each site.

BVF 05-29-2006 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
I would use a different domain name for each site.

Yes..If they're paysites or freesites/tgp's with different niches, different domains are a must...However, each one should still be branded.

Branding means a LOT for a paysite. It's how I've survived as a one man amateur operation in an ever more competitive marketplace...Without branding and other long term techniques that I have employed, I would have been swallowed up long ago.

kilotoons 05-29-2006 11:44 AM

Yes, I would suggest using a new domain for each site as well. Especially if they are unique content.

bdld 05-29-2006 11:47 AM

the way TCG does it is good, different domains, some of them long, but each gets SE searches and can have a 'following'.

baddog 05-29-2006 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
Yes..If they're paysites or freesites/tgp's with different niches, different domains are a must...However, each one should still be branded.

Branding means a LOT for a paysite. It's how I've survived as a one man amateur operation in an ever more competitive marketplace...Without branding and other long term techniques that I have employed, I would have been swallowed up long ago.


I don't think there is any argument about the effectiveness of branding, however, you don't need subdomains to accomplish that.

We do it with names like GotWebHost, GotAdTracker, etc. Our upcoming project will have about 240 sites all having a common phrase in the domain name that will easily identify it as belonging to the same network for the surfers.

12clicks 05-29-2006 12:02 PM

ok, if you go the different domain for each site route, do you use whatever domain is available or do you try to group them?

analbangbang.com, blondlesbianlaplickers.com VS meluvanal.com meluvlesbians.com

baddog 05-29-2006 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
ok, if you go the different domain for each site route, do you use whatever domain is available or do you try to group them?

analbangbang.com, blondlesbianlaplickers.com VS meluvanal.com meluvlesbians.com

meluvanal.com meluvlesbians.com makes it obvious that it is part of the meluv netweork :2 cents:

12clicks 05-29-2006 12:07 PM

yeah baddog, that was my position. however, someone I respect had other thoughts.:winkwink:

baddog 05-29-2006 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
yeah baddog, that was my position. however, someone I respect had other thoughts.:winkwink:


Then he clearly hasn't seen the value of branding, or thought you were being literal with your choice of examples (meluvanal.com meluvlesbians.com)

baddog 05-29-2006 12:21 PM

Is blondlesbianlaplickers.com even available?

Brujah 05-29-2006 12:39 PM

I like the use of one great domain like Netpond does with Uncovered.com and ARS does with Smut.com, and obvious mainstream sites like Google.com and AOL.com do with good subdomain titles.

John69 05-29-2006 01:03 PM

go buy some domains that have been around for sale.

leedsfan 05-29-2006 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
someone I respect had other thoughts.:winkwink:

i would have thought the importance of splitting domains for traffic, SEO and avoiding SE blacklisting was self-evident.

12clicks 05-29-2006 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leedsfan
i would have thought the importance of splitting domains for traffic, SEO and avoiding SE blacklisting was self-evident.

there are other considerations (as mentioned above) so I don't think its as cut and dry as it would at first seem

Theo 05-29-2006 03:50 PM

subdomains are usually used from sponsors due to billing restrictions and not as an option.

iTEAM 05-29-2006 03:54 PM

Use different domains, always better.

DutchTeenCash 05-29-2006 03:56 PM

im cool with a lotta long names as long as theyre not too hard to spell

anallydescendinghousewives.com wouldnt be my choice so to say

SleazyDream 05-29-2006 03:58 PM

i'd use something unrealted to porn - something silly like rawlikesushi or the like

Altwebdesign 05-29-2006 04:00 PM

some good points being raised

European Lee 05-29-2006 04:13 PM

The domain means very little when it comes to paysites.

As Sleazy mentioned above, RawLike Sushi isnt a niche, on the gay side of things, BadPuppy, Randy Blue arent niches, its the branding that works for the sites and the content, not the domain name.

That being said however, there is a lot to be said for a nice 'memorable' domain name to use specific to a niche and, despite first thoughts, there are a lot of reasonably short 2 word, un-hyphenated domains available that are also pretty good from a branding standpoint.

It totally depends on what you want to do, would you like your affiliates (if you have any) to do all the branding work for you or, are you going to brand the site/s yourself?

One method is a lot easier and more cost-effective to use than the other.

I personally like using the 1 domain per site approach, not only because it allows me to brand individual sites but, because it gives me a wider scope of options when it comes to 'in-house' sales and traffic.

Regards,

Lee

12clicks 05-29-2006 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i'd use something unrealted to porn - something silly like rawlikesushi or the like

its been done.






by better.

12clicks 05-29-2006 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee
The domain means very little when it comes to paysites.

As Sleazy mentioned above, RawLike Sushi isnt a niche, on the gay side of things, BadPuppy, Randy Blue arent niches, its the branding that works for the sites and the content, not the domain name.

That being said however, there is a lot to be said for a nice 'memorable' domain name to use specific to a niche and, despite first thoughts, there are a lot of reasonably short 2 word, un-hyphenated domains available that are also pretty good from a branding standpoint.

It totally depends on what you want to do, would you like your affiliates (if you have any) to do all the branding work for you or, are you going to brand the site/s yourself?

One method is a lot easier and more cost-effective to use than the other.

I personally like using the 1 domain per site approach, not only because it allows me to brand individual sites but, because it gives me a wider scope of options when it comes to 'in-house' sales and traffic.

Regards,

Lee

good points Lee

SilverTab 05-29-2006 06:44 PM

Might sound stupid, but from a surfer point of view...its less tempting to join lesbian.someporncompany.com than lesbiansiteblah.com ... The surfer will think that it's not a site on it's own, but just a segment of a bigger site, and therefor that he will get less...

just my :2 cents: though, but im sure it would influence how the surfer view the site...


as for meluvlesbian.com, meluvasian.com etc.. VS. a random domain for everysite...I guess it's just a matter of wheter you want to put more effort into branding the company name, or the just that single site itself... they both have advantages...for ex: Im pretty sure a lot of surfers would trust Bangbrosworldwide.com since they know that bangbus.com is quality etc...(just using it as an example)...

SgtStrider 05-29-2006 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf
:helpme :error
Once the site is branded, it's already on a domain.

also once you get it, you have to promote the hell out of it

MasterSEO 05-29-2006 07:54 PM

catchy and easy to remember have advantage

Paul 06-04-2006 05:11 AM

Or you could do like bangbros have done and have different sites on different domains but when you watermark all the content, have it branding a hub website e.g. bangbros.com so all the typin traffic goes to the hub while also creating a strong brand

This way it can work out cost effective with your expenses for domains, for all your paysites you won't need to spent a lot on short domains because you invest in 1 good easy to remember domain which you will brand on all your content.

Like I said bangbros are a great example, just check out their sites and what they have done


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