The Greeks and the Turks - F16 collision - GoFuckYourself.com

Rochard · 05-23-2006, 09:32 PM

Okay, explain this to me. The Greek Air Force and the Turkish Air Force had a mid air collision. Both sides were flying US made F16s. Doesn't this strike anyone as odd?

Yahoo News link

Theo · 05-23-2006, 09:34 PM

not really. What's the odd part?

Pleasurepays · 05-23-2006, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Okay, explain this to me. The Greek Air Force and the Turkish Air Force had a mid air collision. Both sides were flying US made F16s. Doesn't this strike anyone as odd?

Yahoo News link

yeah... odd. plane crashes never happen. ever. crazy shit. wow.

strange.

The Sultan Of Smut · 05-23-2006, 09:42 PM

Ya I don't get the odd part either. The US is the biggest arms dealer and two of their clients had an accident.

Bdiddy · 05-23-2006, 09:45 PM

what's odd about it?

pr0 · 05-23-2006, 10:02 PM

I find it odd turkey finds it necc to fly within 6 miles of greeces coastline

2HousePlague · 05-23-2006, 10:05 PM

"Richard, here are the keys to my F-16... have a good time" -- -- If we give our kids toys, they will play with them all day. If we deny them the pleasure of gettting a bloddy nose in a fight with the neighbor's son, they'll just stay home alone, brood in their rooms and build shit that goes "boom" --

2hp

Rochard · 05-23-2006, 10:15 PM

The Greeks and the Turks hate each other. If this is so, why are we selling them both warplanes?

Elli · 05-23-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The Greeks and the Turks hate each other. If this is so, why are we selling them both warplanes?

You're being the bigger person by remaining neutral. ;)

pr0 · 05-23-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The Greeks and the Turks hate each other. If this is so, why are we selling them both warplanes?

From lord of war...when the oldskool gun runner was questioned about the sale of weapons to Iran & Iraq.

"Did it ever cross your mind i wanted neither side to win?"

2HousePlague · 05-23-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0

From lord of war...when the oldskool gun runner was questioned about the sale of weapons to Iran & Iraq.

"Did it ever cross your mind i wanted neither side to win?"

Zealotry and philosophy don't mix.

2hp

AmateurFlix · 05-23-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The Greeks and the Turks hate each other. If this is so, why are we selling them both warplanes?

Just guessing, but:

1. They both have money to pay.
2. Neither of them are likely to pose a significant threat to the US.
3. If the US sells to one country and not the other, then the one not receiving planes will have a reason to be pissed at us.
4. If the US refuses to sell to both countries, they'll both be pissed and uncooperative in other ways.

Actually I'm not even sure the US government actually sells the planes anyway - it might be the manufacturer, a private company, selling these items.

pr0 · 05-23-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

Just guessing, but:

1. They both have money to pay.
2. Neither of them are likely to pose a significant threat to the US.
3. If the US sells to one country and not the other, then the one not receiving planes will have a reason to be pissed at us.
4. If the US refuses to sell to both countries, they'll both be pissed and uncooperative in other ways.

Actually I'm not even sure the US government actually sells the planes anyway - it might be the manufacturer, a private company, selling these items.

of course we sell them...we're #1 in international arms sales

as far as selling f-16's to people...we don't care....if they aren't friendly to us in the future...we won't give them the software upgrades....their heat signatures will easily be picked up & shot out of the sky with the simplest of anti-aircraft missles

just ask venezuela

p1mpdogg · 05-23-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0

From lord of war...when the oldskool gun runner was questioned about the sale of weapons to Iran & Iraq.

"Did it ever cross your mind i wanted neither side to win?"

that movie rocks

2HousePlague · 05-23-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0

of course we sell them...we're #1 in international arms sales

as far as selling f-16's to people...we don't care....if they aren't friendly to us in the future...we won't give them the software upgrades....their heat signatures will easily be picked up & shot out of the sky with the simplest of anti-aircraft missles

just ask venezuela

That sounds like Microsoft.

2hp

AmateurFlix · 05-23-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

That sounds like Microsoft.

2hp

if Microsoft made them they would require a restart mid-flight

Miguel T · 05-23-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

if Microsoft made them they would require a restart mid-flight

Its possible :P :P

Lev · 05-23-2006, 11:34 PM

the planes probably were trying to destory each other, but both got owned instead

Darth_Porn · 05-24-2006, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The Greeks and the Turks hate each other. If this is so, why are we selling them both warplanes?

BECAUSE ITS GOOD BUSINESS!

Do you actually think that the USA want to keep the peace or sell more planes?

Hmmm ... lets see ... make billions of dollars or give a shit if two countries hate each other. Choices - choices.

Darth_Porn · 05-24-2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

Just guessing, but:

1. They both have money to pay.
2. Neither of them are likely to pose a significant threat to the US.
3. If the US sells to one country and not the other, then the one not receiving planes will have a reason to be pissed at us.
4. If the US refuses to sell to both countries, they'll both be pissed and uncooperative in other ways.

Actually I'm not even sure the US government actually sells the planes anyway - it might be the manufacturer, a private company, selling these items.

5. Both countries are in NATO and that makes them USA allies. That gives the USA a nice excuse to sell weapons to both of them and at the same time not give a shit if they might end up killing each other.

CaptainHowdy · 05-24-2006, 01:32 AM

Weird news indeed...

Webby · 05-24-2006, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Okay, explain this to me. The Greek Air Force and the Turkish Air Force had a mid air collision. Both sides were flying US made F16s. Doesn't this strike anyone as odd?

Yahoo News link

Mmm.. The US is basically the largest arms trader in the world and sells more arms internationally than all other countries combined and will sell arms to "anyone" as long as there is a dollar to be gained.

Prior to the invasion of Iraq there was an international arms fair in Tehran and of course the US was displaying weaponary and not being left out in the cold despite "we don't like Iran".

It also may be relevant that arms and wheat remain the only who areas where the US has a trade surplus - they rest are all deficits.

amalekite · 05-24-2006, 02:27 AM

Here's some freaky shit ...but you probably won't believe it anyway

When I was 11 years old...I lived at Incirlik Air Force Base in Turkey

One early morning...I had a dream where I saw an F-16 fly straight into the ocean in a bay. There was no fire or anything on the plane..no explosions or anything...the plane just flew straight into the water

I woke up and couldn't sleep...because it felt like I had really seen a crash and a pilot get killed.

My mom was already up cooking breakfast for my dad...so I got up and sat down and told her about my dream...

Back then...there was a single TV Station on the base...

About a half an hour after I told my Mom the dream...the military interrupted the TV station to report that a pilot on maneuvers at Incirlik had just been killed in an accident.

Later we found out...that the pilot had pulled too many Gs and got knocked unconscious...and flew his plane directly into a bay on the Mediterranean..He never made any attempts to eject or anything..he was totally unconscious.

anyhow...my mom freaked out.

She tried to find out more about what had happened

turned out...the pilot had sat near us in Church that Sunday...

This freaked out my mom even more...Because my Grandmother used to have the same thing happen to her...she would be know people or meet people and see visions of how they would die..she would wake up in the middle of the night with dreams

Anyhow, this post just made me remember what happened

Barefootsies · 05-24-2006, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

From lord of war...when the oldskool gun runner was questioned about the sale of weapons to Iran & Iraq.

"Did it ever cross your mind i wanted neither side to win?"

True dat

u-Bob · 05-24-2006, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The Greeks and the Turks hate each other. If this is so, why are we selling them both warplanes?

cuz they are both NATO allies...

crockett · 05-24-2006, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

I find it odd turkey finds it necc to fly within 6 miles of greeces coastline

ANKARA (AFP) - Greek and Turkish F-16 fighter jets collided in mid-air over the eastern Aegean Sea, an area where the two NATO allies often engage in mock dog fights amid disputes over airspace.

babsy · 05-24-2006, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

That sounds like Microsoft.

2hp

Yeah, it's definitely possible. Modern fighter jets can reset seperate subsystems midflight. It's very literally an on-off switch for the computer. The software controlling planes is all compartmentalised off, so you can, as an example, reset only the weapons software, or the radar software or whatever. I'm not certain what happens if you need to reset the make-the-plane-fucking-fly software, although I'm going to wager if you just level the jet off and hit the switch, it won't drop out of the sky.

Screaming · 05-24-2006, 05:39 AM

nothing odd to me.

v4 media · 05-24-2006, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

I find it odd turkey finds it necc to fly within 6 miles of greeces coastline

Why the US do it to China constantly.. 6 miles off shore is international waters.

2HousePlague · 05-24-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by babsy

Yeah, it's definitely possible. Modern fighter jets can reset seperate subsystems midflight. It's very literally an on-off switch for the computer. The software controlling planes is all compartmentalised off, so you can, as an example, reset only the weapons software, or the radar software or whatever. I'm not certain what happens if you need to reset the make-the-plane-fucking-fly software, although I'm going to wager if you just level the jet off and hit the switch, it won't drop out of the sky.

Fighter jets are not "planes" in the sense that they do not "glide" sans power. A jet with engines "off" is like a rock. It will fall out of the sky straightaway. There ain't no "bringin' 'er home on a prayer". A jet is basically just THRUST and CONTROL SURFACES... in other words... a MISSILE.

2hp

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05-23-2006, 09:32 PM	#1
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,038	The Greeks and the Turks - F16 collision Okay, explain this to me. The Greek Air Force and the Turkish Air Force had a mid air collision. Both sides were flying US made F16s. Doesn't this strike anyone as odd? Yahoo News link __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

05-23-2006, 09:34 PM	#2
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	not really. What's the odd part?

05-23-2006, 09:42 PM	#4
The Sultan Of Smut Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,325	Ya I don't get the odd part either. The US is the biggest arms dealer and two of their clients had an accident.

05-23-2006, 11:34 PM	#18
Lev Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,545	the planes probably were trying to destory each other, but both got owned instead

05-24-2006, 01:32 AM	#21
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,575	Weird news indeed...

05-24-2006, 02:27 AM	#23
amalekite Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 162	Here's some freaky shit ...but you probably won't believe it anyway When I was 11 years old...I lived at Incirlik Air Force Base in Turkey One early morning...I had a dream where I saw an F-16 fly straight into the ocean in a bay. There was no fire or anything on the plane..no explosions or anything...the plane just flew straight into the water I woke up and couldn't sleep...because it felt like I had really seen a crash and a pilot get killed. My mom was already up cooking breakfast for my dad...so I got up and sat down and told her about my dream... Back then...there was a single TV Station on the base... About a half an hour after I told my Mom the dream...the military interrupted the TV station to report that a pilot on maneuvers at Incirlik had just been killed in an accident. Later we found out...that the pilot had pulled too many Gs and got knocked unconscious...and flew his plane directly into a bay on the Mediterranean..He never made any attempts to eject or anything..he was totally unconscious. anyhow...my mom freaked out. She tried to find out more about what had happened turned out...the pilot had sat near us in Church that Sunday... This freaked out my mom even more...Because my Grandmother used to have the same thing happen to her...she would be know people or meet people and see visions of how they would die..she would wake up in the middle of the night with dreams Anyhow, this post just made me remember what happened