Letter to W. Bush from IRAN - GoFuckYourself.com

Paraskass · 05-09-2006, 11:20 PM

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world...emonde.letter/

Ahmadinejad?s letter to Bush
Wednesday, May 09, 2006 Posted: 12:00 PM EDT (1600 GMT)
The following is the letter sent by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to President Bush on Monday. The letter comes from the Web site of the French newspaper Le Monde. A White House official confirmed to CNN that this is the exact English translation of the letter the White House received. (Note: The acronym PBUH stands for Praise Be Unto Him)

Paraskass · 05-09-2006, 11:21 PM

Rebecca Love · 05-09-2006, 11:23 PM

sig spot???

sonofsam · 05-09-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebecca Love

sig spot???

I don't think george bush posts here... so there won't be too much drama

Donny · 05-09-2006, 11:29 PM

I didn't realize Islam puts much emphasis on Jesus Christ. Sounds rather odd to me.

BlingDaddy · 05-09-2006, 11:29 PM

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Splum · 05-09-2006, 11:32 PM

Talk is cheap

L-Pink · 05-09-2006, 11:35 PM

I'll bet George invites him down to the ranch for an afternoon of barbecue, beer and shooting potato guns.

Jakke PNG · 05-09-2006, 11:38 PM

You think Bush had patience to read such a long letter? I doubt it since the US refused to return the first communication in what 2 decades.

Degenerate · 05-09-2006, 11:40 PM

IRAN can suck my left nut. Fucking bitches.

SmutGiant · 05-09-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

You think Bush had patience to read such a long letter?

I thought the same once i stopped reading after the second page

BusterBunny · 05-10-2006, 12:00 AM

minusonebit · 05-10-2006, 12:00 AM

Well, I'd say Iran has just proved who has the more intelligent leader. And its not the United Snakes.

Pornwolf · 05-10-2006, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Donny

I didn't realize Islam puts much emphasis on Jesus Christ. Sounds rather odd to me.

They don't necessarily but they do respect Jesus enough to quote him and believe in his word. They believe he was on the same level as thier prophet Mohammed, it's just that they follow Mohammed's teachings more since he is more culturally significant to them.

The response to this letter from the White House has been pretty depressing. I don't think Bush will ever directly respond to some of the points raised. The world is going to digest this letter and talk about it for months to come. Lots of good points in it.

HizAzPhun · 05-10-2006, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Donny

I didn't realize Islam puts much emphasis on Jesus Christ. Sounds rather odd to me.

Muhammad was a big fan of Jesus as well as all of the prophets of the Old Testament... especially Abraham of course.

The Quran specifically instructs Muslims not to try to convert "People of the Book" (Christians or Jews) basically because they all already believe in the same God, and because the Quran is more or less an extension of the same message from the same God just aimed at Arabs.

That's my understanding of it anyway, it's a very complicated religion, ever since the death of Muhammad it's been more or less chaos.

PS: Interesting letter, but I agree that there is no possible way that G.W. Bush would take the time to read it. As sick as that concept is ...

pussyluver · 05-10-2006, 12:24 AM

I like the one that refers to Bush as "Your Excellency". Now that is a beginning of an understanding.... Just noy sure what though.

potter · 05-10-2006, 12:34 AM

The first four pages bring up some good points, though alot of the same things he says about American society and government contradicts what Iran does, and has done in the past.

After that it gets wayyyy wayyyyy into religion. And I for one, think religion mixing in government is terrible.

michel · 05-10-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Degenerate

IRAN can suck my left nut. Fucking bitches.

You took the right nick

michel · 05-10-2006, 02:08 AM

I can see the letter makes sense, considering the limited amout of replies on a board like this

Shocking · 05-10-2006, 02:19 AM

to lazy to read all that crap. can some one give me a small version of the doc?

Lazonby · 05-10-2006, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HizAzPhun

Muhammad was a big fan of Jesus as well as all of the prophets of the Old Testament... especially Abraham of course.

The Quran specifically instructs Muslims not to try to convert "People of the Book" (Christians or Jews) basically because they all already believe in the same God, and because the Quran is more or less an extension of the same message from the same God just aimed at Arabs.

That's my understanding of it anyway, it's a very complicated religion, ever since the death of Muhammad it's been more or less chaos.

PS: Interesting letter, but I agree that there is no possible way that G.W. Bush would take the time to read it. As sick as that concept is ...

Bullshit. Did your local Imam tell you that?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-10-2006, 02:28 AM

Nuke that Iranian psychopath.
Jesus Titty Fucking Christ just get on with it...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-10-2006, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shocking

to lazy to read all that crap. can some one give me a small version of the doc?

Translation = I am a religeous fuck wad please come nuke me.

Pornwolf · 05-10-2006, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by michel

I can see the letter makes sense, considering the limited amout of replies on a board like this

Heh, I was thinking the same thing. There doesn't seem to be a lot of argument on this one... even from the most die hard pro Bush Americans.

Pornwolf · 05-10-2006, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shocking

to lazy to read all that crap. can some one give me a small version of the doc?

Read it. It's one of those things people will still be discussing 20 years from now.

michel · 05-10-2006, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Heh, I was thinking the same thing. There doesn't seem to be a lot of argument on this one... even from the most die hard pro Bush Americans.

Reading something that makes sense, but that goes against what you stand for or believe must be very exhausting....

Pornwolf · 05-10-2006, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by michel

Reading something that makes sense, but that goes against what you stand for or believe must be very exhausting....

Yes, that's why you see headlines like this:

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Originally Posted by Forbes

US will not reply to Iran letter, wants real progress on nuclear issue WASHINGTON (AFX) - The US said it will make no formal response to a letter sent by the Iranian president, but President George W Bush vowed to pursue diplomatic efforts to counter Iran's nuclear program.

As Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arrived in Indonesia, where he could ask Jakarta to mediate in the nuclear row, Tehran said it was waiting for a reply to his 18-page letter to Bush.

But the White House insisted there will be no response on top of comments already made by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who said it contained nothing new that offered hope of settling the nuclear dispute.

Although a New York meeting yesterday of the foreign ministers of six major powers failed to agree on how to tackle Tehran, Rice said: 'The international community is united that there must be a strong message to Iran through the Security Council that their behavior to date is unacceptable.'

While the nuclear situation does need to be addressed, the Iranian president brought up a lot of issues that no one of high political rank ever addressed in public. It's easier for Bush to just gloss over the statements made and basically stick his fingers in his ears and say "La la la la la la la la... I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" Like a little kid would during an argument.

sacX · 05-10-2006, 04:17 AM

most of the things he says are pretty reasonable.. needs to learn to summarise though.

sacX · 05-10-2006, 04:20 AM

loses me when he starts rambling about religion and the failure of liberalism + democracy.

michel · 05-10-2006, 06:15 AM

Read GFY read.......

sfera · 05-10-2006, 07:14 AM

man, need some cliff notes on this one thanks

Thead · 05-10-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HizAzPhun

Muhammad was a big fan of Jesus as well as all of the prophets of the Old Testament... especially Abraham of course.

The Quran specifically instructs Muslims not to try to convert "People of the Book" (Christians or Jews) basically because they all already believe in the same God, and because the Quran is more or less an extension of the same message from the same God just aimed at Arabs.

That's my understanding of it anyway, it's a very complicated religion, ever since the death of Muhammad it's been more or less chaos.

PS: Interesting letter, but I agree that there is no possible way that G.W. Bush would take the time to read it. As sick as that concept is ...

Watch this video: http://www.memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1050#

TheSenator · 05-10-2006, 07:52 AM

Let sit back and read ... while sipping some green tea

dv2 · 05-10-2006, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Donny

I didn't realize Islam puts much emphasis on Jesus Christ. Sounds rather odd to me.

No...I believe he is saying that W does, and it's hard to see any Jesus-like actions comng from him.

Nikki_Licks · 05-10-2006, 08:13 AM

Bush can't read without a teleprompter let alone form a complete sentence.....

I doubt he got through the first sentence without the help of his staff.

Drake · 05-10-2006, 08:16 AM

References to religion is weak, but yeah I get his point.

This is nothing new to me anyway. While every President and many in the US claim to be Christians none really are. The only person I know of that I could say is a shining example of the tenets of Christianity is Mother Theresa. The rest of us are bullshitters, war mongerers, money seekers, paying lip service to the notion that we're anything remotely close to what Jesus was and wished for us to be.

directfiesta · 05-10-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Bush can't read without a teleprompter let alone form a complete sentence.....

I doubt he got through the first sentence without the help of his staff.

and it needs to say " terror" , "nukular", "terrarists" , "freedom", "liberation" , " democracy", "oil" , "thugs", ...

Otherwise, he is pretty lost after the first line ....

On a serious note, the USA already has it's agenda, as per the neo-cons of the New Century ....

NBDesign · 05-10-2006, 08:27 AM

The thing that gets me is... that a man who claims to be so religious there seems to be a lack of respect for the seven deadly sins... Greed is the one that stands out most for me and this administration.

pussyluver · 05-10-2006, 08:28 AM

When you think about it, what is W gonna do with that pile of horse crap? Looks like a highschool project gone bad at a religious school.

Maybe Jerry Farwell could give a hand in a response letter. Or just stamp the whole damn thing JESUS SAVES and send it back????

leggs · 05-10-2006, 08:29 AM

Who want's to place a bet that George W. Bush looks at General Schwarzkopf and say's "Whoa Nigga Please! I ain't reading all that!"

VicJay · 05-10-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Bush can't read without a teleprompter let alone form a complete sentence.....

I doubt he got through the first sentence without the help of his staff.

Nice one

Webby · 05-10-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Well, I'd say Iran has just proved who has the more intelligent leader. And its not the United Snakes.

Sadly this is true!!!

Nicky · 05-10-2006, 09:23 AM

Good read, im no big fan of religion though.

SilentKnight · 05-10-2006, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by potter

The first four pages bring up some good points, though alot of the same things he says about American society and government contradicts what Iran does, and has done in the past.

After that it gets wayyyy wayyyyy into religion. And I for one, think religion mixing in government is terrible.

Couldn't have said it better.

One thing that interested me was the high level of articulation in the letter. All that I know of Iran's leader is mostly from the nightly newscasts - and I always understood him to be a low-brow fanatical despot. Instead, the letter was quite well-written, intelligent...and raises a few very good points. Even if Bush were to read it (or has already read it)...I'll wager much of it sailed right over his head. It didn't have cartoons to hold his attention.

On the surface it reads like somewhat of a proverbial olive branch - but the U.S. has good reason not to trust Iran (everyone remember the Ayatollah Khomeini regime and the American hostage crisis?). There's no doubt they can be backstabbing and extremely two-faced.

But overall, I must admit it was good to read a letter written in open frankness and not couched in diplomatic double-talk.

Splum · 05-10-2006, 09:32 AM

Wow a lot of Iranians on GFY.

directfiesta · 05-10-2006, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

There's no doubt they can be backstabbing and extremely two-faced.

Who are you referring too ?

HizAzPhun · 05-10-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Thead

Watch this video: http://www.memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1050#

Damn, that lady is awesome, MAD respect to her. Thanks for sharing that video.

I'm not trying to defend Muslims or Islam here, just saying that if you look at Muhammad's words from a historical context, he was not hateful towards Chrisitians and Jews as so many of his followers unfortunately are. Again, I'm not speaking about Muslims, but telling you my understanding of Muhammad's words.

"We believe in what has been revealed to us, just as we believe in what has been revealed to you [Jews and Christians]. Our God and your God are the same; and it is to Him we submit" 29:46

But just like most of the major religions today, the leaders words and actions couldn't be more contradictory to the words and actions of most of their "followers".

Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc ... one of the greatest things we all have in common is the propensity to take inspired words, claim allegiance-to and faith-in them, and then spend the rest of our lives in hypocricy.

tony286 · 05-10-2006, 10:21 AM

a well written letter

Pornwolf · 05-10-2006, 11:13 AM

I gotta admit, just as I am impressed by the letter, I am scared of the level of blind faith he's showing in religion as he understands it. The world would never be safe with him having more clout either.

Rabid Muslims on the left, fanatical Christians on the right... Hell, we're all fucked any way you slice it.

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potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	The first four pages bring up some good points, though alot of the same things he says about American society and government contradicts what Iran does, and has done in the past. After that it gets wayyyy wayyyyy into religion. And I for one, think religion mixing in government is terrible. __________________

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