The GFY Graphic Designer Showdown - Page 15 - GoFuckYourself.com

cyberpunk · 05-28-2002, 01:06 PM

WOOWWO 700!

I'll add a 3 Month Vhosting package to the prize list too

from www.dedicatedonly.com

cherrylula · 05-28-2002, 01:09 PM

I love the way all these graphic designers are turning up. Its getting really old seeing all the "what do you think" posts. blech.

Can't wait to see the entries.

Naughty · 05-29-2002, 05:56 PM

AMP, this thread is way too big to dig through... 2 questions:
1. Can you add me to the list of ppl that will join
Naughty .............. NaughtyDesign.com

2. Where do we upload the site(tour), do we have to contact somebody ?

Thnxx.

kush · 05-29-2002, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
UPDATE:

Matrix Content has generously made an offer to sponsor any designers participating in this by providing content for your tour. However, the one catch is that when it's over, Matrix Content owns your tour. You may not use it anywhere else. It must be turned over to them.

Generous offer? Fuck that! Am I the only one that sees Matrix is seriously ripping the designer off here?

THE BEST Professional tours cost upwards of $3000+. Basically Matrix is telling you to create a tour for them and to use their content. You get NOTHING from them and they get your valuable tour FREE (either way, there's no expense to them)

Who else thinks this is an incredible insult to the intelligent webmaster?

Amputate Your Head · 05-29-2002, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kush
Generous offer? Fuck that! Am I the only one that sees Matrix is seriously ripping the designer off here?

THE BEST Professional tours cost upwards of $3000+. Basically Matrix is telling you to create a tour for them and to use their content. You get NOTHING from them and they get your valuable tour FREE (either way, there's no expense to them)

Who else thinks this is an incredible insult to the intelligent webmaster?

Look.... Matrix made a very generous offer, in my opinion. Especially for people that can't afford to go out and buy new content. And that's who it really applies to anyway. They're giving the average schmuck a chance to compete here... the price is laid out up front: Your tour. If you don't agree, then you don't take the deal. Any other content provider would do the same, so why are you bashing Matrix? Don't like the offer? Don't sign the agreement. Buy your fucking content.

And don't fucking quote me on this shit and try to make me look like the bad guy. Especially when there IS no bad guy on this one.

Go away kush. You bashed for no reason on this one.

kush · 05-29-2002, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Look.... Matrix made a very generous offer, in my opinion. Especially for people that can't afford to go out and buy new content. And that's who it really applies to anyway. They're giving the average schmuck a chance to compete here... the price is laid out up front: Your tour. If you don't agree, then you don't take the deal. Any other content provider would do the same, so why are you bashing Matrix? Don't like the offer? Don't sign the agreement. Buy your fucking content.

And don't fucking quote me on this shit and try to make me look like the bad guy. Especially when there IS no bad guy on this one.

Go away kush. You bashed for no reason on this one.

First off, I know you're a good guy and wouldn't try to make it appear otherwise - and maybe you're right about Matrix. I've got no beef with them; I am not in competition with them nor am I contestant in this contest (I'm just asserting my opinion is non-biased)

Hear me out: A designer creates a kickass tour and uses the Matrix content to offer quality images to impress the audience. He labours HOURS upon HOURS thinking, designing, planning, and tweaking (and you know what that's like).

At the end of the contest he comes one spot away from winning the prize. Under a normal situation he at least wouldn't walk away empty-handed; he would still have his kickass tour which he could turn a great profit on selling or using it himself. Instead, Matrix keeps the valuable tour, and the webmaster ends up with absolutely nothing.

Now look at it from Matrix's point of view:

They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Their pics don't get any exposure to surfers, therefore they don't lose any value. Matrix appears to get a better rep by "sponsoring" the contest, but all the really sponsor is themselves because they are the ones who come away the winner in the end and the designer is the loser (lost money from time that goes towards Matrix).

If it was truly a "generous" offer then Matrix would simply say the designer couldn't use the tour without first purchasing license to the sets that he used to create the tour. But instead, Matrix says "fuck that" and chooses to just take the tour. And even if the designer chose NOT to buy the images, then he simple couldn't include them in the tour. In no way should he lose his ownership of HIS tour for NOTHING!

Amp, you're a rational, intelligent guy. Explain to me how there's nothing wrong with this picture (because honestly - I can't figure it out)

bhutocracy · 05-29-2002, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kush

First off, I know you're a good guy and wouldn't try to make it appear otherwise - and maybe you're right about Matrix. I've got no beef with them; I am not in competition with them nor am I contestant in this contest (I'm just asserting my opinion is non-biased)

Hear me out: A designer creates a kickass tour and uses the Matrix content to offer quality images to impress the audience. He labours HOURS upon HOURS thinking, designing, planning, and tweaking (and you know what that's like).

At the end of the contest he comes one spot away from winning the prize. Under a normal situation he at least wouldn't walk away empty-handed; he would still have his kickass tour which he could turn a great profit on selling or using it himself. Instead, Matrix keeps the valuable tour, and the webmaster ends up with absolutely nothing.

Now look at it from Matrix's point of view:

They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Their pics don't get any exposure to surfers, therefore they don't lose any value. Matrix appears to get a better rep by "sponsoring" the contest, but all the really sponsor is themselves because they are the ones who come away the winner in the end and the designer is the loser (lost money from time that goes towards Matrix).

If it was truly a "generous" offer then Matrix would simply say the designer couldn't use the tour without first purchasing license to the sets that he used to create the tour. But instead, Matrix says "fuck that" and chooses to just take the tour. And even if the designer chose NOT to buy the images, then he simple couldn't include them in the tour. In no way should he lose his ownership of HIS tour for NOTHING!

Amp, you're a rational, intelligent guy. Explain to me how there's nothing wrong with this picture (because honestly - I can't figure it out)

it's because the designer that would otherwise not be able to participate not only gets the chance to win a prize, but also gets exposure for their work...advertising that is quite valuable as well as a gem for their portfolio..

foe · 05-29-2002, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Alcohol is optional....

I would amend it to mandatory

media · 05-29-2002, 10:42 PM

Man theres alot of posts in this thread.. Is it june first yet? maybe if I just goto sleep it will be june 1st when I wake up! haha!

This shit is gonna be fun.. cant wait to see what everyone comes up with.. Ok back into my shell..

Media

thepolitician · 05-30-2002, 01:58 AM

how do i enter on this contest?

Naughty · 05-30-2002, 08:44 AM

Amp, did you add me yet? I did not see it in the list.

Also, how do we upload the stuff? To whom do we send the site?

Xquisite · 05-30-2002, 12:56 PM

Amp-

just heard about the showdown, and i'd like to be included. i'm representing Xquisite Media...

thanks.

kush · 05-30-2002, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

it's because the designer that would otherwise not be able to participate not only gets the chance to win a prize, but also gets exposure for their work...advertising that is quite valuable as well as a gem for their portfolio..

Maybe so - but that's a long term thing. The tour itself is a tangible thing that has real value - and matrix takes that away from the designer without offering them any chance for them to keep it for themselves.

Hell - if anybody wants to design a tour - I'LL BUY the matrix content for them to use, they design the tour. Except what I'll offer that Matrix doesn't is i'll even throw in 100 bucks (still pretty lame, but sure beats Matrix's offer)

Naughty · 05-30-2002, 05:15 PM

Wasn't there a rule that all designers had to be a member of GFY BEFORE the month May 2002?

kush · 05-30-2002, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Your lack of response proves my point EXACTLY.

truewiz · 05-30-2002, 10:16 PM

I'm in - I love anything run by a person that thinks M$ is crap!

srikanth79 · 05-30-2002, 10:21 PM

Hi Amp,

Add me tooo i will also give a try :-) what next? how/where do i show the designs.give the comple info plz

Thanks,
srikanth

Amputate Your Head · 05-30-2002, 10:28 PM

Naughty,
I don't remember that rule. You guys are inventing stuff as you go here. Whatever is on the official site is what info there is.

Quote:

Originally posted by kush

Your lack of response proves my point EXACTLY.

kush,
what would you like me to say? What point? You want me to argue something with you here or what are you looking for? The offer was made by Matrix Content. Not me. I have zero control over it and I don't care if someone thinks it's fair or not. Their offer stands. Don't like the offer, don't make the deal. Kinda simple really. You wanna make an offer of your own to someone, then go for it.

Everyone trying to get on the list,
I'll say it again: I don't have control over that official site. It's not on my server and I don't have access to modify anything on it. If you wanna get on the list, get in touch with jpfdude. He is the guy that can get you listed from this point on.

Amputate Your Head · 05-30-2002, 10:37 PM

kush, I'm sorry man, I'm not trying to be snippety with you, but it's Matrix's deal.... I don't work for Matrix so I can't change it. Whether it's a fair deal or not is up to the individual to decide for themselves for their situation. They offered it and so it was posted.

I do see your point and it's a good one, but arguing it here with me is pointless.... talk to Matrix if you want real answers on it bro.

Loki_G4 · 05-31-2002, 08:10 AM

Could you ad me to the official contest site?

Thanks

alias · 05-31-2002, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kush

First off, I know you're a good guy and wouldn't try to make it appear otherwise - and maybe you're right about Matrix. I've got no beef with them; I am not in competition with them nor am I contestant in this contest (I'm just asserting my opinion is non-biased)

Hear me out: A designer creates a kickass tour and uses the Matrix content to offer quality images to impress the audience. He labours HOURS upon HOURS thinking, designing, planning, and tweaking (and you know what that's like).

At the end of the contest he comes one spot away from winning the prize. Under a normal situation he at least wouldn't walk away empty-handed; he would still have his kickass tour which he could turn a great profit on selling or using it himself. Instead, Matrix keeps the valuable tour, and the webmaster ends up with absolutely nothing.

Now look at it from Matrix's point of view:

They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Their pics don't get any exposure to surfers, therefore they don't lose any value. Matrix appears to get a better rep by "sponsoring" the contest, but all the really sponsor is themselves because they are the ones who come away the winner in the end and the designer is the loser (lost money from time that goes towards Matrix).

If it was truly a "generous" offer then Matrix would simply say the designer couldn't use the tour without first purchasing license to the sets that he used to create the tour. But instead, Matrix says "fuck that" and chooses to just take the tour. And even if the designer chose NOT to buy the images, then he simple couldn't include them in the tour. In no way should he lose his ownership of HIS tour for NOTHING!

Amp, you're a rational, intelligent guy. Explain to me how there's nothing wrong with this picture (because honestly - I can't figure it out)

I agree kush, & if they [matrix] let you use content then you could buy it at the end they could clean up on some sales also.

alias · 05-31-2002, 08:18 AM

also though maybe they dont want to give away their content to every "designer" that contacts them in hopes of gettting it paid for later when most serious people would just buy it..

SetTheWorldonFire · 05-31-2002, 08:22 AM

It's too bad matrix only let one person use their content already. I emailed them and ask if I could use thier content and :

Quote:

Hey Set The World,

I apologize but we already have someone using our content for this contest.

Matrix Content Inc.

I'm gonna have to work with the only 3 sets of photos I have. Anyone willing to donate some to me.

Va2k · 05-31-2002, 08:28 AM

settheworldonfire talk to dean from planetcontent.com tell him Tom aka va2k sent you he may work something out for you. pretty sure he would

SetTheWorldonFire · 05-31-2002, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by va2k
settheworldonfire talk to dean from planetcontent.com tell him Tom aka va2k sent you he may work something out for you. pretty sure he would

Thanks. I'll email him right now and let you know what happen. THakns again.

Tabster · 05-31-2002, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
It's too bad matrix only let one person use their content already. I emailed them and ask if I could use thier content and :

I'm gonna have to work with the only 3 sets of photos I have. Anyone willing to donate some to me.

I have addet you to my ICQ.
Please contact me, maybe we can work something out...

kush · 05-31-2002, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
kush, I'm sorry man, I'm not trying to be snippety with you, but it's Matrix's deal.... I don't work for Matrix so I can't change it. Whether it's a fair deal or not is up to the individual to decide for themselves for their situation. They offered it and so it was posted.

I do see your point and it's a good one, but arguing it here with me is pointless.... talk to Matrix if you want real answers on it bro.

I thought you were against my point - but it's clear now that you're not. We're cool

quiet · 09-30-2003, 01:32 AM

hehe, hard to believe this contest actually happened back then. good shit

09-30-2003, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
hehe, hard to believe this contest actually happened back then. good shit

no kidding. I think we should do it again...

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 08:44 AM

now thats a blast from the past.

Keev · 09-30-2003, 09:44 AM

Another contest?

Tofu · 09-30-2003, 10:39 AM

WTF?!?! and i get flamed when i bump old threads!

05-28-2002, 01:06 PM	#701
cyberpunk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,377	WOOWWO 700! I'll add a 3 Month Vhosting package to the prize list too from www.dedicatedonly.com Last edited by cyberpunk; 05-28-2002 at 01:07 PM..

05-29-2002, 05:56 PM	#703
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,483	AMP, this thread is way too big to dig through... 2 questions: 1. Can you add me to the list of ppl that will join Naughty .............. NaughtyDesign.com 2. Where do we upload the site(tour), do we have to contact somebody ? Thnxx. __________________ seks.ai for sale - ping me

05-30-2002, 01:58 AM	#710
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05-31-2002, 08:10 AM	#720
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05-31-2002, 08:18 AM	#722
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05-28-2002, 01:09 PM	#702
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I love the way all these graphic designers are turning up. Its getting really old seeing all the "what do you think" posts. blech. Can't wait to see the entries.

05-29-2002, 10:42 PM	#709
media Confirmed Moneymaker Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR It's Like Jail, Only with Trees! Posts: 9,852	Man theres alot of posts in this thread.. Is it june first yet? maybe if I just goto sleep it will be june 1st when I wake up! haha! This shit is gonna be fun.. cant wait to see what everyone comes up with.. Ok back into my shell.. Media

05-30-2002, 08:44 AM	#711
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,483	Amp, did you add me yet? I did not see it in the list. Also, how do we upload the stuff? To whom do we send the site?

05-30-2002, 12:56 PM	#712
Xquisite Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 20	Amp- just heard about the showdown, and i'd like to be included. i'm representing Xquisite Media... thanks.

05-30-2002, 05:15 PM	#714
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,483	Wasn't there a rule that all designers had to be a member of GFY BEFORE the month May 2002?

05-30-2002, 10:16 PM	#716
truewiz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California Posts: 10	I'm in - I love anything run by a person that thinks M$ is crap!

05-30-2002, 10:21 PM	#717
srikanth79 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 416	Hi Amp, Add me tooo i will also give a try :-) what next? how/where do i show the designs.give the comple info plz Thanks, srikanth

05-30-2002, 10:37 PM	#719
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	kush, I'm sorry man, I'm not trying to be snippety with you, but it's Matrix's deal.... I don't work for Matrix so I can't change it. Whether it's a fair deal or not is up to the individual to decide for themselves for their situation. They offered it and so it was posted. I do see your point and it's a good one, but arguing it here with me is pointless.... talk to Matrix if you want real answers on it bro.

05-31-2002, 08:28 AM	#724
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	settheworldonfire talk to dean from planetcontent.com tell him Tom aka va2k sent you he may work something out for you. pretty sure he would __________________

09-30-2003, 01:32 AM	#728
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	hehe, hard to believe this contest actually happened back then. good shit __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

09-30-2003, 08:44 AM	#730
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	now thats a blast from the past. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

09-30-2003, 09:44 AM	#731
Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	Another contest? __________________ ReliableServers.com - NO REF LINK!

09-30-2003, 10:39 AM	#732
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