The GFY Graphic Designer Showdown - Page 10 - GoFuckYourself.com

FATPad · 05-17-2002, 02:30 AM

450!

*double oink*

bhutocracy · 05-17-2002, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baremuffin
Dammit, I lost my login info and had to create another name... the big two posts I'd had originally were *such* a painful birth, I hate to lose them... haha

However, I'd like to enter this design thing, too. Am I supposed to do it this way still?
TeenGodFather
Hypo
Nina
Bhuto
Lickshots
redshift
amp
Sabai
va2k
Vegasdude
AdultWebGraphics
Fletch XXX
Tylo
XXXPaysiteDesign
Andrew@XPD
Brut
Tabster
MetaformX
GotGauge
alias
DamnFineOnline
Hyper
baremuffin/MinXxX

I've also got some new, exclusive feeds that are out of production (complete) but haven't actually begun being promoted yet that I'd like to donate 3 months access to as a lower-level prize...maybe like fourth, something like that. One minute RealPlayer clips, categorized and ripped for high-quality broadband streaming, and also to be a short, palatable download for modem users as well. Whoever is in charge of the prizes, please contact me and I'll get you the info... [email protected] or ICQ 37519122 or hell, even AIM if you must, look for baremuffin.

If anybody has any gothic content they'd be willing to trade for contest use only, please hit me up. I don't have any of that, and that's where my heart REALLY is

It's ok to donate a prize and enter, right? If not, I'll have the client I represent on the feeds be the actual 'prize sponsor'; we can probably throw in a dvd package as well.

I've read this whole thread and I'm really looking forward to seeing everybody's work. I see there's questions regarding the usage of Flash, and though I'm staying out of that one, I'd like to know what constitutes a 'weird' plug-in... some of my tours include vid content, and I guess I'd like to know if that's outright banned in this competition, or if it would be okay for a vid-based niche tour...

Also, finally, are there any limitations on categories? I understand lolita, kiddy, beastie, rape, etc. are common sense no-nos, but I was wondering if watersport, fisting, gothic, etc. are all valid choices.

If not, I'm sure I can go with something a little less... specialized

Thanks guys, this should be alot of fun... though looking at Amp's stuff has put the proverbial fear of designing God into my heart...

Take care,
Michelle

heheh i'd love to play with some gothic content too.. was thinking of asking sykkboy.. but.... if you're going to do it..

Keev · 05-17-2002, 03:01 AM

GO AMP GO! only a couple hundred left to go to 10k

bunky · 05-17-2002, 03:01 AM

whats the offical rule/prize/contestant/ page again??

baremuffin · 05-17-2002, 03:08 AM

I'm going to die a jealous and unfulfilled woman if you get that goth content, Amp

I dont' know enough people to know who to ask, so I guess good luck and run with it :o)

I'd figured I'd do something up MY alley for this, since for once a client isn't calling the shots or setting the limits, but then I crawled into my content trove and lo and behold... it's all pretty mainstream, not really my 'thing' at all, lol... tons of blow jobs, tons of anal, tons of group (dp and a2m even), lots of ebony, lots of girl/girl, lots of tits, big and small, and facial cumshots galore... but I want goth, or heavy duty bdsm. Not even any fisting *sigh*

Ah well, I'll probably crawl back to pornstars... it's easy to make them look good *giggle*

Then, in the morning, I'm up to BEG one of my clients to shoot me some good gothic shit... or just to shoot me!

*crawls back under rock*

M

Jakke PNG · 05-17-2002, 03:16 AM

Oh boy, oh boy, boy!
This is gonna be swell!

danevans · 05-17-2002, 03:24 AM

So:

Quote:

Originally posted by BadBoyBill4281
so lets all make a choice here and now and say one set of content for all to use grab free content from all the BIG content providers and set a page up with it on it and call it a day and say you have to use this content to be in the thing everythign else goes!

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
1. The niches would have to be preset. No question about it. Can be 5 niches to choose from.... 3.... or 1..... whatever. But there would have to be content for however many niches there's gonna be, because you can't do a teen tour with fetish content. Know what I mean?
2. This also means that everyone will have to use the same content sets.... (which is why 4 or 5 or 6 different niches to choose from would be nice) and that means we need a content provider to sponsor this thing and provide the sets that are to be used in the tours. Any content providers out there wanna step up to this? If there are multiple content providers that are willing to do this, we could have the 5 or so niches, and have the providers sponsor one niche each. If you choose to do that niche, you use the content assigned to it.

Quote:

Originally posted by Siren
Post the zip file when the contest commences, and that is the first time anyone sees it.
It is real life, and evens the play feild.

Someone mentioned apples and oranges.. If different/own content and domains will be allowed, then flash should be allowed too, cause the final look&feel is what we're after.
And if we want a "real-life" situation, then all of us must work with the same sets of content (not one set, but the same "total" material), same 5-6 domains, and content zips should be uploaded on June 1st, and the tours should be flat, no flash.
I think this makes sense, if it's BS tell me that

BadBoyBill4281 · 05-17-2002, 03:24 AM

here is the GFYdesign contest site http://www.opticalamplitude.com/showdown/index.html

mule · 05-17-2002, 03:29 AM

Dammit, when will I get the time? Life is too hectic lately.
But I wanna do it anyway

TeenGodFather
Hypo
Nina
Bhuto
Lickshots
redshift
amp
Sabai
va2k
Vegasdude
AdultWebGraphics
Fletch XXX
Tylo
XXXPaysiteDesign
Andrew@XPD
Brut
Tabster
MetaformX
GotGauge
alias
DamnFineOnline
Hyper
baremuffin/MinXxX
mule

Am I in now? This thread is too damned long

spanky · 05-17-2002, 03:34 AM

TeenGodFather
Hypo
Nina
Bhuto
Lickshots
redshift
amp
Sabai
va2k
Vegasdude
AdultWebGraphics
Fletch XXX
Tylo
XXXPaysiteDesign
Andrew@XPD
Brut
Tabster
MetaformX
GotGauge
alias
DamnFineOnline
Hyper
baremuffin/MinXxX
mule
spanky

cheers

bhutocracy · 05-17-2002, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baremuffin
I'm going to die a jealous and unfulfilled woman if you get that goth content, Amp I dont' know enough people to know who to ask, so I guess good luck and run with it :o)

I'd figured I'd do something up MY alley for this, since for once a client isn't calling the shots or setting the limits, but then I crawled into my content trove and lo and behold... it's all pretty mainstream, not really my 'thing' at all, lol... tons of blow jobs, tons of anal, tons of group (dp and a2m even), lots of ebony, lots of girl/girl, lots of tits, big and small, and facial cumshots galore... but I want goth, or heavy duty bdsm. Not even any fisting *sigh*

Ah well, I'll probably crawl back to pornstars... it's easy to make them look good *giggle*

Then, in the morning, I'm up to BEG one of my clients to shoot me some good gothic shit... or just to shoot me!

*crawls back under rock*

M

i think you meant me.. but it's hard as hell to find cool stuff

.. i certainly don't have any.. just searched for about an hour.. unseen has some girls that are slightly goth amatuers.. matrix has a couple, that i must say.. well.. aren't that goth.. more pornstar in gothish clothes..ounique has one girl.. and she hasn't been colour corrected and isn't of as high a standard as the previous two companies..

bhutocracy · 05-17-2002, 04:11 AM

if that helps at all.. or saves you a $$$ exclusive shoot..

pornsuite · 05-17-2002, 04:20 AM

ok, im in this shit.

Nysus · 05-17-2002, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornsuite
ok, im in this shit.

Didn't you fuck webmasters over? I never heard what happened, if it was something that was truthfully out of your control, and why you have taken down your hosting (and put up banner pages), then please explain... maybe you can start a new thread.

Unless it was a joke, I don't see how you're still here..

Cheers,
Matt

baremuffin · 05-17-2002, 06:32 AM

The non-spoofy (if that's even a fucking word) gothic or 'dark' themed porn I've found is either too staged, like the pornstars in 'gothy' outfits you spoke of before, or campy, like those "gore" sites I've seen around once or twice... with martians, and vampire nuns and stuff. It's fun, I love it because it's different, but it's not GOTH like I want GOTH - I guess that takes either REAL goth chicks, or girls that have pale skin, dark hair, and who can fake the goth look without looking completely out of their element whilst also managing to be sexy and possibly be boned - apparently, not an easy find ;)

Hopefully inspiration will still strike, even without yummy gothy fun... but if anybody has some yummy gothy fun they'd want to sponsor in this contest, I'll take it

Otherwise, it's pornstars or lesbians... or maybe oral... see, I can't even make a bloody decision! If anybody's having a *really* hard time scraping content together but really wants to do this, let me know, I may be able to help you out.

Happy Friday folks! Don't party too hard, believe me waking up on the second Monday without knowing it can be a serious pain in the @$$ - or head, however you prefer. Remember, the real party is NEXT weekend

Michelle

Brian911 · 05-17-2002, 06:36 AM

I strongly vote for "preset" niches AND content because it WILL be most interesting (at least from my point of view) to see what they made of it. It's also much easier to compare that way..
5 niches to choose from sounds good.

and the web voting is a bad idea IMHO. perhaps lensman is able to find some kind of "board add-on" for invisible voting results, and of course only those who registered before 15/5 will be allowed to vote..
this way "cheating" is probably still possible but it simple WOULDNT HURT as much as a "hitbot" for web voting because there are so many hundreds of board members who can and will vote... if some designer asks his buddies to vote for him to get the $3000 tv it does not really matter for the final result

(this_thread = top)

baremuffin · 05-17-2002, 07:17 AM

I could see some people feeling their creativity 'stifled' by not being able to use their own judgement and taste in selecting photographic materials to build a tour with, despite the argument that in a 'real' situation with a 'real' client they'd theoretically be 'limited' to what the client had onhand.

However, I'd imagine most designers, like myself, take only clients with subject matter reasonably interesting to themselves; I wouldn't take a scat site, for example, because I wouldn't be able to create a site appealing to the end-user, because to me it's completely offputting. I also feel no qualms about asking the photographers and/or videographers I work for/with for specific material to use in the future for design, promo, whatever.

So, limiting the content wouldn't really establish 'reality' or a more level playing field; at least, I don't think so, and we've already sort of agreed that since this is a graphic design showdown, there's already a lack of 'realism' inherent because in the real world, it's not about how pretty it is, it's about how well it converts. Limiting the content seems even more unfair when you read through the thread and see how many people are actually willing to share content, even if for the contest only, which in itself levels the playing field by allowing everybody some sort of access to something they like, something that inspires them, and something that reflects their style and taste and creativity.

With the new trend in 'ultraniche' categories (balloons, anyone?) exactly who gets to choose WHICH five categories we finally settle on? I could see going with overly general categories, i.e. hardcore, fetish, gay, amateur, but then what becomes important enough to be number five? Lesbian could legitimately be pushed under gay; anal, oral, toys, cumshots, fucking, group all fall under hardcore; fetish covers anything from balloons to butts to piss; maybe the fifth category could be ethnic sites? If so, that might work, it'd still let everyone choose pretty much freely, if you'd consider blonde/brunette/redhead 'ethnic' just like ebony, interracial, asian, and latin...

Unless you broke it down like that, I don't know how you could fairly choose five strict 'categories' (what, no group interracial trannie insertion category?), and really, does the category of the site even matter (as long as it's LEGAL, of course!)? If we delineate the entries like that, it brings the apples/oranges argument back again.

Keeping it simple and open to interpretation is sort of the fun part, I think. Flash and plug-ins aside, this is an artistic free-for-all and on some level, I personally figure the less regulation of ideas and the creative process, the better results we're all going to have, the more fun it will turn out to be, and, I'd bet, in the end it'll turn out to be quite a profitable 'game' for many of us, in some form or another.

Ok that was long winded. Sorry. Just my thoughts... and apparently, there's WAY TOO MANY of them flitting around in there.

Michelle

PS - (Added a minute later) - Don't you think it'd be interesting to see if anybody came up with something really out there like MenstruatingMoms.com or even SatisfyingShitSex.net? Though the chance is an outside one, it will be interesting to see which categories people gravitate toward, and how far some will bother going with it

Yes, I need sleep. That much is obvious, even to me

batdelfuego · 05-17-2002, 07:39 AM

I want to register... in the flash category...

My name is batdelfuego
from www.dconvulsions.com

email: [email protected]

Thanx!

0zzy · 05-17-2002, 08:02 AM

Is there still 2 categories? Flash and Non-Flash, because it look like there is more and more designer welling to do the free tour in flash.

Houdini · 05-17-2002, 08:12 AM

I think we decided that there would be a flash category, but only for show. Since there is only one grand prize, we're going with the original rules that said no flash for competition. There's a lot of thread here so I may have missed something, but that was last that I read on it.

MikeEP · 05-17-2002, 08:18 AM

I thought i would add my 2cents to this showdown you guys are having.

From other contests that i've see, (and i think a few people already pointed this out), the contestants are usually given one niche, and all the same content...choosen by the officials.

The officials should choose the niche, and the content. On a certain day, everyone in the contest can download the zip file to the contains the content...say, 20 different sets in the zip file.

No contestant knows the niche, or whats inside the zip file until that day.... this avoids pre planning.

Once they get the content, and the niche, then they design.

This makes the content totally even as eveyone uses the same content and niche.

A contest like thisis meant to show the creativity of each person, and how they use the content that were given. Thus, this IS what this contest is about from what iv'e read. I personally would love to see how 15 different designers choose to design with all the same content.

When your able to be given content from providers, and choose your own niche, it really makes no sense in my opinion. You guys have talked about having the voting without showing results because it's "sways" peoples judgement.

Well, what about different niche's? It does the same thing. If a contestant did a teen niche, and another one choose a mature niche, people are most likey going to "sway" towards there favorite niches...thus making the voting uneven.

A true contest is this:

On a certain day choosen by the officials, you go to webpage that is given out to each contestant. This is where the contestants find out the niche they will be designing, and download a zip file which contains the content that the officials choosen...(for that niche obviously).

A week later, the designs are do and people vote. If there's any ties, the official make the final vote, or hold a second contest for the people who tied.

Anyway, just

MagicksAntics · 05-17-2002, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus

Fuck Magick, where have you been?? You prolly don't remember me, we didn't talk all that much, I think we mostly talked around PimpWars though... not too sure.. was talking about you today infact! ;) I last thought Sex.com picked ya up.. but I heard differently

Cheers,
Matt

Wassup Matt?! How the hell are ya?

Yes indeed I at one time worked for Sex.com...last year. Worked for them up until August when Insite Adult gave me one of those offers you can't refuse

Hit me up on ICQ dude! 109972218

alias · 05-17-2002, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Houdini
I think we decided that there would be a flash category, but only for show. Since there is only one grand prize, we're going with the original rules that said no flash for competition. There's a lot of thread here so I may have missed something, but that was last that I read on it.

there is no flash category, if u want to go make a badass flash site and make a thread called "flash: isnt it swell" feel free to do so.

Houdini · 05-17-2002, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alias

there is no flash category, if u want to go make a badass flash site and make a thread called "flash: isnt it swell" feel free to do so.

I don't do flash, but there were some guys that were going to show off their designs. Like I said it is non competition, but last I read we're going to have a showcase for flash.

alias · 05-17-2002, 08:33 AM

yeah i realized that after i posted, houdini

what i said was phrased towards you.. but i meant to the the flash designers etc that wanted to use it

Amputate Your Head · 05-17-2002, 08:35 AM

I just woke up here..... damn..... I got some fresh reading to do i guess

05-17-2002, 08:40 AM

don't know if it's been noticed here, but I posted linkage on AWI and soon on other boards to attract even more designers

Keep up the great work guys !

baremuffin · 05-17-2002, 08:46 AM

I'd love to see a flash showcase... I dabble a little, but not as much as I should, and some of the things you can do with it are great. It'd be wonderful to see sites run and designed completely in flash rather than just flash splash grahpics or non-interactive use of flash... nav, menus, sales pitches, dynamic copy, etc. - is that what calibur of work you guys are going to be doing?

I'm very curious

Michelle

cherrylula · 05-17-2002, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Here is an excellent idea on what to do with the tours after it's over that was just emailed to me:

The top three prize sponsors should receive the top three tours.

Sponsor donating the 1st place prize gets the 1st place tour.
2nd place prize sponsor gets the 2nd place tour.
3rd place prize sponsor gets the 3rd place tour.

this sounds workable to me.... except.... there's gonna be multiple prizes for each place, but only one tour for each place.

needs some refinement..... suggestions?

Yeah what if the designer uses exclusive content and does not want to give up his design after the contest?

Amputate Your Head · 05-17-2002, 08:55 AM

I understand where you guys are coming from with the fixed sets/fixed niche thing..... but this is turning out to be pretty huge... do you really wanna look at 30 or 40+ versions of the same site?

Wouldn't it be much more interesting to see a wide array of differeent stuff? How does that make it unfair? If you're doing a tour that you personally got a groove for, I kinda think that would promote everyone's BEST work.... and isn't that what we really wanna see? Even if someone picks a bizarre niche.... if they're good at doing that niche, the tour should be smokin'.....

we DO have judges for this, and they're not going to base a final decision on one or another because they don't like "Gay" or something.... they're responsible enough to know that it's about the design of the tour and not their own personal sexual preferences. Have some faith here.....

SetTheWorldonFire · 05-17-2002, 08:58 AM

Imposed sets would help by giving them to designers on launch date. Nobody gets ahead.

Amputate Your Head · 05-17-2002, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula

Yeah what if the designer uses exclusive content and does not want to give up his design after the contest?

I think that plan is not gonna work.... for several reasons....

so I think whatever the designer does with the tour afterwards is gonna be dependant on each individual situation. Some may want to sell it, some may want to use it for their own, some may have it promised to a content provider or someone, some may want to auction it off..... so, from what I can see, there's really no ONE thing we could impose on that.....

Personally, I'm willing to hand mine over to a prize sponsor if it gets that far, and if not, auction it off. But that's just me..... what everyone else does with theirs is gonna hafta be up to them.

Amputate Your Head · 05-17-2002, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
Imposed sets would help by giving them to designers on launch date. Nobody gets ahead.

but that doesn't really matter...... it's only supposed to be a week.... and most.... (I say most....) designers can easily put out killer work in a week or less. So, if someone wants to get a head start, that's fine..... it doesn't matter. If it was only "you got 3 hours to come up with the best you can!" then it would matter.... but since it's a week.... time isn't really an influencing factor here, and it just doesn't matter. Plus.... someone might have an issue with that week and need to get it done beforehand in order to play.

SetTheWorldonFire · 05-17-2002, 09:07 AM

I want in!

SetTheWorldOnFire representing: YoungHoes.Net

I would love to have a content provider sponsor me. *wink* *wink*

cherrylula · 05-17-2002, 09:09 AM

Ya know, since this is the first contest of this kind here, perhaps it should stay nice and open.... allow everyone to pick their own content, niche, domain.

If something gets fucked up, second time 'round it can be changed. I doubt this will be the first *and* last contest of this kind here, agreed?

I think a lot of people see that there is quite a bit of competition, but keeping this fun and interesting I think setting restrictions would suck big donkey dick, and personally I would like to see everyone's serious skills and tastes in what they produce. This is not about who can make one certain set of content look the best, this is about who's got some serious skills and creativity to put together a badass tour. Like Amp said, like a CAR SHOW! Do you really want to see all these talented people use the same set of pictures to make a tour? That is so fucking boring, how is someone supposed to find their inspiration? yuck.

I want to see ART, not who can make the same pussy pics look the best.

Anyone 'round here that is truly an artist will agree.

shunga · 05-17-2002, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
I'm willing to hand mine over to a prize sponsor if it gets that far, and if not, auction it off. But that's just me..... what everyone else does with theirs is gonna hafta be up to them.

I personally think auctioning the tours is an opportunity to do something good, and it also diffuses any bad feeling that might come out of this. Any kind of competition has the potential for that. And it also would make a good comparison between the voting and what actually sold. If a designer doesn't like the idea, they don't have to enter.

Fletch XXX · 05-17-2002, 11:46 AM

Do people sell the cars at Car Shows?
Auction them off?

Maybe some do, but most take em home and show em to friends or in this case, Im gonna put my tour where it belongs, on its domain, as it should be, then we can talk about the "conversions" of these sites months from now, or have an Annual GFY Graphics Showdown and we can discuss the progress of the sites who won the previous year and how theyre conversions were throughout the year... if we wanted to.

When I first got wind of this, it sounded cool, geez it sounds like its becoming more pain than fun now. Stop with all the girly shit, you guys sound like a bunch of women throwing a Tupperware party who cant decide on a sandwich spread.

Quit worryin' bout what happens to the tour, mine's gonna be uploaded to its real domain and the member section will be built upon the end of this thing... get this thing back to "design" I'm anxious to do something NOT like the people ask for, for a change.

I am looking forward to finally making MY OWN fucking kick ass site, you gotta realize, though we design, we design for others. This time around IM designin for ME, my game, my content, and my prizes ;)

Working in the Art world over a decade now I can tell you every Art show I have curated artists always have pieces NOT FOR SALe, in this case, my tour will Not Be For Sale or Auction...

Sit back enjoy the show, make some contacts, like any other event, and let the pieces be hung on whoevers wall the artist chooses, in this case cologroup.

baremuffin · 05-17-2002, 11:48 AM

Well said, Fletch

*insane raucous applause*

M

Amputate Your Head · 05-17-2002, 11:49 AM

like I already said.... what you do with your tour after the fact is up to you. You're not getting paid for this tour, so it's not like anyone can force you to do something with it. Hell, you can delete it if you want..... I don't care.

baremuffin · 05-17-2002, 11:59 AM

*Modification of original reply*

I should have added that EVERYTHING* I do is for sale ;)

*insert necessary and appropriate disclaimers here

M

shunga · 05-17-2002, 12:00 PM

Well, it seemed a chance to do something different, but with all the prizes, all the free content, it just seems like a designers promo deal. Good luck with it anyway.

nocostporn · 05-17-2002, 12:04 PM

eh...does this thread count as a "longest thread of the week"? lol NOT FAIR

Fletch XXX · 05-17-2002, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
like I already said.... what you do with your tour after the fact is up to you. You're not getting paid for this tour, so it's not like anyone can force you to do something with it. Hell, you can delete it if you want..... I don't care.

Ah okay bro, sorry this thread is getting hard to fllow, everytime I check it, it seems people are still argiong bout the same shit even though the issues I guess have been addressed hehehe my bad...

Amputate Your Head · 05-17-2002, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
eh...does this thread count as a "longest thread of the week"? lol NOT FAIR

is there another one that's close or something?

DexterD · 05-17-2002, 12:19 PM

Sounds like a great tradition is starting in June!

Count me in.

Dexter

ICQ: 82509196

Amputate Your Head · 05-17-2002, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DexterD
Sounds like a great tradition is starting in June!

Count me in.
Dexter

ICQ: 82509196

you're in.

baremuffin · 05-17-2002, 12:22 PM

The only thing longer than this thread is my dick...

Oh wait, that must be yours, I don't have one!

Michelle

Amputate Your Head · 05-17-2002, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baremuffin
The only thing longer than this thread is my dick...

Oh wait, that must be yours, I don't have one!

Michelle

you need penis pills....

Fletch XXX · 05-17-2002, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DexterD
Sounds like a great tradition is starting in June!

Count me in.
Dexter

ICQ: 82509196

Yeah June the 6th month, my birthday month too, good month it truly is.

The middle of the year, the beginning of change,...

oh Amp while my stoned ass rambles... so in the end we gotta hand over a zipfile and the tour will be uploaded by someone and set up? Or will we each be alowed a ftp in or what? This is the only thing I havnt thought about or really seen established ....

baremuffin · 05-17-2002, 12:28 PM

Hah, with a clit like mine, who NEEDS a penis?

Bloussant, now if that works, that'd be a different story...

M

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05-17-2002, 03:08 AM	#455
baremuffin Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 54	I'm going to die a jealous and unfulfilled woman if you get that goth content, Amp I dont' know enough people to know who to ask, so I guess good luck and run with it :o) I'd figured I'd do something up MY alley for this, since for once a client isn't calling the shots or setting the limits, but then I crawled into my content trove and lo and behold... it's all pretty mainstream, not really my 'thing' at all, lol... tons of blow jobs, tons of anal, tons of group (dp and a2m even), lots of ebony, lots of girl/girl, lots of tits, big and small, and facial cumshots galore... but I want goth, or heavy duty bdsm. Not even any fisting sigh Ah well, I'll probably crawl back to pornstars... it's easy to make them look good giggle Then, in the morning, I'm up to BEG one of my clients to shoot me some good gothic shit... or just to shoot me! crawls back under rock M __________________ Does not play well with others...

05-17-2002, 03:16 AM	#456
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Oh boy, oh boy, boy! This is gonna be swell! __________________ ..and I'm off.

05-17-2002, 03:24 AM	#458
BadBoyBill4281 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 616	here is the GFYdesign contest site http://www.opticalamplitude.com/showdown/index.html __________________ ICQ#128496425 www.swinginglocal.com

05-17-2002, 03:29 AM	#459
mule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hamsterdam Posts: 6,085	Dammit, when will I get the time? Life is too hectic lately. But I wanna do it anyway TeenGodFather Hypo Nina Bhuto Lickshots redshift amp Sabai va2k Vegasdude AdultWebGraphics Fletch XXX Tylo XXXPaysiteDesign Andrew@XPD Brut Tabster MetaformX GotGauge alias DamnFineOnline Hyper baremuffin/MinXxX mule Am I in now? This thread is too damned long __________________ Converting like a mofo

05-17-2002, 03:34 AM	#460
spanky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 231	TeenGodFather Hypo Nina Bhuto Lickshots redshift amp Sabai va2k Vegasdude AdultWebGraphics Fletch XXX Tylo XXXPaysiteDesign Andrew@XPD Brut Tabster MetaformX GotGauge alias DamnFineOnline Hyper baremuffin/MinXxX mule spanky cheers

05-17-2002, 04:11 AM	#462
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	if that helps at all.. or saves you a $$$ exclusive shoot..

05-17-2002, 04:20 AM	#463
pornsuite Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 651	ok, im in this shit.

05-17-2002, 06:32 AM	#465
baremuffin Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 54	The non-spoofy (if that's even a fucking word) gothic or 'dark' themed porn I've found is either too staged, like the pornstars in 'gothy' outfits you spoke of before, or campy, like those "gore" sites I've seen around once or twice... with martians, and vampire nuns and stuff. It's fun, I love it because it's different, but it's not GOTH like I want GOTH - I guess that takes either REAL goth chicks, or girls that have pale skin, dark hair, and who can fake the goth look without looking completely out of their element whilst also managing to be sexy and possibly be boned - apparently, not an easy find ;) Hopefully inspiration will still strike, even without yummy gothy fun... but if anybody has some yummy gothy fun they'd want to sponsor in this contest, I'll take it Otherwise, it's pornstars or lesbians... or maybe oral... see, I can't even make a bloody decision! If anybody's having a really hard time scraping content together but really wants to do this, let me know, I may be able to help you out. Happy Friday folks! Don't party too hard, believe me waking up on the second Monday without knowing it can be a serious pain in the @$$ - or head, however you prefer. Remember, the real party is NEXT weekend Michelle __________________ Does not play well with others...

05-17-2002, 06:36 AM	#466
Brian911 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 654	I strongly vote for "preset" niches AND content because it WILL be most interesting (at least from my point of view) to see what they made of it. It's also much easier to compare that way.. 5 niches to choose from sounds good. and the web voting is a bad idea IMHO. perhaps lensman is able to find some kind of "board add-on" for invisible voting results, and of course only those who registered before 15/5 will be allowed to vote.. this way "cheating" is probably still possible but it simple WOULDNT HURT as much as a "hitbot" for web voting because there are so many hundreds of board members who can and will vote... if some designer asks his buddies to vote for him to get the $3000 tv it does not really matter for the final result (this_thread = top) __________________ - Brian [ a directive occured while processing this error ]

05-17-2002, 07:17 AM	#467
baremuffin Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 54	I could see some people feeling their creativity 'stifled' by not being able to use their own judgement and taste in selecting photographic materials to build a tour with, despite the argument that in a 'real' situation with a 'real' client they'd theoretically be 'limited' to what the client had onhand. However, I'd imagine most designers, like myself, take only clients with subject matter reasonably interesting to themselves; I wouldn't take a scat site, for example, because I wouldn't be able to create a site appealing to the end-user, because to me it's completely offputting. I also feel no qualms about asking the photographers and/or videographers I work for/with for specific material to use in the future for design, promo, whatever. So, limiting the content wouldn't really establish 'reality' or a more level playing field; at least, I don't think so, and we've already sort of agreed that since this is a graphic design showdown, there's already a lack of 'realism' inherent because in the real world, it's not about how pretty it is, it's about how well it converts. Limiting the content seems even more unfair when you read through the thread and see how many people are actually willing to share content, even if for the contest only, which in itself levels the playing field by allowing everybody some sort of access to something they like, something that inspires them, and something that reflects their style and taste and creativity. With the new trend in 'ultraniche' categories (balloons, anyone?) exactly who gets to choose WHICH five categories we finally settle on? I could see going with overly general categories, i.e. hardcore, fetish, gay, amateur, but then what becomes important enough to be number five? Lesbian could legitimately be pushed under gay; anal, oral, toys, cumshots, fucking, group all fall under hardcore; fetish covers anything from balloons to butts to piss; maybe the fifth category could be ethnic sites? If so, that might work, it'd still let everyone choose pretty much freely, if you'd consider blonde/brunette/redhead 'ethnic' just like ebony, interracial, asian, and latin... Unless you broke it down like that, I don't know how you could fairly choose five strict 'categories' (what, no group interracial trannie insertion category?), and really, does the category of the site even matter (as long as it's LEGAL, of course!)? If we delineate the entries like that, it brings the apples/oranges argument back again. Keeping it simple and open to interpretation is sort of the fun part, I think. Flash and plug-ins aside, this is an artistic free-for-all and on some level, I personally figure the less regulation of ideas and the creative process, the better results we're all going to have, the more fun it will turn out to be, and, I'd bet, in the end it'll turn out to be quite a profitable 'game' for many of us, in some form or another. Ok that was long winded. Sorry. Just my thoughts... and apparently, there's WAY TOO MANY of them flitting around in there. Michelle PS - (Added a minute later) - Don't you think it'd be interesting to see if anybody came up with something really out there like MenstruatingMoms.com or even SatisfyingShitSex.net? Though the chance is an outside one, it will be interesting to see which categories people gravitate toward, and how far some will bother going with it Yes, I need sleep. That much is obvious, even to me __________________ Does not play well with others... Last edited by baremuffin; 05-17-2002 at 07:22 AM..

05-17-2002, 07:39 AM	#468
batdelfuego Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 56	I want to register... in the flash category... My name is batdelfuego from www.dconvulsions.com email: [email protected] Thanx! __________________ ..::Adult Convulsions \|\| Adult entertainment design::.. www.aconvulsions.com www.dconvulsions.com ICQ# 8830035 \| AIM: batdelfuego Last edited by batdelfuego; 05-17-2002 at 07:40 AM..

05-17-2002, 08:02 AM	#469
0zzy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 505	Is there still 2 categories? Flash and Non-Flash, because it look like there is more and more designer welling to do the free tour in flash. __________________ Ozzy

05-17-2002, 08:12 AM	#470
Houdini Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,651	I think we decided that there would be a flash category, but only for show. Since there is only one grand prize, we're going with the original rules that said no flash for competition. There's a lot of thread here so I may have missed something, but that was last that I read on it. Last edited by Houdini; 05-17-2002 at 08:14 AM..

05-17-2002, 08:18 AM	#471
MikeEP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 464	I thought i would add my 2cents to this showdown you guys are having. From other contests that i've see, (and i think a few people already pointed this out), the contestants are usually given one niche, and all the same content...choosen by the officials. The officials should choose the niche, and the content. On a certain day, everyone in the contest can download the zip file to the contains the content...say, 20 different sets in the zip file. No contestant knows the niche, or whats inside the zip file until that day.... this avoids pre planning. Once they get the content, and the niche, then they design. This makes the content totally even as eveyone uses the same content and niche. A contest like thisis meant to show the creativity of each person, and how they use the content that were given. Thus, this IS what this contest is about from what iv'e read. I personally would love to see how 15 different designers choose to design with all the same content. When your able to be given content from providers, and choose your own niche, it really makes no sense in my opinion. You guys have talked about having the voting without showing results because it's "sways" peoples judgement. Well, what about different niche's? It does the same thing. If a contestant did a teen niche, and another one choose a mature niche, people are most likey going to "sway" towards there favorite niches...thus making the voting uneven. A true contest is this: On a certain day choosen by the officials, you go to webpage that is given out to each contestant. This is where the contestants find out the niche they will be designing, and download a zip file which contains the content that the officials choosen...(for that niche obviously). A week later, the designs are do and people vote. If there's any ties, the official make the final vote, or hold a second contest for the people who tied. Anyway, just

05-17-2002, 08:33 AM	#475
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	yeah i realized that after i posted, houdini what i said was phrased towards you.. but i meant to the the flash designers etc that wanted to use it __________________ https://porncorporation.com

05-17-2002, 08:35 AM	#476
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	I just woke up here..... damn..... I got some fresh reading to do i guess

05-17-2002, 08:40 AM	#477
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	don't know if it's been noticed here, but I posted linkage on AWI and soon on other boards to attract even more designers Keep up the great work guys !

05-17-2002, 08:46 AM	#478
baremuffin Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 54	I'd love to see a flash showcase... I dabble a little, but not as much as I should, and some of the things you can do with it are great. It'd be wonderful to see sites run and designed completely in flash rather than just flash splash grahpics or non-interactive use of flash... nav, menus, sales pitches, dynamic copy, etc. - is that what calibur of work you guys are going to be doing? I'm very curious Michelle __________________ Does not play well with others...

05-17-2002, 08:55 AM	#480
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	I understand where you guys are coming from with the fixed sets/fixed niche thing..... but this is turning out to be pretty huge... do you really wanna look at 30 or 40+ versions of the same site? Wouldn't it be much more interesting to see a wide array of differeent stuff? How does that make it unfair? If you're doing a tour that you personally got a groove for, I kinda think that would promote everyone's BEST work.... and isn't that what we really wanna see? Even if someone picks a bizarre niche.... if they're good at doing that niche, the tour should be smokin'..... we DO have judges for this, and they're not going to base a final decision on one or another because they don't like "Gay" or something.... they're responsible enough to know that it's about the design of the tour and not their own personal sexual preferences. Have some faith here.....

05-17-2002, 08:58 AM	#481
SetTheWorldonFire Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 7,444	Imposed sets would help by giving them to designers on launch date. Nobody gets ahead. __________________ www.STWOFDesign.com hit me up on icq 154206276 or Skype: JaimeGizzle

05-17-2002, 09:07 AM	#484
SetTheWorldonFire Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 7,444	I want in! SetTheWorldOnFire representing: YoungHoes.Net I would love to have a content provider sponsor me. wink wink __________________ www.STWOFDesign.com hit me up on icq 154206276 or Skype: JaimeGizzle

05-17-2002, 09:09 AM	#485
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Ya know, since this is the first contest of this kind here, perhaps it should stay nice and open.... allow everyone to pick their own content, niche, domain. If something gets fucked up, second time 'round it can be changed. I doubt this will be the first and last contest of this kind here, agreed? I think a lot of people see that there is quite a bit of competition, but keeping this fun and interesting I think setting restrictions would suck big donkey dick, and personally I would like to see everyone's serious skills and tastes in what they produce. This is not about who can make one certain set of content look the best, this is about who's got some serious skills and creativity to put together a badass tour. Like Amp said, like a CAR SHOW! Do you really want to see all these talented people use the same set of pictures to make a tour? That is so fucking boring, how is someone supposed to find their inspiration? yuck. I want to see ART, not who can make the same pussy pics look the best. Anyone 'round here that is truly an artist will agree.

05-17-2002, 11:46 AM	#487
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Do people sell the cars at Car Shows? Auction them off? Maybe some do, but most take em home and show em to friends or in this case, Im gonna put my tour where it belongs, on its domain, as it should be, then we can talk about the "conversions" of these sites months from now, or have an Annual GFY Graphics Showdown and we can discuss the progress of the sites who won the previous year and how theyre conversions were throughout the year... if we wanted to. When I first got wind of this, it sounded cool, geez it sounds like its becoming more pain than fun now. Stop with all the girly shit, you guys sound like a bunch of women throwing a Tupperware party who cant decide on a sandwich spread. Quit worryin' bout what happens to the tour, mine's gonna be uploaded to its real domain and the member section will be built upon the end of this thing... get this thing back to "design" I'm anxious to do something NOT like the people ask for, for a change. I am looking forward to finally making MY OWN fucking kick ass site, you gotta realize, though we design, we design for others. This time around IM designin for ME, my game, my content, and my prizes ;) Working in the Art world over a decade now I can tell you every Art show I have curated artists always have pieces NOT FOR SALe, in this case, my tour will Not Be For Sale or Auction... Sit back enjoy the show, make some contacts, like any other event, and let the pieces be hung on whoevers wall the artist chooses, in this case cologroup. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

05-17-2002, 11:48 AM	#488
baremuffin Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 54	Well said, Fletch insane raucous applause M __________________ Does not play well with others...

05-17-2002, 11:49 AM	#489
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	like I already said.... what you do with your tour after the fact is up to you. You're not getting paid for this tour, so it's not like anyone can force you to do something with it. Hell, you can delete it if you want..... I don't care.

05-17-2002, 11:59 AM	#490
baremuffin Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 54	Modification of original reply I should have added that EVERYTHING* I do is for sale ;) *insert necessary and appropriate disclaimers here M __________________ Does not play well with others...

05-17-2002, 12:00 PM	#491
shunga Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Loveland Posts: 994	Well, it seemed a chance to do something different, but with all the prizes, all the free content, it just seems like a designers promo deal. Good luck with it anyway. __________________ Clockwork Cash - ICQ: 355-26-288 / Email: admin AT clockworkcash DOT com Asian Paysites : Exclusive Content : NATS or CCBill Thai Cuties : Shave Asians : JAVondemand

05-17-2002, 12:04 PM	#492
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	eh...does this thread count as a "longest thread of the week"? lol NOT FAIR

05-17-2002, 12:19 PM	#495
DexterD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 19	Sounds like a great tradition is starting in June! Count me in. Dexter ICQ: 82509196 __________________ RaptorLabs Design Studio

05-17-2002, 12:22 PM	#497
baremuffin Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 54	The only thing longer than this thread is my dick... Oh wait, that must be yours, I don't have one! Michelle __________________ Does not play well with others...

05-17-2002, 12:28 PM	#500
baremuffin Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 54	Hah, with a clit like mine, who NEEDS a penis? Bloussant, now if that works, that'd be a different story... M __________________ Does not play well with others...