My last .XXX thread - please read

[woj]

150..........

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by jayeff

...Simply to survive, people entering the business now have to be more professional than their predecessors. So from among those who are successful, over our second decade likely will come people who understand the importance of protecting their environment as well as attending to their immediate concerns. I guess we just have to hope that enough of the ceiling stays put until then.

another brilliant post by jayeff.


Fight the east coast bump!

[polish_aristocrat]

341 emails, we should get to 500 before May 10th

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

341 emails, we should get to 500 before May 10th

it should be over 1,000.. but the issue is to not stack the results by posting with several different email addresses just to get the number up, but rather, let the webmasters speak their mind.

If you have to do that, then those tactics are no better than what .XXX supporters have done.

This is about free-will, this is about doing what is right. If webmasters can't stand for themselves, then they get what they deserve.

on the flipside, i can understand that wanting to do anything possible to ensure that .XXX doesn't go through is in self-interest and of the greater good, and therefore some self-justification in wanting to "stack the votes" by posting from multiple email addresses.

there should literally be thousands of affiliate webmasters posting up, who would have been contacted by their paysites to act. Same with webmaster resource boards.

ICANN may not be making a final decision on May 10th, but i believe that May 10th is the end of the (second) public comment period.

What is a little good news, is that the pro .XXX side seems to have not heard about the open period, since there are very few pro .XXX posts

Fight the apathy!

[TheLegacy]

the adult industry is the few armies left that actually shoot its own wounded. There cant be much of an uproar and a united voice when we are all fighting amongst ourselves !

sadly, many just leave it up to the few who actually do give a shit to sort out the problem. Only until the industry looses does the webmaster community (who will feel it in the pocket book) get up and start doing something - in this and other situations - it just may be too late.

[nofx]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

I forgot to add that the only reason .XXX will pass is solely decided by money.

Money is rdy to create .xxx.
No Money is rdy to stop it.

What I mean is that the inaction is purely based on the fact that there is NO MONEY in taking action opposing it. Give people 30 bucks to write up somthing to oppose it and then the matter would change significantly. But really thats impossible, there is no real return investment to be made from doing such on an individual level.

VERY VERY valid post

post of the fuckin' year

[seeric]

341 posts now to the icannn website


lets keep it going

[seeric]

alien you nailed it on the head my friend.

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by alienq

there is no real return investment to be made from doing such on an individual level.

actually, that is sadly wrong.

the phrase "united we stand, divided we fall" was created to illustrate that each individual person does have a part to play.

The "cost" for a paysite/resource board to send a mass emailing to their affilliates/members: $0

The "cost" for a webmaster to take 2 minutes to write an email to ICANN to express their feelings on .XX: $0

Showing a unified stance: priceless


the "return on investment" for being a part of a large voice is huge. the "return on investment" of postig up and still having .XXX get approved, is still huge.

Silence is golden, only for crying children, for adults who don't stand up and take issue with factors that affect them, is shameful.



Fight the PSA!

[seeric]

i just sent them this


.XXX is about money and taking advantage of a situation, nothing more nothing less. Those behind .XXX are opportunists, nothing more nothing less. The facts are that .XXX will not protect kids from pornography on the Internet. .XXX will not stop the bad CP people either. I am sure that ICANN has extremely intelligent people driving the ship, and can see right through the veil of "false desire" that those in favor of .XXX are painting for them. Lets hope that they are not swayed by the deceitful tactics of those who are planning to line their pockets with the results of a decision opposed by the majority in the online adult theatre. Many online adult webmasters are afraid of the spotlight, but are greatly opposed to .XXX. Those of us who are not afraid of standing up for the rest of the industry should be counted as exponential voices for those that are not willing to publicly post their views and positions for fear of future retaliation or exploitation. For every one of us that are making public comments, there are 99 behind us that will not publicly post their opinon. .XXX is a coup of sorts, with the full intention being greed. I have been involved in online adult marketing since 1999 and this is one of the most abhorrent displays of brute thuggery that I have had the displeasure of experiencing. .XXX serves no positive intent. .XXX has many detrimental ripple effects. We respectfully request that ICANN really take a look at the intentions of those behind .XXX and not allow their presented falsities and deception to sway a decision in favor of those motivated by money. .XXX is bad for everyone in so many ways. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Regards
A very concerned webmaster.

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

.XXX will not stop the bad CP people either.

i think only we use the term CP

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

i think only we use the term CP

some law enforcement use KP "Kiddie Porn".

as with any use of abbreviations in correspondance, always best to define your abbreviation the first time you use it, in order to avoid confusion.

i.e. child pornography ("CP")


Fight the reason that abbreviation is a long word to describe a short word!

[titmowse]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

341 posts now to the icannn website


lets keep it going

Make that 349

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by titmowse

Make that 349

awesome post you made!


Fight the .XXX!

[titmowse]

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

awesome post you made!


Fight the .XXX!

Let's hope there are many more posts.

I recommend all webmasters read W3C's Ian Jacobs on the .xxx TLD:

http://www.w3.org/2004/03/28-tld

[seeric]

i got the confirmation email and replied to it and clicked the confirm link too, how long does it take to get the reply posted?

[titmowse]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i got the confirmation email and replied to it and clicked the confirm link too, how long does it take to get the reply posted?

took about 4 hours for mine to show up after initial mailing. about a half hour after confirmation.

[mardigras]

Originally Posted by AkiraSS

Idiots thinking that they can grab .XXX extensions from someone that has already the .com or .net should get the heads out of their asses, you won't be getting shit so don't sleep on that ear.

While someone would not be able to register and run playboy.xxx and get away with it, I seriously doubt the owners of generic word domains will be getting the .xxx versions of those sites unless there are "behind the scenes" pre-.xxx release negotiations, and even if that becomes the case it would only be bigger players. Domains like movies.xxx will be gone to insiders before .xxx registration is ever open to the public.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by titmowse

took about 4 hours for mine to show up after initial mailing. about a half hour after confirmation.

coool, i almost started a SCAMMER - SHAVING thread

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

coool, i almost started a SCAMMER - SHAVING thread

yours is up now..

just saw jay from ynot post up.. short and to the point:

Shame on anyone who thinks that .XXX is a solution for protecting children online from adult material. This responsibility falls fairly and squarely on the parents. There is a ton of filtering technology out there... use it. If you want something truly effective to protect children from viewing adult online material, do the following:
1. Monitor your kids' surfing habits
2. Employ the use of filters
3. Support a .KIDS TLD




Fight the heads up!

[seeric]

we need at least 500 replies in that forum. go do it now!

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

we need at least 500 replies in that forum. go do it now!

yes, but not from spamming... individual webmasters (not from each of their domains) should be writing in.

paysites, email your affiliates to focus on this issue.

webmaster resource sites, email your members to mobilize.

they should email their responses to:
[email protected]

background info:

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/xinfo.htm (don't use the signup form on that page, send email directly to [email protected]

http://www.fightthedotxxx.com

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=9854486

ICANN board may close by May 10th for their next meeting:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld...ent/index.html

Fight the postage!

[MikeHawk]

BUMP......



Vote = Email to Icann


No vote: Bend over NO LUBE


When did you ever think your vote did not count......and why would ICANN open up the topic for discussion and put the brakes on .XXX?

[scardog]

Thanks Brandon! You are fighting the good fight. Email sent.

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by scardog

Thanks Brandon! You are fighting the good fight. Email sent.

thanx, but the fight right now is against apathy... from affiliate webmasters to paysite owners to resource boards.

if on such a no-brainer issue that the community can't come together, then it really brings to question what will.

an update to the familar saying, inspired by the the low turnout in posting to ICANN:

"individually we stand, divided we fall"

or

"united we aren't, divided we are"




Fight the rim shot!

[Redrob]

You should be very concerned of the combined "loss of net neutrality" being used in combination with the XXX-TLD to screw this industry....bigtime!

In today's Washington Post, a story about how the telecoms and cable companies want to change the way the internet operates by removing the requirement that all packets are treated the same:

"A Gated Net"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050400175.html

While writing ICANN, take a moment and write your Congressman as well:

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

[FightThisPatent]

383 posts to ICANN.



Fight the bump!

[FightThisPatent]

Fight the not much else to say!

[FightThisPatent]

Reed Lee just posted up to ICANN:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00392.html

with an incredibly well written response to why .KIDS is the best way to protect children on the internet.

Excellent reading for those also on the same bandwagon that .KIDS is the better TLD.


Fight the .GFY!

[MikeHawk]

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

Reed Lee just posted up to ICANN:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00392.html

with an incredibly well written response to why .KIDS is the best way to protect children on the internet.

Excellent reading for those also on the same bandwagon that .KIDS is the better TLD.


Fight the .GFY!

Brandon, thank you for making us all aware of this....

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

Reed Lee just posted up to ICANN:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00392.html

with an incredibly well written response to why .KIDS is the best way to protect children on the internet.

Excellent reading for those also on the same bandwagon that .KIDS is the better TLD.


Fight the .GFY!

im lost

why is that post titled

"In support of XXX"

[seeric]

.kids wont make anyone any money. you can't charge www.woofyslearningcenter.com a fucking 100 dollars for a domain name. plain and simple money is the root of the xxx evil. of course these people know that .kids is a way better option, but where is the money? its not in .kids, its in fucking over the .com adult market, thats where its at.

[Big John]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

.kids wont make anyone any money. you can't charge woofyslearningcenter dot com a fucking 100 dollars for a domain name. plain and simple money is the root of the xxx evil. of course these people know that .kids is a way better option, but where is the money? its not in .kids, its in fucking over the .com adult market, thats where its at.

That's the sad and pathetic thing about all this. The misguided moral brigade (many of the moral right have at least enough sense to realise that .xxx isn't the answer) who support .xxx are too dumb to realise that the end result is their children will be more 'at risk' so that people can line their pockets. It has nothing at all to do with protection of children or anyone else.

The only others in favour are those that will make a killing financially from it. These range from some of the bigger porn companies around to (obviously) the various registration companies.

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

im lost

why is that post titled

"In support of XXX"

maybe to get someone who was just dying to find a pro .XXX argument, something to educate them on a better solution.

Fight the .xxx!

[Jimmer]

So whats the idea, we have to give up our domains and buy these domains? Porn will not be allowed on any other domain?

[MikeHawk]

Originally Posted by Jimmer

So whats the idea, we have to give up our domains and buy these domains? Porn will not be allowed on any other domain?

Yup...





i am sure the Govt will help things along with "heavy handed" enforcement also....

[tony286]

kudos to Lars one of the few big fish with balls.

[MikeHawk]

Originally Posted by tony404

kudos to Lars one of the few big fish with balls.

Yup...that is what makes a Legend!



.XXX Decision Could Come as Early as Wednesday
An ICANN meeting May 10 could make the proposed .XXX top-level domain a reality sooner than anticipated. Or, the behind-the-scenes maneuvering could continue.
http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=14817 <http://xbiz.servport.com/users/link.php?LinkID=11208&UserID=14654&Newsletter=3107 &List=7&LinkType=Send>

[seeric]

that threaded board needs to hit 500. get on it peoples.

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

that threaded board needs to hit 500. get on it peoples.

425 so far

[polish_aristocrat]

btw ICANN site just updated, as i posted here

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/607471-icann-response-gac-communique-recent-communication-xxx-update.html

[FightThisPatent]

posted on ICANN by Tom Hymes:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00412.html

(The following letter is posted with the permission of Larry Flynt. The
link is to a .jpg of the letter. - Tom Hymes)


http://www.freespeechonline.org/webd...rXXXLetter.jpg


April 2006

Dear ICANN Representatives,

Speaking on behalf of my company, Flynt Management Group, LLC I would
like to state my opposition to the creation of a dot xxx top level
domain (TLD), which I believe represents a direct threat to freedom of
speech on the Internet. Legislation was recently introduced in the U.S.
senate that will create a mandatory .xxx TLD, and in Australia a law has
been proposed that would institute ISP-level filtering of adult content.
Even if these individual initiatives fail, they have convinced me that
is it inevitable that government will continue to try to impose a
regulatory scheme on dot xxx that is unnecessary and unconstitutional.

Flynt Management Group, LLC has been a leader in the adult entertainment
industry for 32 years. As a producer of high quality adult products made
by adults for adults, my company has helped make this industry the
legitimate business it is today. I am dedicated to supporting a
responsible working environment that conforms to the laws of the land,
and actively support efforts to make the Internet safe for children,
paticularly through education, good business practices, and by
advocating the use of filtering technologies, which have become
increasingly effective and easy to use.

But dot xxx is an inherently dangerous idea with no real purpose. Only
if it becomes a tool of censorship will it achieve its goal of
preventing access to adult content by minors, and if it falls short of
that goal, what reason for it was there for it in the first place,
especially if alternative methods and tools can achieve the same
results. This industry is open to all solutions to making the Internet
a safer and freer place, but dot xxx is not one of them.

Because of these concerns and others, I respectfully request that ICANN
reject the current ICM Registry application.

Sincerely,

Larry Flynt
President

[Scottie Apples]

For anyone that is thinking of Pre-registering a .xxx domain. You should read this...
http://www.icmregistry.com/pre-registration.html

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by Scottie Apples

For anyone that is thinking of Pre-registering a .xxx domain. You should read this...
http://www.icmregistry.com/pre-registration.html

yup, they posted that up, because there were several registrars taking pre-orders, when they had no right to do so.. some had no refund policies, so ICM's message was a good one.


I believe that WHEN .XXX fails,that ICM/IFFOR continue their efforts by pushing ICANN for the .KIDS TLD.

All the principals that IFFOR created for .XXX are well suited for .KIDS (minus the part of having ONE adult directors seat).

ICM could be the registry and IFFOR can help to monitor the policies for .KIDS

People like Parry Afstab fit in perfectly, and they can still get their "grants" and funding, but this time, through the sale of .KIDS domains.

They would have spent all their money and time, that they could salvage things by pushing for .KIDS They expressed last year at the FL show that there wasn't enough interest nor money to be made with .KIDS

I think they are wrong.

I thnk that ICM could, ironically, get alot of support from the adult biz to run the .KIDS TLD.

WHEN .XXX gets knocked down by ICANN, if ICM doesn't want to step to take on the .KIDS TLD, then we'll just all lobby Network Solutions to do it.


Fight the plan 9 from outer space!

[davecummings]

To Brandon and the others who have so adroitly helped us see the light these past couple of weeks, I say THANKS!!!!

Dave Cummings

[MikeHawk]

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

yup, they posted that up, because there were several registrars taking pre-orders, when they had no right to do so.. some had no refund policies, so ICM's message was a good one.


I believe that WHEN .XXX fails,that ICM/IFFOR continue their efforts by pushing ICANN for the .KIDS TLD.

All the principals that IFFOR created for .XXX are well suited for .KIDS (minus the part of having ONE adult directors seat).

ICM could be the registry and IFFOR can help to monitor the policies for .KIDS

People like Parry Afstab fit in perfectly, and they can still get their "grants" and funding, but this time, through the sale of .KIDS domains.

They would have spent all their money and time, that they could salvage things by pushing for .KIDS They expressed last year at the FL show that there wasn't enough interest nor money to be made with .KIDS

I think they are wrong.

I thnk that ICM could, ironically, get alot of support from the adult biz to run the .KIDS TLD.

WHEN .XXX gets knocked down by ICANN, if ICM doesn't want to step to take on the .KIDS TLD, then we'll just all lobby Network Solutions to do it.


Fight the plan 9 from outer space!

hahahaaa....

Go Brandon, good for you buddy, like your style, good stuff.....


Now what i want to know is this:

Lazy or just stupid?
Which is it that makes webmasters NOT POST against .XXX?

I was just wondering...lol



NO TO .XXX

[AkiraSS]

Big No to .XXX

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by AkiraSS

Big No to .XXX

[CrazyAL]

Morning bump for the cause :food-smil

[FightThisPatent]

Some notable posters to ICANN recently speaking out against .XXX:

Richard Nash, Silvercash
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00440.html

Tanker
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00439.html

Easton
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00408.html

Raffi
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00398.html



The full list is at:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld...ent/index.html
(473 posts as of this post)

Fight the and now back to your regularly scheduled posting!