My last .XXX thread - please read

[FightThisPatent]

On May 10th, ICANN will convene again to talk about .XXX that should have been nailed down 2 years ago, but the response from the adult community was seriously lacking.

Two years later, .XXX is closer to becoming a reality, because on the whole, it appears that ICM Registry has been able to prove with their letters and whatever evidence of support, that the adult community supports .XXX, thus achieving one of the main ICANN directives of being able to demonstrate constituency.

All the chatter and talk the last 2 years clearly shows that the adult community DOES NOT WANT .XXX, but the voices have not been heard for the volumne that it represents, but instead, more of a mouse peep from a very few who been talking outloud about this subject.

What has been sadly missing, is that paysite owners and webmaster resources sites haven't emailed their affiliates/members who are just as affected by all of this, to get involved, to post up as companies and individuals to take a stand, that we can't even get 1,000 webmasters to post up to [email protected] to visually demonstrate that .XXX is not wanted.

The few responses up at ICANN are great for those that posted, but it really
sends the wrong message by the lack of numbers posting.

As much a fuss as a few of us have publically made, ICANN can look at the
lack of large responses as a sign that ICM must indeed have support of the
adult community.

Lawley stated in an interview at AVNonline that over a thousand adult webmasters wrote in their support for .XXX.

How shameful that we can't even refute that claim by getting 1,000 webmasters to even post up against .XXX.

I don't blame the "industry leaders" that are involved in backing .XXX at all... its business to them, and it will be business as usual if .XXX gets
approved.

Where those that did support .XXX start to feel the consequences of their
short-sighted greed, is when legislation is imposed or .XXX is used to cause
harm.

I am sure those early supporters didn't think through this in the long term,
but for them, it won't matter.. they have made their money, and they can
survive whatever happens while everyone else is left holding the shit-bag.

This .XXX issue really underscores the lack of unity or cohesiveness and operating in complete self-interest.

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The sad fact is that as a whole, the industry will get what it deserves
through its greed. It is unfortunate that all the many good business people
that i know, will get tossed under the same ill-gotten consequences imposed
by a minority, and validated by a majority of mindless/silent/apathetic
webmasters.
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Sending an email to: [email protected] which shows up at:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/

could have little effect on .XXX, if .XXX is already a forgone conclusion by ICAAN, but it will atleast demonstrate to the industry (and to those who have been active in the fight for what is right) that there is some hope that when the bell is rung, webmasters will come forward.

Anyone who has a mailing list, could email that list with info about being a part of the petition against .XXX by companies and individuals sending an email to [email protected].

Be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem.


and that's all i have to say 'bout dat.


Fight the Gump!

[jimthefiend]

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

My last .XXX thread

I don't believe you.

[davecummings]

This IS indeed EXTREMELY important for us to do NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by jimthefiend

I don't believe you.

LOL.. i will try hard to make it so.... you can only say the same things over and over for only so long... plus, this .XXX thing is getting closer to being approved, or finally crushed....

If .XXX gets approved,the implications and consequences will be self-explaining.


Fight the last words!

[Manowar]

bump for you dude, this needs to be read

[NoCarrier]

Originally Posted by davecummings

This IS indeed EXTREMELY important for us to do NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave

Fuck this.. I want to see "Would you hit it threads". Fuck this .XXX shit.. WHO FUCKING CARES.

[Harley Girl]

Brandon,

You have done a great thing speaking out about the .XXX -

It's the same thing i tell MikeHawk, it takes courage to go against the people behind this, and both of you have certainly shown it.
While eveyone has sat back and just watched this whole thing go down both of you were fighting along with others and trying to get everyone to see that if they only spoke out against it we could have fought and put it to bed a long time ago. Let's hope that we can beat this...

Thank you to both of you and everyone else involved in fighting for being so concerned about our industry and making a stand.

Harley Girl!

[NoCarrier]

Originally Posted by Manowar

bump for you dude, this needs to be read

[polish_aristocrat]

if this is your last thread about .xxx, I will make another 5 one ;)

well, actually i wont, there are a good few of them already, I feel bumping them has the same effect as starting a new one

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

whats so funny?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Manowar

bump for you dude, this needs to be read

Did you send an email?

[SomeCreep]

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

On May 10th, ICANN will convene again to talk about .XXX that should have been nailed down 2 years ago, but the response from the adult community was seriously lacking.

Dont worry, just ignore the problem and it'll go away.

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Dont worry, just ignore the problem and it'll go away.

[insert ostrich picture here]

or

[insert baghdad bob]




Fight the thousand words!

[MikeHawk]

Brandon,
Dumb ....that is all I can say......most on this board or other boards cant even begin to understand what this is, fly?s so far over there heads.

So you really can?t get mad, upset or disappointed at people who clearly have no clue.

Sad really, .XXX said to me to my face at Internext Florida this past year...."they adult industry online will never unite to fight us on this one" ....they were right.

So all the folks that sit on the panels at shows claiming to be experts, blah blah blah......blah blah blah....what advise or how do you explain why you were absent when the chips were down and the industry had its ass in the air?

Quote me:

"If .XXX passes, it will be the silver bullet that kills our industry or hurts it to the point of a serious limp"

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Brandon,
Dumb ....that is all I can say......most on this board or other boards cant even begin to understand what this is, fly?s so far over there heads.

i can understand affiliate webmasters not paying attention, but surely, paysite owners have or should.. and are in a position to contact their affiliates to get them to do some action.


Fight the bell ringing!

[TheGoldenChild]

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Brandon,
Dumb ....that is all I can say......most on this board or other boards cant even begin to understand what this is, fly?s so far over there heads.

So you really can?t get mad, upset or disappointed at people who clearly have no clue.

Sad really, .XXX said to me to my face at Internext Florida this past year...."they adult industry online will never unite to fight us on this one" ....they were right.

So all the folks that sit on the panels at shows claiming to be experts, blah blah blah......blah blah blah....what advise or how do you explain why you were absent when the chips were down and the industry had its ass in the air?

Quote me:

"If .XXX passes, it will be the silver bullet that kills our industry or hurts it to the point of a serious limp"

I believe I was the first to point out to you that webmasters don't unite, they are self serving-
I voiced my concerns- as did many people I know, sadly it will fall on deaf ears.

[GatorB]

Anyone that is for .XXX should be shot in the head. Seriously they should. PERIOD. So what do you pro .XXX fuckers have to say about that BIATCHES?

[MikeHawk]

Originally Posted by kBizzle

I believe I was the first to point out to you that webmasters don't unite, they are self serving-
I voiced my concerns- as did many people I know, sadly it will fall on deaf ears.

kBizzle....how are you my fine friend....hope all is well.


and you were right also.....

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Anyone that is for .XXX should be shot in the head. Seriously they should. PERIOD. So what do you pro .XXX fuckers have to say about that BIATCHES?

that's extreme... those that support and have financial gain from .XXX is purely their business.

the .XXX supporters aren't the problem, neither is ICM Registry for putting forth the application... the problem lies with those that are against .XXX, and have not spoken up.

Some say they didn't, because they fear retaliation.

To some degree, that could be true, but there are plenty of instances were business bridges got burned, and business was still done later.

If someone was going to cut off biz relationships because of an opposiing viewpoint you have.. then you are better off that it happened.

If supporters of .XXX make a ton of money, great for them. If .XXX fails, those .XXX supporters have other income streams, that it would have been just one stream of many that didn't make out.


Fight the red dot!

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by kBizzle

I voiced my concerns- as did many people I know, sadly it will fall on deaf ears.

since you missed out on the first round to ICANN.. why not get in on this last round?

email to: [email protected]



Fight the walk!

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

that's extreme... those that support and have financial gain from .XXX is purely their business.

And how does the mob take care of a threat to thier business matters? A shot to the head. See so it's all business.

the .XXX supporters aren't the problem, neither is ICM Registry for putting forth the application... the problem lies with those that are against .XXX, and have not spoken up.

Anyone that threatens me deserves to die, PERIOD.

I leave you a lone you leave me alone everything is cool. You fuck with me you die.

[MikeHawk]

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

since you missed out on the first round to ICANN.. why not get in on this last round?

email to: [email protected]



Fight the walk!

[MikeHawk]

Originally Posted by GatorB

And how does the mob take care of a threat to thier business matters? A shot to the head. See so it's all business.



Anyone that threatens me deserves to die, PERIOD.

I leave you a lone you leave me alone everything is cool. You fuck with me you die.

This quote fits nicely here:

"THE PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD"


IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE

[Temp1]

Originally Posted by kBizzle

I believe I was the first to point out to you that webmasters don't unite, they are self serving-
I voiced my concerns- as did many people I know, sadly it will fall on deaf ears.

I disagree with the negativity. I think instead of saying webmasters will not listen, perhaps someone can make it very clear why we should listen in very simple terms.

1. What is .XXX and what will it do?

2. Why do the 'big players' support .XXX when it actually harms the industry?

3. I want to send an email. What should it say?

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by Temp1

I disagree with the negativity. I think instead of saying webmasters will not listen, perhaps someone can make it very clear why we should listen in very simple terms.

1. What is .XXX and what will it do?

2. Why do the 'big players' support .XXX when it actually harms the industry?

3. I want to send an email. What should it say?

it has been explained tens of times in past two years

everyone including you should know it already. If GFY is a board to do biz for adult webmasters, then everyone visiting this place more or less regularly and concerned about this, would have found out and read the several threads about it already.

Im not going to explain it again, maybe someone else will, or you can just read the posts made on ICANNs site already or check out the FSC site.

[Temp1]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

it has been explained tens of times in past two years

everyone including you should know it already. If GFY is a board to do biz for adult webmasters, then everyone visiting this place more or less regularly and concerned about this, would have found out and read the several threads about it already.

Im not going to explain it again, maybe someone else will, or you can just read the posts made on ICANNs site already or check out the FSC site.

Thanks for that, however, if we believe there is a lack of support then emphasizing the obvious will only be beneficial, don't you think.

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by Temp1

Thanks for that, however, if we believe there is a lack of support then emphasizing the obvious will only be beneficial, don't you think.

i have posted links and info about .xxx here:

http://www.fightthedotxxx.com/

of info from FSC:
http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/xinfo.htm



Fight the cliff notes!

[yota71]

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

Fuck this.. I want to see "Would you hit it threads". Fuck this .XXX shit.. WHO FUCKING CARES.

Thats the problem, because of tudes like that you may not have any pics to look at soon. Keep up the good work...

[pornguy]

I just sent off an e-mail.

[pornguy]

Very sadly there are only 101 mails in the archive there.

[NoCarrier]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

whats so funny?

I replied "Manowar" style.

[NoCarrier]

Originally Posted by yota71

Thats the problem, because of tudes like that you may not have any pics to look at soon. Keep up the good work...

Read the following link and slap yourself in the face for being so gullible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

[CaptainWolfy]

blah what to say ....

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by empty1987

blah what to say ....

Post what YOU think about .XXX

I dont' like the idea of using a form letter or template... better to have you express your feelings on the subject, rather than using some else's words.

The words you could use could contain: ".XXX is a bad idea. .KIDS TLD is a better way to protect kids"


Fight the putting of words in your mouth!

[Babagirls]

email sent!!!!

[Dirty Dane]

Ironically, the spammers that send thousands of emails can't send one single email to oppose .xxx ... and tomorrow their spam will be worthless. Not that most want and like spam, but it makes you think, doesn't it?

[RogerV5]

i can't wait... i already have reserves on http://www.sex.xxx

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

At this point and for the last year, there is not one single adult webmaster that has not learned or heard about .XXX. Its in AVN, Its in XBIZ, It's been in the mainstream news numerous times in Print and The Net and in Mainstream broadcast.

The concept that adult webmasters are not aware of .XXX is naive.
The concept that apathy has taken hold and they are to lazy to post something is again... naive.

That oughtah speak volumes about what the industry as a whole wants and will get. I involved myself rather deeply with the subject with well over 2000 posts on this forum alone and several others.

At the end of it all I oppose .XXX but I know the out come as I have said for two years. .XXX will be a reality for the simple reason that our community is loaded with retards and lazy morons that are seldomly if ever on the same page. The "Anti Establishment", "Misfit" factor will always rule this community and make it easy pray for not only things like .XXX but numerous things to come and the proof is the numerous things that have already passed.

I speak from experience and pride myself in knowing the nature of the scumbags that rule over others in this industry. You are fucking victims waiting to be taken advantage of. Too stupid to realise you are being eaten alive while trying to corner a couple bucks for yerselves in any manor possible.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I forgot to add that the only reason .XXX will pass is solely decided by money.

Money is rdy to create .xxx.
No Money is rdy to stop it.

What I mean is that the inaction is purely based on the fact that there is NO MONEY in taking action opposing it. Give people 30 bucks to write up somthing to oppose it and then the matter would change significantly. But really thats impossible, there is no real return investment to be made from doing such on an individual level.

[Booty Bucks]

Just emailed them Fuckers!

[Redrob]

The combination of XXX TLD and loss of "net neutrality" will seriously affect your revenues as ISPs slow or block access for liability reasons. Look at all the heat Google is getting right now about making money off the adult industry.......times gonna change.

Do something positive and send a letter today....after all, its your business at stake.

[Helix]

email sent

[davecummings]

Unless we win this battle against .xxx, this could well end up being the death of our present businesses as we know them.

PLEASE send an email to [email protected] NOW!!!!

Dave

[Babagirls]

bumpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by davecummings

Unless we win this battle against .xxx, this could well end up being the death of our present businesses as we know them.

PLEASE send an email to [email protected] NOW!!!!

Dave

Nothing dies, it is only reborn.

Labor is a bitch.

[vittle]

email sent!

[NoCarrier]

I sent an e-mail asking when .XXX would be available to the general public. Is that ok?

[d00t]

going to borrow a bit of this thread to get some support

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by Babagirls

bumpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

[FightThisPatent]

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

I sent an e-mail asking when .XXX would be available to the general public. Is that ok?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/asshat




but seriosly, posting has certainly increased (http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/) , but still have 900 short to counter ICM's supposed "1,000 adult webmasters" who wrote in support of .XXX


Fight the sarcasm!