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Old 05-05-2006, 09:12 AM   #1
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Another Drunken Kennedy

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Capitol Police is investigating how officers handled an auto accident involving Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-Rhode Island, and whether the evidence would support traffic charges.

The investigation also will look into whether proper procedures were followed in the initial probe of the crash, which happened early Thursday, a police statement said.

Kennedy, son of Sen. Ted Kennedy, said Thursday he was apparently disoriented by medication when he crashed his car into a barricade on Capitol Hill.

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Old 05-05-2006, 09:14 AM   #2
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Oh, so they're calling it "medication" these days.
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:22 AM   #3
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Just like father, just like son.

I wonder if a girl was involved this time.
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:25 AM   #4
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I hate it when peope assume something. He said it was from Ambien and another drug, which is plausible, though no alcohol test is suspect, but you assume he was drunk with no evidence.
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:01 AM   #5
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I hate it when peope assume something. He said it was from Ambien and another drug, which is plausible, though no alcohol test is suspect, but you assume he was drunk with no evidence.
I assume it's because of the legendary drinking exploits that run in the family.
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:16 AM   #6
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Yeah those damned democrats. You'd NEVER hear about BUSH or any of his kids being invovled in drunken driving!
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:42 AM   #7
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I hate it when peope assume something. He said it was from Ambien and another drug, which is plausible, though no alcohol test is suspect, but you assume he was drunk with no evidence.
Leave your politics at home ... put you or I in his place ...

It's 2:45 AM ... single car accident ... car was swerving into wrong lane ... car hits a curb ... speeding ... lights are off ... don't stop for pursuing police ... hits barrier head first ... eyes red ... speech slurred ... balance off ... appeared to have been drinking ...

At the scene ... 2 patrolmen ... 2 sergeants ... conference with watch lieutenant ... Decision NOT to give Kennedy a sobriety test ... The 2 patrolmen drive Kennedy home ...

You or I would still be in jail. DUI = driving under the influence, he obviously was under some kind of influence ...
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It's a little known fact to be considered a true Kennedy you need to maintain an alcohol level of .15 at all times.
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:07 AM   #13
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Leave your politics at home ... put you or I in his place ...

It's 2:45 AM ... single car accident ... car was swerving into wrong lane ... car hits a curb ... speeding ... lights are off ... don't stop for pursuing police ... hits barrier head first ... eyes red ... speech slurred ... balance off ... appeared to have been drinking ...

At the scene ... 2 patrolmen ... 2 sergeants ... conference with watch lieutenant ... Decision NOT to give Kennedy a sobriety test ... The 2 patrolmen drive Kennedy home ...

You or I would still be in jail. DUI = driving under the influence, he obviously was under some kind of influence ...
It's not politics. I'm tired of people assuming things without all the facts. There is no real evidence he was drunk. You and the media just assumed it. He may have been drunk, but he's innocent until proven guilty.
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It's not politics. I'm tired of people assuming things without all the facts. There is no real evidence he was drunk. You and the media just assumed it. He may have been drunk, but he's innocent until proven guilty.

Since when republicans need proof ....
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It's not politics. I'm tired of people assuming things without all the facts. There is no real evidence he was drunk. You and the media just assumed it. He may have been drunk, but he's innocent until proven guilty.
What's to assume? Was he was driving while fucked-up or not? What, just because he said it wasn't alcohol everything is OK?

He normally drives like this? Or was he driving under the influence of alcohol OR drugs? ... Keep it a yes/no question. And yank his fucken license!
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:28 AM   #16
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What's to assume? Was he was driving while fucked-up or not? What, just because he said it wasn't alcohol everything is OK?

He normally drives like this? Or was he driving under the influence of alcohol OR drugs? ... Keep it a yes/no question. And yank his fucken license!
I didn't say it was ok. I'm just arguing with the title of this thread and all the innuendos that he was driving drunk without proof or hard evidence. Everyone just automatically assumed it. There are a lot of prescription drugs out there that can make you appear drunk. I think they should have given him a breathalizer, but they didn't and therefore there's no proof. I'm upset at the media for jumping on everything political with little evidence and assuming something. Even non-political, there are a lot of people that are targeted by the media, smeared and they end up innocent. Just because someone "appears" drunk doesn't mean they are drunk.

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Old 05-05-2006, 11:32 AM   #17
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I didn't say it was ok. I'm just arguing with the title of this thread and all the innuendos that he was driving drunk without proof or hard evidence. Everyone just automatically assumed it. There are a lot of prescription drugs out there that can make you appear drunk. I think they should have given him a breathalizer, but they didn't and therefore there's no proof. I'm upset at the media for jumping on everything political with little evidence and assuming something. Even non-political, there are a lot of people that are targeted by the media, smeared and they end up innocent. Just because someone "appears" drunk doesn't mean they are drunk.
two cops smelled alcohol on him
witnesses seen him in a bar drinking.
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It's not politics. I'm tired of people assuming things without all the facts. There is no real evidence he was drunk. You and the media just assumed it. He may have been drunk, but he's innocent until proven guilty.
On another note, "innocent until proven guilty" This will NOT apply to Kennedy since a political decision was made to NOT give him a sobriety test OR drive him to a hospital for a blood test.

Now we have to ASSUME because his status makes him above the laws and procedures you and I are accountable to.
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:35 AM   #19
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Who's the one playing politics here? I didn't start this thread.
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two cops smelled alcohol on him
witnesses seen him in a bar drinking.

uh.. where did you get that? and where is it in the article you posted? it's not.... and even if someone said that, doesn't mean it's true...
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:39 AM   #21
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its been all over the news all day. wakeup.
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I didn't say it was ok. I'm just arguing with the title of this thread and all the innuendos that he was driving drunk without proof or hard evidence. Everyone just automatically assumed it. There are a lot of prescription drugs out there that can make you appear drunk. I think they should have given him a breathalizer, but they didn't and therefore there's no proof. I'm upset at the media for jumping on everything political with little evidence and assuming something. Even non-political, there are a lot of people that are targeted by the media, smeared and they end up innocent. Just because someone "appears" drunk doesn't mean they are drunk.

Don't be naive. Based on his special treatment, if he was capable of passing a breath test cops at the scene would have been instructed to have him take one.

There's even a band named after drunk Kennedys !!!


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There are people out there that say Bush is an alcoholic and cocaine addict. Does that automatically make it true? He sometimes talks and acts like an alcoholic...
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its been all over the news all day. wakeup.
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There are people out there that say Bush is an alcoholic and cocaine addict. Does that automatically make it true? He sometimes talks and acts like an alcoholic...
WTF? You are drifting everywhere ... Stay on topic. Answer one of my questions.

REMEMBER, BOTH parties get special treatment. Right now another Kennedy just made the news ...
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WTF? You are drifting everywhere ... Stay on topic. Answer one of my questions.

REMEMBER, BOTH parties get special treatment. Right now another Kennedy just made the news ...
I'm making a point. If you don't get how it relates to this argument, then you are drifting everywhere. Just because someone appears to be drunk, doesn't mean they are!
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Breaking news says he's addicted to drugs and will check into rehab. "NOT ALCOHOL".
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Breaking news says he's addicted to drugs and will check into rehab. "NOT ALCOHOL".
You are a fucking half-wit .....
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You are a fucking half-wit .....
how so? you guys said he was drunk from alcohol....
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how so? you guys said he was drunk from alcohol....

No, I said he was "driving while fucked-up" and alcohol makes no difference!

Kennedy said he was not driving drunk, my whole point was so what?

He was DUI and received very special treatment, that is wrong.
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No, I said he was "driving while fucked-up" and alcohol makes no difference!

Kennedy said he was not driving drunk, my whole point was so what?

He was DUI and received very special treatment, that is wrong.

The person who started this thread said implied it with words like "Drunken" and then others said they heard people say he smelled of alcohol, without providing any links, let alone to any credible, objective news agency. etc. etc. Then I said there's no proof and then you accused me of playing politics. Why don't you accuse the person who started this thread of playing politics? You are a Kennedy hater and biased, so you didn't....

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and you said drinking....

It's 2:45 AM ... single car accident ... car was swerving into wrong lane ... car hits a curb ... speeding ... lights are off ... don't stop for pursuing police ... hits barrier head first ... eyes red ... speech slurred ... balance off ... appeared to have been drinking
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fuck it all I don't have time to waste in an endless argument....
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read the title of thread : DRUNKEN ...

Now go flip-flop ...
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and you said drinking....

It's 2:45 AM ... single car accident ... car was swerving into wrong lane ... car hits a curb ... speeding ... lights are off ... don't stop for pursuing police ... hits barrier head first ... eyes red ... speech slurred ... balance off ... appeared to have been drinking
For the last damn time ....This is what I posted

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Leave your politics at home ... put you or I in his place ...

It's 2:45 AM ... single car accident ... car was swerving into wrong lane ... car hits a curb ... speeding ... lights are off ... don't stop for pursuing police ... hits barrier head first ... eyes red ... speech slurred ... balance off ... appeared to have been drinking ...

At the scene ... 2 patrolmen ... 2 sergeants ... conference with watch lieutenant ... Decision NOT to give Kennedy a sobriety test ... The 2 patrolmen drive Kennedy home ...

You or I would still be in jail. DUI = driving under the influence, he obviously was under some kind of influence ...

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"appeared to have been drinking" was on the police report .. GOT THAT? Not my opinion, from the police report. And he still was not tested!

It was one of the many reasons he should not have been driven home instead of jail ...

You or I would not receive the same break ... that was and has been my only point ..... LATER


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This really needs to be a 10 page thread - it's so much more important than anything else in Washington.
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