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poe · 04-30-2006, 10:20 AM

change is what this country is built on, how can you be against it?

anti-immigration is unpatriotic.

Tom_PM · 04-30-2006, 10:30 AM

I think most people are anti-illegal-immigration.

It's not the immigration part, it's the illegal part that is screwed up.

Dagwolf · 04-30-2006, 10:32 AM

The people on the Mayflower didn't have to go through INS. They didn't pass a citizenship test. They just moved in and took some land.

psili · 04-30-2006, 10:40 AM

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I think most people are anti-illegal-immigration.

It's not the immigration part, it's the illegal part that is screwed up.

Exactly.

The ILLEGAL part is the issue.

KRL · 04-30-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

The people on the Mayflower didn't have to go through INS. They didn't pass a citizenship test. They just moved in and took some land.

Exactly. And in the process they also began the slaughter of the native American people that WERE here before us.

That's what pisses me off hearing people bitch about immigrants in today's world. All these people bitching seem to have forgotten how they came to be here.

I really could care less about the guys standing at home depot waiting for jobs to cut grass when we have real issues like the middle east to deal with.

This whole immigration thing was designed to distract and take the heat off the Iraq war dissatisfaction and everyone knows it.

stickyfingerz · 04-30-2006, 10:43 AM

The reason they have to do it illegally is the cost and hoops you must jump through are impossible for a poor immigrant to overcome. I went through it with my wife and that was pre 911. Im sure its much worse now. Make the immigration legal process easier, and less costly, and we wont see as many illegals.

CDSmith · 04-30-2006, 10:46 AM

Why do people keep leaving out the key word "illegal" in their threads on this?

I don't know anyone who has a problem with immigration.

Tom_PM · 04-30-2006, 10:51 AM

Yes I agree for once with sitckyfingers. The legal process used to take about 7 hours on ellis island. I dont know how we can make a good streamlined system now, but surely we can do better! I'm all for people coming here all day and night long, just not illegally..

stickyfingerz · 04-30-2006, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Yes I agree for once with sitckyfingers. The legal process used to take about 7 hours on ellis island. I dont know how we can make a good streamlined system now, but surely we can do better! I'm all for people coming here all day and night long, just not illegally..

My only reason for allowing a bit of ammnesty is because we are the ones that fucked up the system, and made it impossible for the exact people that we are supposed to take in. "Give us your tired, your hungry, your poor." We made it impossible for that to happen. The people that are here now were just doing the thing that was best for their families. Anyone of us in the same situation would of done the same.

If you couldnt find a way to feed your kids where you are living you surely would move to wherever you could provide for them. The largest percentage of illegals are not here to commit crimes. I think the gangs and thugs out in Cali and a few other areas have really brought down all Mexicans. Mexicans living in this area are some of the most polite people I know. I worked for years in auto parts and dealt with them on a daily basis. I never had a conflict with one of them. However I had many conflicts with white people who think they deserve something simply because of being born.

Manowar · 04-30-2006, 10:59 AM

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Exactly. And in the process they also began the slaughter of the native American people that WERE here before us.

That's what pisses me off hearing people bitch about immigrants in today's world. All these people bitching seem to have forgotten how they came to be here.

I really could care less about the guys standing at home depot waiting for jobs to cut grass when we have real issues like the middle east to deal with.

This whole immigration thing was designed to distract and take the heat off the Iraq war dissatisfaction and everyone knows it.

candyflip · 04-30-2006, 11:06 AM

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Libertine · 04-30-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Why do people keep leaving out the key word "illegal" in their threads on this?

I don't know anyone who has a problem with immigration.

If you restrict immigration so much that legal immigration becomes almost impossible for most, the problem is not illegal immigration, but immigration in general. The laws themselves, which cause the "illegal" part, are what's being questioned by those questioning immigration policy.

minusonebit · 04-30-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by poe

change is what this country is built on, how can you be against it?

anti-immigration is unpatriotic.

Nice attempt at taking a play from Bush's playbook.

stickyfingerz · 04-30-2006, 11:16 AM

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Nice attempt at taking a play from Bush's playbook.

Hold on there. I always thought that Republicans were against immigration, and democrats were for it....

Yet you are against Bush for being pro immigration? WTF!!

AmateurFlix · 04-30-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

The reason they have to do it illegally is the cost and hoops you must jump through are impossible for a poor immigrant to overcome. I went through it with my wife and that was pre 911. Im sure its much worse now. Make the immigration legal process easier, and less costly, and we wont see as many illegals.

Perhaps the reason it is so difficult to enter legally is to deter such a massive influx of immigrants as would otherwise occur. This isn't 1860 anymore, there are around 300 million people in this land already... bringing more people in to (mostly) water down the competition for low paying jobs doesn't really make sense now in the same way it used to.

RhiannonAPM · 04-30-2006, 11:25 AM

Most of the gang members that are mexican are mexican-americans anyways. Born and raised here and most by illegal immigrant parents. I don't believe it should be so hard for them to come over here but it also takes us 3-6 months to get a passport to go somewhere else. Just my

DBS.US · 04-30-2006, 11:27 AM

The people on the Mayflower didn't come over and say give me free services, give me free money, I can't pay my rent so give me a free law services to get to stay free in my rented home. I don't have to follow the laws of the land. I don't need car insurance, I am a poor illegal immigrant.

stickyfingerz · 04-30-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RhiannonAPM

Most of the gang members that are mexican are mexican-americans anyways. Born and raised here and most by illegal immigrant parents. I don't believe it should be so hard for them to come over here but it also takes us 3-6 months to get a passport to go somewhere else. Just my

Thats not true at all. I got mine expedited in less than 4 days.

stickyfingerz · 04-30-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

The people on the Mayflower didn't come over and say give me free services, give me free money, I can't pay my rent so give me a free law services to get to stay free in my rented home. I don't have to follow the laws of the land. I don't need car insurance, I am a poor illegal immigrant.

That angle would work if ONLY illegal immigrants did those things.

AmateurFlix · 04-30-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

That angle would work if ONLY illegal immigrants did those things.

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

"I don't have to follow the laws of the land"

by definition ALL illegal immigrants do that

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escorpio · 04-30-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

That angle would work if ONLY illegal immigrants did those things.

You mean they don't all do that? Damn. Spewing that garbage makes it so much easier to be a racist.

AmateurFlix · 04-30-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

You mean they don't all do that? Damn. Spewing that garbage makes it so much easier to be a racist.

if you had some understanding of the language of the country you are living in, you would understand what the term 'illegal' means

psili · 04-30-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

You mean they don't all do that? Damn. Spewing that garbage makes it so much easier to be a racist.

Escorpio man... I was going to write yet another evil post about population control around the world, the necessity to maintain a healthy carrying capacity of environmental systems and shit like that, but fuck it.

I can see where your views are coming from and I respect that you seem to care about people who are only trying to find a better life. Cuz' that's respectable. I'll keep my jaded views about humanity as a whole outside of the immigration debate and hope you keep fighting the good fight man...

l8r.

minusonebit · 04-30-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Hold on there. I always thought that Republicans were against immigration, and democrats were for it....

Yet you are against Bush for being pro immigration? WTF!!

No, Bush is the one always the one using patriotism to accuse his opponents of being unAmerican. And I am against Bush for being for illegal immigration.

CDSmith · 04-30-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

If you restrict immigration so much that legal immigration becomes almost impossible for most, the problem is not illegal immigration, but immigration in general. The laws themselves, which cause the "illegal" part, are what's being questioned by those questioning immigration policy.

I know all that. I just wish guys would stop calling people "anti-immigration" when they're not.

That's all.

crockett · 04-30-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by poe

change is what this country is built on, how can you be against it?

anti-immigration is unpatriotic.

No one is anti-immigration.. We just want them to enter this country legally just like every other country modern world would expect.

RhiannonAPM · 04-30-2006, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

No one is anti-immigration.. We just want them to enter this country legally just like every other country modern world would expect.

Exactly!!

stickyfingerz · 04-30-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

No, Bush is the one always the one using patriotism to accuse his opponents of being unAmerican. And I am against Bush for being for illegal immigration.

When and who did Bush accuse of being unpatriotic again? Link me that. Or is it something you created in your libby brain?

Nyght · 04-30-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

That angle would work if ONLY illegal immigrants did those things.

That angle works just fine. We shouldn't be footing the govt. services bill inflated by illegals. Those services are for "hard working" americans.

seven · 04-30-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

if you had some understanding of the language of the country you are living in, you would understand what the term 'illegal' means

uhmm.. killing, raping, drug-dealing, going to war based on lies are illegal but so are taking a right turn without stopping when the red light is on, making an U turn at intersection with No U trun sign on, doing 66 on 65 m/h speed zone, smoking cigarrettes in no-smoking zone, public flashing, peeing roadsides or small allies, z-crossing streets etc. so maybe you'd wanna tell us which meaning of 'illegal' you're referring to in your own language?

Or is it just some kinda big bad illegal? Oh Man! Shit! I forgot to stop at the stop sign by my house today.. thou it was an empty street but PLEASE handcuff me I've done a BIG BAAD ILLEGAL thing

AmateurFlix · 04-30-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by seven

uhmm.. killing, raping, drug-dealing, going to war based on lies are illegal but so are taking a right turn without stopping when the red light is on, making an U turn at intersection with No U trun sign on, doing 66 on 65 m/h speed zone, smoking cigarrettes in no-smoking zone, public flashing, peeing roadsides or small allies, z-crossing streets etc. so maybe you'd wanna tell us which meaning of 'illegal' you're referring to in your own language?

Or is it just some kinda big bad illegal? Oh Man! Shit! I forgot to stop at the stop sign by my house today.. thou it was an empty street but PLEASE handcuff me I've done a BIG BAAD ILLEGAL thing

If you are trying to compare breaking through borders into a foreign land with minor traffic violations, you're an idiot. Laws exist for a reason and these people have demonstrated time and again that they are unwilling to follow them. They are aware that what they are doing is wrong and they continue to do it anyway - do you think that is the type of person that should be let into this country?

escorpio · 04-30-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

if you had some understanding of the language of the country you are living in, you would understand what the term 'illegal' means

I have an excellent understanding of the language of the country I was born in, thank you. I understand that the word "illegal" is used to simplify a complex issue so people with limited mental capacity can be swayed to the anti-Mexican cause.

AmateurFlix · 04-30-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

I have an excellent understanding of the language of the country I was born in, thank you.

Ah, you mentioned your plans to move to Mexico in a prior post, it sounded like you were planning to 'return' there. But you obviously do not have an understanding of the English language.

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I understand that the word "illegal" is used to simplify a complex issue so people with limited mental capacity can be swayed to the anti-Mexican cause.

Here is a concept for you to try to wrap your little head around. There are some actions which are legal, and there are some that are illegal.

There is nothing complex at all about choosing to step over a border and violate immigration laws. Stay on one side of the border, it's legal. Step into the other, and it is not. It is really that simple. Obviously you have difficulty with this concept, but if you think about it, perhaps some day you'll understand it.

You can practice it yourself if you'd like, draw a line in your backyard and pretend one side is Mexico and the other the US. Just keep jumping back and forth and repeating 'this is legal' and 'this is illegal'. With practice, you might get the hang of it.

People who try to claim that something this simple is a 'complex' issue are simply trying to make excuses for criminals and nothing more. The "Mexican cause" as you put it is by definition inconsequential to countries other than Mexico. When people arrive here, they need to follow the laws of this land.

Your lesson is over today, feel free to go back to your constant squaking of the words "racist" "xenophobic" when they are not appropriate, something else you seem skilled at.

Screaming · 04-30-2006, 03:16 PM

Bush is a fuck up.

escorpio · 04-30-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

Ah, you mentioned your plans to move to Mexico in a prior post, it sounded like you were planning to 'return' there. But you obviously do not have an understanding of the English language.

Here is a concept for you to try to wrap your little head around. There are some actions which are legal, and there are some that are illegal.

There is nothing complex at all about choosing to step over a border and violate immigration laws. Stay on one side of the border, it's legal. Step into the other, and it is not. It is really that simple. Obviously you have difficulty with this concept, but if you think about it, perhaps some day you'll understand it.

You can practice it yourself if you'd like, draw a line in your backyard and pretend one side is Mexico and the other the US. Just keep jumping back and forth and repeating 'this is legal' and 'this is illegal'. With practice, you might get the hang of it.

People who try to claim that something this simple is a 'complex' issue are simply trying to make excuses for criminals and nothing more. The "Mexican cause" as you put it is by definition inconsequential to countries other than Mexico. When people arrive here, they need to follow the laws of this land.

Your lesson is over today, feel free to go back to your constant squaking of the words "racist" "xenophobic" when they are not appropriate, something else you seem skilled at.

Here's a game YOU can play in your backyard...

Draw a line. Have a family member sit on one side, you sit on the other. On your side have lots of food, shelter and the other basic necessities of life. On the other side give them nothing. How long will it take before they cross over to your side for their own survival, regardless of how illegal you say it is?

I've tried to simplify it as much as I can for you. Have fun playing!

AmateurFlix · 04-30-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Here's a game YOU can play in your backyard...

Draw a line. Have a family member sit on one side, you sit on the other. On your side have lots of food, shelter and the other basic necessities of life. On the other side give them nothing. How long will it take before they cross over to your side for their own survival, regardless of how illegal you say it is?

I've tried to simplify it as much as I can for you. Have fun playing!

Not my problem.
Not going to let it become my problem.
Don't want to see it become the problem of my country either, any more than it already is.

The Mexicans need to take care of their own problems in their own country, not import poverty to this country illegally. I have no sympathy for those who try to do so or those who encourage it.

For now the people involved in that situation have been treated very generously by the US and simply ignored or forcibly moved back where they belong. This is obviously not enough of a deterrent, so more appropriate measures are being enacted. Quit bitching about it and show loyalty to your own country instead of Mexico.

escorpio · 04-30-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

Not my problem.
Not going to let it become my problem.
Don't want to see it become the problem of my country either, any more than it already is.

The Mexicans need to take care of their own problems in their own country, not import poverty to this country illegally. I have no sympathy for those who try to do so or those who encourage it.

For now the people involved in that situation have been treated very generously by the US and simply ignored or forcibly moved back where they belong. This is obviously not enough of a deterrent, so more appropriate measures are being enacted. Quit bitching about it and show loyalty to your own country instead of Mexico.

But it IS your problem or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I am loyal to my own country. That does not mean I have to be a raging hate filled nationalist that doesn't care about the impoverished people of a neighboring country. I love the U.S. and I love Mexico.

Matt 26z · 04-30-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by poe

change is what this country is built on, how can you be against it?

anti-immigration is unpatriotic.

I challenge you to find me ONE American who is anti-immigration.

This is about illegal immigration and the Mexican belief that they should be at the front of the line. There is an astronomical number of people living in poverty around the world who are much worse off than Mexico.... Why don't they get to come to the front of the line if this is about aiding people?

BoyAlley · 04-30-2006, 03:40 PM

I'm not Anti-Immigration, just Anti-Mexicans.

Grapesoda · 04-30-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by poe

change is what this country is built on, how can you be against it?

anti-immigration is unpatriotic.

imagration and illegal aliens are 2 unrelated issues

Michaelious · 04-30-2006, 03:44 PM

well america is full of immigrants

seven · 04-30-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

If you are trying to compare breaking through borders into a foreign land with minor traffic violations, you're an idiot. Laws exist for a reason and these people have demonstrated time and again that they are unwilling to follow them. They are aware that what they are doing is wrong and they continue to do it anyway - do you think that is the type of person that should be let into this country?

Duh! You have any idea what kinda law these border crossers are violating? In your little head they maybe that BIG BAAD LAW BREAKERS but in reality it's not much more than violating an immigration law which is no felony but merely a civil offence. We are always well aware that violating traffic laws are wrong and could even cost lives but we still do it anyways if we are for whatever reason in a hurry getting somewhere. By your logic laws exist for a reason and we have demonstrated time and again that we are unwilling to follow them therefore, i don't think we should be let stay in this country. Now they even got better reasons than what we usually violate traffic laws for it's called "bring food to the table for onself and his family". But hey who cares lets deport all lawbreakers, everybody including you and me

(and oh! with the exception of my grandma she's a super careful driver, even drives 1/2 the speed of max limit lol)

AmateurFlix · 04-30-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

But it IS your problem or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I am loyal to my own country. That does not mean I have to be a raging hate filled nationalist that doesn't care about the impoverished people of a neighboring country. I love the U.S. and I love Mexico.

No, what you proposed is NOT my problem.
My family is here and they are not starving or looking for excuses to break the laws of a foreign country. You proposed a situation that encompasses the above. LEARN ENGLISH

Why is it that you think a person who doesn't care about the people of Mexico is a 'raging hate filled nationalist'? Does that make it easier for you to dismiss the validity of their concerns? If you understood english properly then you would understand that if one doesn't care about a group, then by definition they don't hold hatred for them either.

stickyfingerz · 04-30-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyght

That angle works just fine. We shouldn't be footing the govt. services bill inflated by illegals. Those services are for "hard working" americans.

Umm the Hard working Americans with no health insuance right?

stickyfingerz · 04-30-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

Not my problem.
Not going to let it become my problem.
Don't want to see it become the problem of my country either, any more than it already is.

The Mexicans need to take care of their own problems in their own country, not import poverty to this country illegally. I have no sympathy for those who try to do so or those who encourage it.

For now the people involved in that situation have been treated very generously by the US and simply ignored or forcibly moved back where they belong. This is obviously not enough of a deterrent, so more appropriate measures are being enacted. Quit bitching about it and show loyalty to your own country instead of Mexico.

Funny thats what many Republicans say about welfare, yet if we say "Not my problem" we are heartless racist bastards.

AmateurFlix · 04-30-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by seven

Duh! You have any idea what kinda law these border crossers are violating? In your little head they maybe that BIG BAAD LAW BREAKERS but in reality it's not much more than violating an immigration law which is no felony but merely a civil offence.

Exactly. The problem is that the laws do not provide punishment commensurate to the crimes that are being committed.

What is being discussed by our government is turning these into felony offenses so that the violators would not be treated so kindly. The laws and the consequences of breaking these laws are not effective against these people. When most visitors come to the USA they behave as most visitors do when travelling to any foreign country. They are grateful for being received and abide by the laws of the country they enter.

These people do not.

Therefore they need to be dealt with more severely.

seven · 04-30-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

If you understood english properly then you would understand that if one doesn't care about a group, then by definition they don't hold hatred for them either.

I dunno why but I have a feeling that he does understand english atleast better than you lol. If one doesn't care about just a certain group and speaks up against them over and again then by definition of racism makes him a racist. Therefore, I'm guessing you you'd like to be called a RACIST over anti-immigrant?

stickyfingerz · 04-30-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I challenge you to find me ONE American who is anti-immigration.

This is about illegal immigration and the Mexican belief that they should be at the front of the line. There is an astronomical number of people living in poverty around the world who are much worse off than Mexico.... Why don't they get to come to the front of the line if this is about aiding people?

There is an easy way to find one. Get a cat by the tail.. swing it... Hit 3 people with it, one of them probably is pure anti immigration.

escorpio · 04-30-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

No, what you proposed is NOT my problem.
My family is here and they are not starving or looking for excuses to break the laws of a foreign country. You proposed a situation that encompasses the above. LEARN ENGLISH

Why is it that you think a person who doesn't care about the people of Mexico is a 'raging hate filled nationalist'? Does that make it easier for you to dismiss the validity of their concerns? If you understood english properly then you would understand that if one doesn't care about a group, then by definition they don't hold hatred for them either.

It IS your problem because these people are coming into the U.S. and you don't like the results. Therefore, you have a problem. Understand? If you "don't care about the people of Mexico" why do you spend so much time posting in these threads?

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