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Old 04-19-2006, 07:58 AM   #1
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SHIT: Baghdad teachers beheaded in front of students

... in a primary school ...

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Gunmen brutally kill teachers at 2 primary schools; 8 slain in other attacks

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Separate groups of gunmen entered two primary schools in Baghdad on Wednesday and beheaded two teachers in front of their students, the Ministry of State for National Security said.

"Two terrorist groups beheaded two teachers in front of their students in the Amna and Shaheed Hamdi primary schools in Shaab district in Baghdad," a ministry statement said.

A ministry official said he believed the attacks were aimed at "intimidating pupils and disrupting learning."

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12342623/
Good thing progress is being made and democracy is taking roots, otherwise imagine the shit that would go on ....
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Old 04-19-2006, 08:04 AM   #2
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How can it be justified?

I really am ashamed of my species.
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Old 04-19-2006, 08:04 AM   #3
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[ A ministry official said he believed the attacks were aimed at "intimidating pupils and disrupting learning." ]

intimidate primary school kids? WTF? All you need to do is threaten to turn the TV off to do that - not behead their teachers - and what were the kids suppose to do once they got that message? rally and march upon the government?
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[ A ministry official said he believed the attacks were aimed at "intimidating pupils and disrupting learning." ]

intimidate primary school kids? WTF? All you need to do is threaten to turn the TV off to do that - not behead their teachers - and what were the kids suppose to do once they got that message? rally and march upon the government?

Exactly...

This is just another example of why it is impossible to " spread western democracy " to such a region ... and why a dictator is practically mandatory to run the countries of that region ...
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Exactly...

This is just another example of why it is impossible to " spread western democracy " to such a region ... and why a dictator is practically mandatory to run the countries of that region ...
I don't think a dictator is needed, but no doubt spreading 'western' democracy there isn't going to catch on for another few hundred years. If you spread democracy to that region all you are going to end up with is Governments and countries like Iran (which has some sort of democracy). A country in which extreme religious figures control the true power of the country, and the leaders are hardcore Islamists. People think that if you give them a vote suddenly you'll end up with all these great moderate leaders like most Western nations have, free speech, a move away from religion and so on, it's just not going to happen anytime soon. So sure give them the vote, it's better than a dictator for a number of reasons, but don't expect any real changes. That said, no way I'm going to ask my countrymen to go die so some country in the Middle East can have the vote.

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It's hard to teach democracry to people after carpet bombing them during so-called "raids to find insurgents" and standing on a battleship, waving flags, celebrating "mission accomplished" when you've just sent a country into the dark ages.

Seriously, anyone who believes this war was about spreading democracy is extremely ignorant. Any Washington think tank could've concluded it was an impossible wet dream long ago.
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It's hard to teach democracry to people after carpet bombing them during so-called "raids to find insurgents" and standing on a battleship, waving flags, celebrating "mission accomplished" when you've just sent a country into the dark ages.

Seriously, anyone who believes this war was about spreading democracy is extremely ignorant. Any Washington think tank could've concluded it was an impossible wet dream long ago.
Get a fucking grip - they did this before we came along.

Im not some flag waving idiot - but I do agree that all of us have the right to life without living in this sort of fear.

I cried when I read that - I cry a lot when I see what we do to each other - we are worse than animals, but I feel so helpless.
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Old 04-19-2006, 08:34 AM   #10
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Its absolutly disgusting they way some minds work. To be honest, I don't think there is any solution for those countries. They are so primative. The only thing that can change that country is the people that live there. One day, enough of them will start to get it, and stand up and change they way the live.
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terrible..

those areas are pretty hairy anyways though . when you see footage of iraqi's dancing around a bombed humvee with mutilated americans inside , theres usually primary kids dancing around with them..

doesnt mean they deserve it by any means , but im sure they are used to a little more horror than your average primary school child.. if it happened here you would prob have a class full of kids lapse into a coma from shock..
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IRAQ is so much better after the USA attacked it. Good to see they make progress
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I'm sick of this illusion all of you have of SPREADING democracy. Spreading democracy is made up.

When people want it, they'll fight for it. You can't spread it.
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"I'm sick of this illusion all of you have of SPREADING democracy. Spreading democracy is made up."


Theres no such thing as democracy. Theres only different levels of communism and dictatorships.
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that aint shit... those kids see shit like that er' day
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Exactly what kind of progress did they make?
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Simpletons,

Turkey is a Muslim country, a member of NATO, and a full Western democracy. So your simpleton view that Democracy wouldn't work with Muslims is negated.

Now get back to submitting your galleries and leave important issues to the Adults.

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... and beheaded two teachers in front of their students,
awww come on.

most people are at school to learn but every class has its disruptive pupils... theyll settle down midway through the semester
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Am I the only person that clicked the link on the story? Because when I read it, this is what I saw:

"Meanwhile, local police and neighbors of two Baghdad schools where gunmen had reportedly beheaded teachers in front of their students Wednesday said the slayings never happened, despite an official statement to the contrary.

News crews responded to a statement by the Ministry of Interior, saying that two teachers were hahaha8220;slaughteredhahaha8221; at Amna and Shaheed Hamdi primary schools in Shaab district in Baghdad.

There, neighbors and local police officials denied any such act occurred. There were also no signs of distressed children at the schools. It was not clear why the Ministry of State for National Security issued a statement claiming these acts occurred. "

You all got your panties in a bunch over nothing... but then again, this is GFY -- so don't let the truth get in the way of a good story! LOL
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Come on guys. We liberated Iraq and freedom is running through the streets. It's just another ploy by the liberal media. ;-)
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Wasnt Iraq all "pacified" and brougth to civilization after the "liberation"?.....ahhh
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Am I the only person that clicked the link on the story? Because when I read it, this is what I saw:

"Meanwhile, local police and neighbors of two Baghdad schools where gunmen had reportedly beheaded teachers in front of their students Wednesday said the slayings never happened, despite an official statement to the contrary.

News crews responded to a statement by the Ministry of Interior, saying that two teachers were hahaha8220;slaughteredhahaha8221; at Amna and Shaheed Hamdi primary schools in Shaab district in Baghdad.

There, neighbors and local police officials denied any such act occurred. There were also no signs of distressed children at the schools. It was not clear why the Ministry of State for National Security issued a statement claiming these acts occurred. "

You all got your panties in a bunch over nothing... but then again, this is GFY -- so don't let the truth get in the way of a good story! LOL
The drive-by dipshit directfiesta has never let the the facts get in the way of regurgititating an anti-war, anti-america, fabrication as long it agrees with his political agenda....

Guess he's just too lazy or stupid to do any fact checking.

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The drive-by dipshit directfiesta has never let the the facts get in the way of regurgititating an anti-war, anti-america, fabrication as long it agrees with his political agenda....

Guess he's just too lazy or stupid to do any fact checking.
I posted the fucking link to the full story, moron...

Not my fault if , aside from MaskTVMaura, nobody reads and comprehend the story ...

These news, along with the myth fabricated by the USA on the bad FOREIGN terrorist Zakarwi, are just there to continue to justify the US invasion and occupation :

" oh, but if we leave, the country will be in chaos ... "

BTW, being anti-war makes way more sense than being "pro-war, mainly now that the truth his LEAKING out ...

Sorry if you got fooled, but as an idiot says:

" fool me once, can't fool me , .... hehu ... fool me again, blablabvla..."

Now, go back to FauxNews
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Tfabrication as long it agrees with his political agenda....

Guess he's just too lazy or stupid to do any fact checking.
you want fabrication:

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U.S. military plays up role of Zarqawi (4/9/2006 10:25:14 PM ET)
The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program. The effort has raised his profile in a way that some ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12243324/
Note that this link, of the 9th of april gives now:

"Page not found
Our web servers cannot find the page or file you asked for.
The link you followed may be broken or expired. "

But links of n older date works just fine:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12165495/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12150659/

Sure that it is only a " glitch "

Now, here what was posted during the US PROPAGANDA by non-US sources:

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Iraq militants claim al-Zarqawi is dead
Al Qaida-linked extremist suspected of planning attacks


Updated: 6:31 a.m. ET March 4, 2004

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A Jordanian extremist suspected of bloody suicide attacks in Iraq was killed some time ago in U.S. bombing and a letter outlining plans for fomenting sectarian war is a forgery, a statement allegedly from an insurgent group west of the capital said.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed in the Sulaimaniyah mountains of northern Iraq ?during the American bombing there,? according to a statement circulated in Fallujah this week and signed by the ?Leadership of the Allahu Akbar Mujahedeen.?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084/
This guy's name was in the president speeches every single time ( thugs like, terraaarists like... ).... When is the last time you heard his name lately ....

So please, don't BS me with FABRICATION ...
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Theres no such thing as democracy. Theres only different levels of communism and dictatorships.
Truer words have never been spoken
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You know in the long run Iraq is going to be worse than Vietnam, once cival war fully starts in Iraq god only knows how many millions of people are going to die
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have you ever realised that US soldiers are killing kids in front of kids almost
every single day to spread democracy? Do you ever realise how many innocent
children, civilians and bystanders get killed every day?
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children, civilians and bystanders get killed every day?
The American military never could win the hearts and minds of the people
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There is only one man who can bring peace and order to Iraq,

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Old 04-20-2006, 09:58 AM   #45
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:08 AM   #46
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It's hard to teach democracry to people after carpet bombing them during so-called "raids to find insurgents" and standing on a battleship, waving flags, celebrating "mission accomplished" when you've just sent a country into the dark ages.

Seriously, anyone who believes this war was about spreading democracy is extremely ignorant. Any Washington think tank could've concluded it was an impossible wet dream long ago.
Yup, and what I really like is how most peoples idea of history only encompasses 10 years. I think all the posters in this thread that made mention of democracy not taking hold in the Middle East should look at what happened when a triving democracy did exist. I know no one will want to look it up but in case you do you can start here.
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Meanwhile, local police and neighbors of two Baghdad schools where gunmen had reportedly beheaded teachers in front of their students Wednesday said the slayings never happened, despite an official statement to the contrary.... There, neighbors and local police officials denied any such act occurred. There were also no signs of distressed children at the schools. It was not clear why the Ministry of State for National Security issued a statement claiming these acts occurred.
Their seems to be two different stories here: one being released by a government ministry and the other from the police, friends, and students.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:26 AM   #48
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The American military never could win the hearts and minds of the people
Just because you see the anti-war shit on cnn all day, and never actualy talk to people who served over there, doesnt make you an expert. I have spoke to alot of marines who served over there, and they all have great stories about the kids. The stories you hear on tv usualy have two sides. For example they will tell you a car full of civilians gets shot up by us troops. They dont tell you that it ignored 100 warning shots, and was speeding towards them. They dont tell you alot of shit because it doesnt fit their agenda. Sure alot of bad shit happens over there, but alot of great stuff happens to, you just wont hear about it on a tv station with a anti-war agenda.
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There is only one man who can bring peace and order to Iraq,

and that man is Saddam Hussain!
This has to be a joke right? Do you honestly think there was order or peace in iraq before? The opposing factions have always fought with each other before, the only difference is saddam tortured and murdered people who he felt opposed him.
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