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Old 04-15-2006, 12:42 AM   #1
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your mood/state of mind is a FUCKING choice

you know what..... I fucking HATE people that are always depressive.

sure i get depressive, but I HATE that fucking state of mind.

mood is a choice - and it's fucking work - but God damn it


I choose to be happy!
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"People are usually about as happy as they decide to be."

I forget who said that but they're right.
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Old 04-15-2006, 01:09 AM   #5
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"People are usually about as happy as they decide to be."

I forget who said that but they're right.
Words of wisdom for sure. I struggle with this at times, but for the most part I decide conciously to focus on all the possitive things while keeping in mind the best ways to overcome or leave behind the negatives

"You got to exentuate the possitive, eliminate the negative!"
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Always look on the bright side of life and appreciate what you have. That's the secret to being happy.
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Old 04-15-2006, 01:32 AM   #7
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Old 04-15-2006, 02:25 AM   #8
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Didn't you post 2 hours ago, that you are having a bad day and that you are depressed today?
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Old 04-15-2006, 02:52 AM   #10
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Been saying that since I was 14 or so.
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Old 04-15-2006, 09:46 AM   #11
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You might want to read up on clinical depression.

In addition, there are events in life where you can WANT to "be happy" as much as wanting anything, but you're still going to be depressed.

I've always been a "happy" person - it takes a LOT to get me down and it's only happened a handful of times in 44 years that I can think of, but when it happens, it happens and there isn't shit you can do about it.
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Old 04-15-2006, 09:52 AM   #12
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According to what I've learned, depression is normal....constant depression and sustained depression is not.

24 hour pity parties are okay....as long as they are time limited.

But, those who walk around with the cup is half empty philosophy set themselves up for failure......

There are events that occur that call for depression....tragic events (loss of loved one, income, divorce, death, etc), in particular, produce chemical changes in the brain...that's proven...

I guess we learn to choose the balance between the event and degree of depression...excepting, of course, that which comes as a blindside or a sudden tragic, traumatic happening.
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Old 04-15-2006, 09:58 AM   #14
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I have to agree with Sleazy.

The media and pharmacuetical marketing campaigns have spoon-fed a lot to western society. I can't argue the success....
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It is a chemical imbalance
Many times it is. Sure, there are tons of people who seem to be incapable of being happy with no medical cause at all. No matter what they do, no matter what success they achieve, they are still unhappy.

But when a chemical imbalance disables you from even getting out of the bed and taking a shower, and medication DOES help, it's hard to argue that these people are in complete control of their emotions.

I have migraines. I've had them since I was 13. If I could just decide one day not to have them, I would have done that when I was 14

But there are REAL medical problems people have and chemical imbalance/clinical depression is one of them. They used to "treat" these people with lobotomies, electroshock therapy and hospitalizing them for the rest of their lives. Thank goodness the drug companies have helped where clinically depressed people no longer have to go through that.

Many time drugs are overprescribed. But they also help so many people that it would be a shame to paint a broad brush saying these people should just "be happy" and get over it.
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Clinical depression is the exception. Then there is situational depression. I can admit that sometimes someone's situation is so bad that it's perfectly natural and understandable for them to be depressed for a period of time. Someone who's wife or parents or children die suddenly in a horrible accident for instance, would be considered pretty weird if they DIDN'T get a might depressed.

But for most people in every day occurances, there are tons of people who "Just feel depressed" whenever the mood strikes it seems. The weather depresses them, all the negative shit in the news depresses them, their girlfriend or boyfriend not catering to their every whim depresses them. Here is where Sleazy is perfectly correct.... it's a choice.

Fact is, most people like this who allow themselves to wallow in that kind of depression are simply too lazy to make the decision to change their mood.

Weather? - who gives a fuck. Go find someone to stay in and have sex with.
News? - Try turning off CNN and put on some tunes, pour yourself a martini and go sit on the deck under the umbrella and watch the fucking rain fall.
Friends not doing what you want them to do? - fuck you. Get over yourself, go shopping for fuck sakes.

I've known people who wallow in their depression and think it's trendy and cool to carry a small pharmacopia of anti-depressants around with them at all times. "Take two of these, you'll be okay"
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Clinical depression is the exception. Then there is situational depression. I can admit that sometimes someone's situation is so bad that it's perfectly natural and understandable for them to be depressed for a period of time. Someone who's wife or parents or children die suddenly in a horrible accident for instance, would be considered pretty weird if they DIDN'T get a might depressed.

But for most people in every day occurances, there are tons of people who "Just feel depressed" whenever the mood strikes it seems. The weather depresses them, all the negative shit in the news depresses them, their girlfriend or boyfriend not catering to their every whim depresses them. Here is where Sleazy is perfectly correct.... it's a choice.

Fact is, most people like this who allow themselves to wallow in that kind of depression are simply too lazy to make the decision to change their mood.

Weather? - who gives a fuck. Go find someone to stay in and have sex with.
News? - Try turning off CNN and put on some tunes, pour yourself a martini and go sit on the deck under the umbrella and watch the fucking rain fall.
Friends not doing what you want them to do? - fuck you. Get over yourself, go shopping for fuck sakes.

I've known people who wallow in their depression and think it's trendy and cool to carry a small pharmacopia of anti-depressants around with them at all times. "Take two of these, you'll be okay"
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The only thing a person ever has control over is their own reactions.

I never like when someone keeps going on about how someone "made them" mad, or that "makes me" upset etc. Sure it's common language and all that, but there comes a time when enough is enough. What do you have left to say to someone like that after you've heard it a million times? "Oh well, dont worry about it" blah blah blah. "Mature a bit more and you'll be fine" is not exactly easy to tell people who are adult in age, lol.

You know, theres something to be said for phrases like If you dont have anything good to say, dont say anything at all. Some of us are sick of hearing you complain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Positive thinking can turn a shitty situation into a laughing matter.

Everything is state of mind, absolutely everything.

Of course controlling it takes years of practice. But i've almost got it down 100%
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No, your mood/state of mind is NOT always within your control. Does that mean that mentally retarded people are capable of being smart, they just don't choose to? Or that an insane psychopath is only that way because they choose to be? Of course not, it is controlled by many factors including how and which chemicals your brain releases in response to any given stimulus or without stimulus. For someone without any discernable complications whatsoever your theory may hold true, but I can guarantee you that Manic Depressives and Bipolars are NOT that way because they choose to be.
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you know what..... I fucking HATE people that are always depressive.

sure i get depressive, but I HATE that fucking state of mind.

mood is a choice - and it's fucking work - but God damn it


I choose to be happy!
No shit Sherlock! heheheh

Seriously now, I totally agree, SD - some people just like to feel bad all the time and that sucks!

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Sleazy, you're wrong.

As mentioned before, neurotransmitters play an immense role in determining moods and states of mind. Anyone who has ever tried drugs (including alcohol) should know that.

But aside from nature, nurture also is something which plays a large role in determining the personality and thus states of mind and moods of an individual. How you are raised determines how you learn to deal with emotions. And just like someone who has never been taught how to write will not suddenly create MacBeth, likewise, someone who has never learned how to deal with emotions in a positive way will not just suddenly be able to do so.
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This is what people thought years and years ago.

Now we know different and we know better.

You're just uninformed and undereducated in the matter.
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Most psychotropic drugs...at least for the garden variety neurotic....were only supposed to be used as 'bandaids'. When the insurance companies cut down funding for 'talk therapy', every single general practitioner and psychiatrist started medicating for the long term.

There are diminishing returns from these drugs...but who can fight television 'magic bullet' commercials.....everyone wants the easy 'swallow a pill - feel fine' solution.....and now they've got it...except whatever is the causative factors for sustained depression is still there, leaking....

Attitude accounts for much and knowing oneself accounts for much more....checking one's emotional barometer on a daily basis is essential...and then creating solutions to combat the 'down'.

PR TOM --- I also detest and loathe the words 'he/she/it MADE me feel this way....', which is such bullshit..but we've become a society of blaming others and holding others accountable for our moods.

CD -- weather can create an 'affective behaviour'.....and I live in a state that is without sun many months of the year....highest suicide rate in the country....BUT...even with all the studies that support seasonal depression, one CAN paint a wall yellow, get some bright furniture, hang happy pictures of springtime....there ARE solutions..it's not the end of the world.

I also agree about the news. Turn off the television. Get off your computer. Take a walk. Take a ride. Listen to music. Go to the gym and tire yourself out. There are so many things we can do so as not to fall into the self perpetuating wallowing and whining lifestyle.....

There is no one who hasn't been thrown a curve ball, been blindsided..had tragedy....learning to deal with the unexpected or the worst possible scenario might take a lifetime, but, surely the answer is not in a bottle, not in long term drug therapy.....it's got to come from within. We are the only answers we have.
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Sleazy, you're wrong.

As mentioned before, neurotransmitters play an immense role in determining moods and states of mind. Anyone who has ever tried drugs (including alcohol) should know that.

But aside from nature, nurture also is something which plays a large role in determining the personality and thus states of mind and moods of an individual. How you are raised determines how you learn to deal with emotions. And just like someone who has never been taught how to write will not suddenly create MacBeth, likewise, someone who has never learned how to deal with emotions in a positive way will not just suddenly be able to do so.
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Everything is state of mind, absolutely everything.

Of course controlling it takes years of practice. But i've almost got it down 100%
Agree and with Sleazy as well (Hi honey!!MUAH!)

I'm the first to admit I have to take mental meds for the chemical stuff, and shit always smells the worst when you're in the middle of it. But seriously... sometimes you gotta CHOOSE YOUR ATTITUDE. We're all capable of it.
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