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Mr Pheer · 04-15-2006, 12:18 AM

Great, completely dead at midnight on a holiday weekend. Nobody online to report it to. This is just fuckin lovely.

madawgz · 04-15-2006, 12:23 AM

strange, its not loading for me either, they getting ddosed or something :\ ?

SomeCreep · 04-15-2006, 12:24 AM

they'll be back up soon

chadglni · 04-15-2006, 12:26 AM

Ouch man I just put them up. Iframed ads taking down my site when they don't load is a little much and should be worked out better than that.

Chimmy · 04-15-2006, 12:30 AM

Looks like AFF has been taken down again. If you try to go to their site, this is the response that you will get from google:

Adult FriendFinder - The World's Largest Sex Personals Site
Canadian chapters of the anti-racist, anti-nazi street movement.
adultfriendfinder.com/

Unless AFF has expanded their offerings to include Anti-Nazi dating, I'm guessing that their system has been severly compromised.

baddog · 04-15-2006, 12:32 AM

I sent a message to Sean, I will call Lars in the morning if it isn't resolved by then.

xclusive · 04-15-2006, 12:37 AM

Damn that sucks

Chimmy · 04-15-2006, 12:37 AM

Let them know that it isn't just a server issue, but that their server's security has been compromised. (See my thread above)

Sean · 04-15-2006, 12:51 AM

the server has not been compromised. and i really want to figure out how that guy did that with google and hire him. we are working on getting back up now

Bods4Mods · 04-15-2006, 12:54 AM

Not good at all

Chimmy · 04-15-2006, 12:57 AM

Hate to break it to you, but if your server wasn't compromised, then someone was able to mirror your site through Google and possibly redirect traffic to the mirrored site. Or are you saying that the apparent pirating of the AFF frontpage and the concurrent downtime are not related?

digga · 04-15-2006, 01:07 AM

wheres that pirate guy that hangs around here? he should have some insight into this... goddamn pirates.

Sean · 04-15-2006, 01:10 AM

we are back up

Sean · 04-15-2006, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy

Hate to break it to you, but if your server wasn't compromised, then someone was able to mirror your site through Google and possibly redirect traffic to the mirrored site. Or are you saying that the apparent pirating of the AFF frontpage and the concurrent downtime are not related?

the site was not mirrored. your missing the car on the google listing

baddog · 04-15-2006, 01:16 AM

good job Sean

Chimmy · 04-15-2006, 01:21 AM

I'd love to hear your theories. 2 significant outages in as many days. And an index file from AFF that google indexed, which has been altered from the intended format.

Mr Pheer · 04-15-2006, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

we are back up

thanks

Sean · 04-15-2006, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer

thanks

you are welcome sir. friday night and im on the internet.... why god why

Chimmy · 04-15-2006, 01:27 AM

And surprisingly or not, no reasons are being offered for the outage and pirated google listing.

Mr Pheer · 04-15-2006, 01:36 AM

And thanks to baddog for getting a message to Sean

baddog · 04-15-2006, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer

And thanks to baddog for getting a message to Sean

It is all about the elite ICQ list.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy

And surprisingly or not, no reasons are being offered for the outage and pirated google listing.

Im a little curious about the google listing myself.. its a copy of

www.antiracistaction.ca

and that site appears to forward to aff

baddog · 04-15-2006, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Im a little curious about the google listing myself..

I don't see the listing you are tallking about. Is it Canadian Google?

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 02:41 AM

im assuming this is his aff id g671934

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

I don't see the listing you are tallking about. Is it Canadian Google?

http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ndfin der.com

Code:

Web  Showing web page information for adultfriendfinder.com  

Adult FriendFinder - The World's Largest Sex Personals SiteCanadian chapters of the anti-racist, anti-nazi street movement.
adultfriendfinder.com/ 


Google can show you the following information for this URL:

Show Google's cache of adultfriendfinder.com
Find web pages that are similar to adultfriendfinder.com
Find web pages that link to adultfriendfinder.com
Find web pages from the site adultfriendfinder.com
Find web pages that contain the term "adultfriendfinder.com"

MontrealPimp · 04-15-2006, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

the server has not been compromised. and i really want to figure out how that guy did that with google and hire him. we are working on getting back up now

I hear that some big seo sites picked up on it and are trying to get him to show them his secrets as well.

The potential of this if used in the right way can be so financially intense that I understand the amazment over this.

The guy's info (contact email ) is publicaly available in the whois for antiracistaction.ca I mailed him myself, interesting guy to talk too.

chaze · 04-15-2006, 11:42 AM

Since when is stealing a site interesting?

Don't get it, I mean if you want a quick buck your in the wrong business. Unless maybe your a cam girl or talent of course

Not interested in talking to him.

Drake · 04-15-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Im a little curious about the google listing myself.. its a copy of

www.antiracistaction.ca

and that site appears to forward to aff

Kind of a strange domain to use as a referral page

MontrealPimp · 04-15-2006, 11:49 AM

Take a look at the tens of thousands of affiliates sites that have had their descriptions changed to this anti nazi description . Take a look at the way this is sweeping across google.

go to google and type in

aff anti-nazi

then try

adult friend finder anti-nazi

Look at all those affiliates sites, look at the descriptions for them....

This guy is a genious if you ask me. I never seen SEO action like this before.

WiredGuy · 04-15-2006, 12:13 PM

I'm stumped as well, no idea how he did that without changing the intended url.
WG

elitetec · 04-15-2006, 12:17 PM

When are they coming back???

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

Take a look at the tens of thousands of affiliates sites that have had their descriptions changed to this anti nazi description . Take a look at the way this is sweeping across google.

go to google and type in

aff anti-nazi

then try

adult friend finder anti-nazi

Look at all those affiliates sites, look at the descriptions for them....

This guy is a genious if you ask me. I never seen SEO action like this before.

those are just scraper sites that pull the contents of a search engine to redisplay on their site.. they dont control that

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I'm stumped as well, no idea how he did that without changing the intended url.
WG

i think what happened is its a regular redirect trick to fake pr , but for some reason google must have found the the antiracist site actually had more relevence ( prob cause it wasnt adult related ) so it used its contents to display.. not aff's . because if you look at the antiracist site in google it looks like a redirect..

But as far as i can see it isnt passing along his domain , or his ref code unless you actually go to his domain , just the description..

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 12:25 PM

like we all know you can redirect your domain to another to fake its pr , so if google doesnt catch that it only makes sense that if the site that tries to fake pr has a higher relevence it might get listed in its place.. the reason why you dont see it more often is people dont redirect from a domain that has MORE relevence than the page they are redirecting to.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 12:27 PM

i bet dollars to donuts if you redirected a popular domain to someone's shitty domain then looked back later you would notice the same thing ( not that aff is a shitty domain , but i think it has more to do with adult/vs/non-adult )

MontrealPimp · 04-15-2006, 12:30 PM

I am not too sure about a rinky dink canadian anti-racist squeegeepunk site has more relevance then aff who had a zillion backlinks and is like 8 years old along with a crazy ranking and some of the most impressive traffic around.

I would beg to differ on the "relevance issue" there is something way more complex here.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

I am not too sure about a rinky dink canadian anti-racist squeegeepunk site has more relevance then aff who had a zillion backlinks and is like 8 years old along with a crazy ranking and some of the most impressive traffic around.

I would beg to differ on the "relevance issue" there is something way more complex here.

thats why i added about the non-adult thing..

If you have been watching the se's lately you will notice "seemingly irrelevant" sites showing up high in the serps , simply because of a previously high relevence for that pages keywords for non-adult search terms.. so school dimains are showing up high on the se's for adult terms ( expired school domains etc )

MontrealPimp · 04-15-2006, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

thats why i added about the non-adult thing..

If you have been watching the se's lately you will notice "seemingly irrelevant" sites showing up high in the serps , simply because of a previously high relevence for that pages keywords for non-adult search terms.. so school dimains are showing up high on the se's for adult terms ( expired school domains etc )

right, but how come it affected all of the friendfinder listings as well, would friendfinder be deemed as adult as well?

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 12:58 PM

like this guy.. http://www.astronomy-national-public-observatory.org/

he simply bought an expired domain or somehow got it , then recretaed the page from webarchive. and filled it with porn.. none of the pages have any backlinks except the first one , certainly none of them for adult search terms , yet he ranks high for tons of adult search terms ( do a search on google for all pages on that domain )

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

right, but how come it affected all of the friendfinder listings as well, would friendfinder be deemed as adult as well?

because for some reason it assumed the anti racist site ( for whatever reason) was more relevent for a search for itself.. . i suppose the 403 trick assumes that a site is pointing another site they control over to the same domain. like once google figures out gfyboard.com gfy.com and gofuckyourself.com are all the same it will choose one of them to display so when you go to link:gfy.com it will show the backlinks for the most popular one first.. so basically google assumes that the antiracist site is also owned by aff , and because it has more popular backlinks than aff it shows that site instead of aff. ( because i doubt many relevent pages have backlinks to aff with no ref code just going to the main page..

MontrealPimp · 04-15-2006, 02:34 PM

so if this is so simple to understand and explain, then if I open my own cheezy dating site and just point an established domain of mine with the description " The worlds best dating service is www.mycheapsite.com" then forward the page to AFF, that means that it is that easy to have all the AFF results show up with my site and url, telling all the people to come to my site?

This sounds like too easy of an explanation, someone could make a killing with this if it was that easy.

Or the pepsi coke thing, where all of pepsi sites would have " drink coke, it tastes better" under their search results ... There just seems to be more to it, if it was that simple, google would have done something to correct this hole.

Pornopat · 04-15-2006, 05:05 PM

It makes me think of the stunt a lot of blogs pulled some years back. All linking to the site og George Bush with the text like "biggest faillure in history"
(I know it was not this text but something like it but cant remember the exact text).

RawAlex · 04-15-2006, 05:34 PM

You might actually want to get ahold of matt cutts or someone at google about this one - this is a good example of algo gone bad.

Alex

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

so if this is so simple to understand and explain, then if I open my own cheezy dating site and just point an established domain of mine with the description " The worlds best dating service is www.mycheapsite.com" then forward the page to AFF, that means that it is that easy to have all the AFF results show up with my site and url, telling all the people to come to my site?

This sounds like too easy of an explanation, someone could make a killing with this if it was that easy.

Or the pepsi coke thing, where all of pepsi sites would have " drink coke, it tastes better" under their search results ... There just seems to be more to it, if it was that simple, google would have done something to correct this hole.

well under normal circumstances only the fraud domain would appear to be aff
not the other way around ( like here )
We have all seen pr fakers who use this method , but when you check backlinks ( like on the antiracist site ) it shows the REAL domains backlinks..

But normally when people do this they are using a lower domain to gain a higher domains pr, nobody would fake a pr of a lower pr site right.. so its likely that nobody ever noticed that this would work.. ( its even more likely he didnt even intend for this to happen he merely redirected a domain he just bought to aff and google did it on their own )

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 05:53 PM

if you notice www.antiracistaction.ca is a pr7 and aff is a pr6 ,

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 05:54 PM

so to simplify how this trick works you simply redirect a site with higher pr to a site with lower pr and you will get to put your words in their description.. but the link itself still leads to the proper site..

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2006, 05:55 PM

this topic deserves its own thread

MontrealPimp · 04-17-2006, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

if you notice www.antiracistaction.ca is a pr7 and aff is a pr6 ,

Ya thats what I seen too, antiracistaction.ca is a PR7 and aff is less, a PR6

I talked with the owner of the pr7 , he is looking to sell it.. Interesting, I always wanted to get my hands on a pr7.

Choppa · 04-18-2006, 05:38 AM

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grumpy · 04-18-2006, 05:53 AM

The links wich shows the anti-nazi stuff are all http://adultfriendfinder.com without the www. I think there is the trick.

04-15-2006, 12:18 AM	#1
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04-15-2006, 12:23 AM	#2
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04-15-2006, 12:24 AM	#3
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04-15-2006, 12:26 AM	#4
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04-15-2006, 12:30 AM	#5
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	Looks like AFF has been taken down again. If you try to go to their site, this is the response that you will get from google: Adult FriendFinder - The World's Largest Sex Personals Site Canadian chapters of the anti-racist, anti-nazi street movement. adultfriendfinder.com/ Unless AFF has expanded their offerings to include Anti-Nazi dating, I'm guessing that their system has been severly compromised.

04-15-2006, 12:32 AM	#6
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04-15-2006, 12:51 AM	#9
Sean revolutionforce.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i moved from an ICQ box to a Skype box. left the skype box for a telegram box Posts: 2,909	the server has not been compromised. and i really want to figure out how that guy did that with google and hire him. we are working on getting back up now __________________ -sean skype: sean.a.christian sean @ revolutionforce.com

04-15-2006, 12:54 AM	#10
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04-15-2006, 12:57 AM	#11
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	Hate to break it to you, but if your server wasn't compromised, then someone was able to mirror your site through Google and possibly redirect traffic to the mirrored site. Or are you saying that the apparent pirating of the AFF frontpage and the concurrent downtime are not related?

04-15-2006, 01:07 AM	#12
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04-15-2006, 01:10 AM	#13
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04-15-2006, 01:16 AM	#15
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	good job Sean

04-15-2006, 01:21 AM	#16
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	I'd love to hear your theories. 2 significant outages in as many days. And an index file from AFF that google indexed, which has been altered from the intended format.

04-15-2006, 01:27 AM	#19
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	And surprisingly or not, no reasons are being offered for the outage and pirated google listing.

04-15-2006, 01:36 AM	#20
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04-15-2006, 02:41 AM	#24
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04-15-2006, 11:42 AM	#27
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	Since when is stealing a site interesting? Don't get it, I mean if you want a quick buck your in the wrong business. Unless maybe your a cam girl or talent of course Not interested in talking to him.

04-15-2006, 11:49 AM	#29
MontrealPimp Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 937	Take a look at the tens of thousands of affiliates sites that have had their descriptions changed to this anti nazi description . Take a look at the way this is sweeping across google. go to google and type in aff anti-nazi then try adult friend finder anti-nazi Look at all those affiliates sites, look at the descriptions for them.... This guy is a genious if you ask me. I never seen SEO action like this before.

04-15-2006, 12:13 PM	#30
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04-15-2006, 12:25 PM	#34
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	like we all know you can redirect your domain to another to fake its pr , so if google doesnt catch that it only makes sense that if the site that tries to fake pr has a higher relevence it might get listed in its place.. the reason why you dont see it more often is people dont redirect from a domain that has MORE relevence than the page they are redirecting to. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

04-15-2006, 12:27 PM	#35
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	i bet dollars to donuts if you redirected a popular domain to someone's shitty domain then looked back later you would notice the same thing ( not that aff is a shitty domain , but i think it has more to do with adult/vs/non-adult ) __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

04-15-2006, 12:30 PM	#36
MontrealPimp Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 937	I am not too sure about a rinky dink canadian anti-racist squeegeepunk site has more relevance then aff who had a zillion backlinks and is like 8 years old along with a crazy ranking and some of the most impressive traffic around. I would beg to differ on the "relevance issue" there is something way more complex here.

04-15-2006, 12:58 PM	#39
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	like this guy.. http://www.astronomy-national-public-observatory.org/ he simply bought an expired domain or somehow got it , then recretaed the page from webarchive. and filled it with porn.. none of the pages have any backlinks except the first one , certainly none of them for adult search terms , yet he ranks high for tons of adult search terms ( do a search on google for all pages on that domain ) __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

04-15-2006, 02:34 PM	#41
MontrealPimp Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 937	so if this is so simple to understand and explain, then if I open my own cheezy dating site and just point an established domain of mine with the description " The worlds best dating service is www.mycheapsite.com" then forward the page to AFF, that means that it is that easy to have all the AFF results show up with my site and url, telling all the people to come to my site? This sounds like too easy of an explanation, someone could make a killing with this if it was that easy. Or the pepsi coke thing, where all of pepsi sites would have " drink coke, it tastes better" under their search results ... There just seems to be more to it, if it was that simple, google would have done something to correct this hole.

04-15-2006, 05:05 PM	#42
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04-15-2006, 05:34 PM	#43
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	You might actually want to get ahold of matt cutts or someone at google about this one - this is a good example of algo gone bad. Alex

04-15-2006, 05:53 PM	#45
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04-15-2006, 05:54 PM	#46
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	so to simplify how this trick works you simply redirect a site with higher pr to a site with lower pr and you will get to put your words in their description.. but the link itself still leads to the proper site.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

04-15-2006, 05:55 PM	#47
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04-18-2006, 05:53 AM	#50
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