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Old 04-14-2006, 05:09 PM   #1
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Would you fax in your ID for hosting approval ?

Would you fax in your ID for hosting approval ?
Even though you paid with your credit card ?
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:10 PM   #2
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Yes I would..a few hosting companies do it
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:21 PM   #3
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Would you fax in your ID for hosting approval ?
Even though you paid with your credit card ?
Definately not.

Don't need a host to "approve" anything - they, and anyone else who gets paid, just needs to provide the service they get paid for or fuck off.
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:25 PM   #4
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Done it once so far my identity is still mine.
I'd only do it for a well known company though, even then I was apprehensive.
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:41 PM   #5
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:45 PM   #6
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No way - I was asked just a few days ago. I told them where to stick it.

To be fair - if I was after a 100mbs dedicated then yes - if it was a frudulent card they could lose some real money.

but for some crappy virtual account - no fucking way.
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:48 PM   #7
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Same shit as me mate
A little fucking virtual account to make some tests with blogs and stuff. Also to test the facilities.

Now wtf do i do ?
I've been online since late 96
I've never sent an ID

Purpose of sending my id ?
"to proctect myself" huh ????? Well that's exactly WHAT I WANT TO DO "PROTECT MYSELF"

Like if a fucking credit card only wasn't dangerous enough to use

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Old 04-14-2006, 05:50 PM   #8
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Same shit as me mate
A little fucking virtual account to make some tests with blogs and stuff. Also to test the facilities.

Now wtf do i do ?
I've been online since late 96
I've never sent an ID

Purpose of sending my id ?
"to proctect myself" huh ????? Well that's exactly WHAT I WANT TO DO "PROTECT MYSELF"

Like if a fucking credit card only wasn't dangerous enough to use
For a virtual you can find another host that will ask for much less.
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:51 PM   #9
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I'd never consider sending my ID, such a request seems a bit excessive for a hosting company.
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:52 PM   #10
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i've never understood that either and when i inquire re: the fax machine it is usually the fax machine sitting out in the office for anyone to walk by and swipe my info
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:52 PM   #11
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no, never do it unless your signing a contract with someone where they need to verify that your the one signing the contract.

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Old 04-14-2006, 05:53 PM   #12
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Sure...I can fax them a nicely photoshop'd version of any ID.
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:54 PM   #13
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nope . . . they should have fraud protection set up or move on to a company that does
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:06 PM   #14
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:12 PM   #16
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Most hosting companies will require you to fax your ID and/or front and back of your credit card when getting a dedicated server.
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:13 PM   #17
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meh.. why bother.. if it's a small account, just go somewhere else...
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:13 PM   #18
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Same shit as me mate
A little fucking virtual account to make some tests with blogs and stuff. Also to test the facilities.

Now wtf do i do ?
I've been online since late 96
I've never sent an ID

Purpose of sending my id ?
"to proctect myself" huh ????? Well that's exactly WHAT I WANT TO DO "PROTECT MYSELF"

Like if a fucking credit card only wasn't dangerous enough to use
Dump em and move on.

There's no shortage of hosts and sounds like ya been online longer than most hosts ever existed.
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:13 PM   #19
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Most hosting companies will require you to fax your ID and/or front and back of your credit card when getting a dedicated server.
I have had 3 dedicated servers with some major companies, and I never have had to do that
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:14 PM   #20
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It depends on the type of hosting. For large scale important hosting, defiantly. Actually, I'd appreciate this security measure. I wouldn't mind faxing it back for verification when asking for the root password to be reset etc.

Most commonly though, I think that a lot of quality domain name registrars are doing this now. I've had to fax in my ID a couple of times to get some passwords.
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:14 PM   #21
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Most hosting companies will require you to fax your ID and/or front and back of your credit card when getting a dedicated server.

I assume WebAir asks for that then?

Dont a lot of your clients use Epass?
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:16 PM   #22
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Most hosting companies will require you to fax your ID and/or front and back of your credit card when getting a dedicated server.
Got to be joking!!

Sure, there is nothing wrong with providing all reasonable data to enable hosting, ie.. company name, address, contact, contract blah, but no reason whatsoever to provide personal ID's.
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It depends on the type of hosting. For large scale important hosting, defiantly. Actually, I'd appreciate this security measure. I wouldn't mind faxing it back for verification when asking for the root password to be reset etc.

Most commonly though, I think that a lot of quality domain name registrars are doing this now. I've had to fax in my ID a couple of times to get some passwords.
Exactly, if it's a matter of national security, it's one thing. But, basic hosting is practically an inalienable right these days.


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Exactly, if it's a matter of national security, it's one thing. But, basic hosting is practically an inalienable right these days.
Fuck national security or inalienable rights - it's a business transaction like any other.

If there is a "national security" problem - get the fuck out of the US and to a less paranoid country and have "inalienable rights" which are not even discussed.

PS Ya sure won't be asked for Photo ID crap to enable hosting in any "normal country".
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Fuck national security or inalienable rights - it's a business transaction like any other.

If there is a "national security" problem - get the fuck out of the US and to a less paranoid country and have "inalienable rights" which are not even discussed.

PS Ya sure won't be asked for Photo ID crap to enable hosting in any "normal country".
Where do you live?



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Old 04-14-2006, 06:25 PM   #26
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Again, it's only for a small virtual account ! Maybe i would understand if it was for a couple of servers or just even one but geeeeeeeee the price for a hole year doesn't even match up the price of a small server for only A MONTH
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:27 PM   #28
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If you pay ,... you play !

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If you pay ,... you play !

That's all.
Exactly DF!
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:32 PM   #31
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So i got a little setup fee and the first month paid ?
A 6 packs and big bag of chips wasted ??

Ask for a refund or do a CB which ain't really good for yourself be the way

Hi Hitler, big brother is watching you lol...
A bit pathetic, i was all cranked up by this new project of mine but now.....
Fucking Internet, don't we love it !

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Old 04-14-2006, 06:34 PM   #32
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:35 PM   #33
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So i got a little setup fee and the first month paid ?
A 6 packs and big bag of chips wasted ??

Ask for a refund or do a CB which ain't really good for yourself be the way

Hi Hitler, big brother is watching you lol...
A bit pathetic, i was all cranked up by this new project of mine but now.....
Fucking Internet, don't we love it !

I MISS XPICS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
Don't it just make ya feel like being a "terrorist" after having wasted that 6 pack and a big bag of chips??
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:36 PM   #34
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fuck no, nobody needs your id.... except gambling sites lol
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:36 PM   #35
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If I was paying by a rescindable payment method, i.e. credit card or open account and the amount was more than chump change, yes. But if I was paying by eGold or ePass or some non-rescindable payment method, who I am is none of their business, its irrelevant to the transaction.
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Colisse, kosse ch'fais avec stie ?

WTF do i do with it ?

All you guys (well almost) think they same as me

Funny that no one asked about the host ?

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Colisse, kosse ch'fais avec stie ?

WTF do i do with it ?

All you guys (well almost) think they same as me

Funny that no one asked about the host ?
Mmm.. If you paid and don't care to provide a DNA sample and the host has a problem with that - chargeback. (Especially since you have not been "approved" )

OK then.. what hosting company assume they have rights to the DNA test results?
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:27 PM   #39
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Once ID is received, your account can be activated ?????


I think that the WEB sometimes would need fresh AIR
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:29 PM   #40
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I do it with everything blocked out except name/pics enough to proof who I am.
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:40 PM   #42
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I have no problem faxing my ID. Almost all mainstream hosts now require you to fax the ID.
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Old 04-14-2006, 08:17 PM   #43
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Most hosting companies will require you to fax your ID and/or front and back of your credit card when getting a dedicated server.
funny i've used 20 hosts, & never once got asked for such a thing

do i need to show my ID to buy a bottle of water at a gas station?

this shits stupid
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funny i've used 20 hosts, & never once got asked for such a thing

do i need to show my ID to buy a bottle of water at a gas station?

this shits stupid
When? 2 or 3 years ago thery were not doing it. Now almost all are doing it, its common practice now.

If you buy hosting for anything over 1k/m they ask for ID.

What if you buy cigs and beer with the water, do you need to show ID? Yes.

I dont understand what the big deal is showing your ID.

What if someone stold your CC and used it for hosting? Wouldnt you want that host to ask for ID?
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Old 04-14-2006, 08:30 PM   #46
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Then the cc would not match the whois info on the domain they are using the stolen cc to pay, which should be a nice red flag.
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I dont understand what the big deal is showing your ID.

What if someone stold your CC and used it for hosting? Wouldnt you want that host to ask for ID?
u do not understand the risk in faxing your cc info AND personal info to a non-secure fax machine?

really??
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Non-secure fax machines,..give me a break. You dont have to use fax. There is always the option of scanning it and sending it encrypted via email.
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Non-secure fax machines,..give me a break. You dont have to use fax. There is always the option of scanning it and sending it encrypted via email.
name one hosting comapny that provides tht please, not to mention how the fuck ya send an encryped email
moreover, there are billions of dollars transacted on the web yearly and NONE of that needs anyone to fax anything in, let alon make a fuckin scan and encryp it and email, gimme fuckin break
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Guys... come on. Speaking as a host, it's not that unreasonable of a request. I'm not saying that I regularly ask for such things but you have to remember that sometimes we get people asking for service that raise a number of red flags. I am of the belief that it is in the best interests of every hosting company to know it's clients if for any other reason than to protect their other clients from the trouble that some people cause. At the end of the day your host is someone that you need to develop a trust relationship with, I think - just like your banker, lawyer, accountant. I know there are many of you that disagree and like anonimity - I'm just coming from the perspective of being active and involved with my clients and always looking out for their best interests.

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