Charlie Sheen is a fucking idiot and so is anyone that believes this shit about missiles and bombs

True we may never know everything about 911..

But some of the shit I read on GFY is profoundly retarded.

Hitting our own buildings with planes/missiles just isn't enough - we have to blow them up afterwards :1orglaugh

Excellent video of BYU Professor Steven E Jones. Lots of great info in here!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...34652002408586

i dont know if you people just dont understand english or are so clouded by your own opinions that its warpinf your understanding of english..

What i said was it was CONSISTANT ( go look it up before going any further ) with a controlled demoliton and NOT consistant with a collapse..

your brain somehow warped that into " I CLAIMED IT WAS A CONTROLLED DEMO"

and again with the pentagon .. because i ask to see the videos of the crash its suddenly warped into "missiles" hitting the pentagon ..

no offense but first make sure your "enemy" is actually your "enemy" before you make stuff up out of thin air..

fuck all these people smokey

may the reigns of slavery not fall heavily on their necks

im sick and disgusted by the lack of patriotism i see in this thread

there is a good chance somethign evil was done in your own backyards..and yet most do nothing...karma

we (rest of the world) don't hate you americans, just your government..

but u've to wake up please and stop that terror regime in the whitehouse!

Title of thread

Lets Apply some logic to the Charlie Sheen 9/11 theory.

Now are you saying he isnt questioning the fact that terrorists flew planes into the wtc? WTF are some of you on crack?

ahh i always enjoy a good argument , sometimes i take their side :) i just find it funny when people on both sides lump people together.

I ask to see a video , somehow turns into "missiles attacking the pentagon"

I post a gif of a strange explosion and its " a crazy coffee machine" that bush was a part of.

90% of the garbage is just that garbage re-iterated but easily disproven.. but theres 10% that are reasonable questions that americans want answered, so regardless of your opinion , your either democratic enough to realise we should grant that wish to the majority of americans seeing as how we are spending billions on the assumptions that everything that was in the official report is true , or you think we should ignore all the questions , go towards more of a dictatorship where bush makes all our decisions for us and ignores what the people want because he knows better.

You've made two different gif's showing supposed explosions coming from the buildings. Some people might have a hard time connecting A to B, but I think most of us get what you are insinuating...

if i said that you would read it , but i didnt say that did i ? are you high on crack or something ? seriously , why would you try to put words in my mouth..

so to answer your question , no i never said that , your hallucinating. quote me if i said that..

You're from Canada srsly fook off eh?

:thumbsup

These threads are bizarre.

I've never seen a tall building fall over perfectly sideways.

The towers were architechurally designed to pancake collapse.

The only conspiracy is the fact that a bunch of ultra rich industrialists got together at a country club after 9/11 to figure out how they could make money from using the event for their own trillion dollar financial gain.

CDN banks just underwrote some of you major banking ops

basically we own your mortgages


fuck you all

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060327/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House.




Hmmm He must be a plant. Fuckin GWB and his witness's and Arabs taking credit....

lol now they are "supposed" explosions :1orglaugh

Ok your right , magical explosion like puffs of explosive like cluds of explosive material blew out the "supposed" window..

I was trying to insinuate people look at the gif , nothing more. If i had a theory , even a vague theory on what that was i would have said what i thought it was..

I know exactly what you know about it because it s a fucking video.. you watch it stuff hapens your brain registers it , im not sure what exactly your trying to say.. all i was trying to "insinuate" was it was something odd that i would like to know how it happened. I live in a large building and would like to understand how a structure gives way like that in that fashion as engineers say it must have been explosion or structural weakness.

Most of the elevator shafts dont run top to bottom ( infact only 1 does ) the rest are sub elevators that travel section to section2 making up 4-5 sub shafts that end on certain floors. that could have been one ofg the bottom of one of the top shafts and thus the material being shoved down the shaft and exploding in the lobby on that floor.

But hey im not an engineer , thats why i dont think its so insane to want to know what happened more than the rushed private investigation we got.

Makes perfect sense to me. What better way to destroy evidence than to have it burn for about an hour then have it crashing down 80 stories. Doesnt it occur to anyone why both planes hit the top part of both buildings yet the plane that hit the Pentagon was on ground level? Why wouldnt they try to hit the buildings lower? Seems the terrorists didnt plan on the buildings collapsing so doesnt it make sense that you would fuck up more people by hitting them lower? And if the buildings didnt collapse it wouldnt have been nearly as big of thing as it turned out to be.

This administration had no problem whatsoever lying to invade a country, why wouldnt you put something like this past them?

so in other words you cant quote me saying that so instead quote something you wrote lol great argument :1orglaugh

and that has what exactly to do with 9/11 NOT being a conspiracy ?

nothing.. :thumbsup

drivel on..:winkwink:

they should have "architechurally" designed them to NOT collapse :1orglaugh

sorry i had to say it

Well someone said they were designed to take on a direct hit from a 737, but it wasnt the plane hitting them that made them collapsed, it was the fuel/fire, which would have also been the case if it was a 737.

Oh well you want to talk about the building (man I swear its a phallic obsession) now lets see 'did it look like controlled demolitions'. Answer: Yes it did. Conclusion: Absolutely none. You are indulging in what is called 'observational science'. i.e. you draw your conclusions from what you observe. Its why mankind believed for thousands of years that the sun revolved around the world because they observed it to be so. Anyone who used math to point out it did not was harrangued as a lunatic talking gibberish and could they frankly get their heads out of their asses and just look at the sun going round the Earth - I mean for fucks sake! Any of this sound familar btw?

In short logic i.e. the building construction, impact of two jets crashing into the buildings, angle of impact, fuel carried, construction materials used etc etc is discarded in favour of a video clip of a puff of smoke below the impact line. How the impact of the jets carried round and down the building, venting at weaker points and so on is ignored because 1) you have seen a puff of smoke and 2) firemen reported seeing flashes. Nothing else matters save what you observe and hearsay reports that fuel your own conviction.

You couple these observations with your own inherent belief in Western superiority ie a bunch of Arabs could not have done this. They are camel fucking turban heads is what your deep rooted subconcious is telling you. Can't be. No way these backward fuckers could do this etc etc.

The kicker is that the reason why you and others like you refuse to accept the obvious explanation is because you prefer to have it done by Western Govts/Shadowy Intelligence Agencies et al because that is more comforting then a bunch of Arabs doing it. It fits in with your westerncentric world view
and ultimately is less frightening and more easier to rationalise.

This thread is littered with examples of why Arabs could not have done this - including 'how could they find NY and the wtc?'. I mean seriously this is what you guys come up with and then rage at us for pointing out the flaws.

It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic

What evidence would need to be destroyed besides the bombs themselves?

this is possibly the most informative and well thought post about this subject on GFY,props to all the peeps posting their opinions and theories.

That's funny. When I was allowed to move back into my loft, 3 months later, they were still taking out warped beams that were steaming when they washed them off in front of my building. In case you didn't read it right the first time. They were STEAMING 3 months later.Yep that 10 story pile of rubble was just wisked away real fast.

What a fucking tool you are.

huh ? this thread is about 9/11 and buildings hit by planes.. are you in the wrong thread or something or just a different planet ?

thank you thats exactly what i said

actually i didnt draw any conclusions or else you would have quoted them , you did ,..:1orglaugh
huh again your seem to hallucinate i made some claims about what happened. take your head out of your ass for a second and learn to read..
blah blah blah , again your assinine assumtions make you look completely inept and incapable of understand basic english. First you assume im "western" then you assume im a racist who would talk about arabs in a disparaging fashion , and to top it off you assume how i feel LOL thats alot of false assumption man , no offense but your making yourself look even stupider ( if thats possible ) :1orglaugh

thus anyone with a question must think arabs didnt do it..

i'll add that one on your growing list of fetishtoms inability to comprehend basic english and assinine assumptions 101

BINGO! We have a winner. Why doesnt anyone else listen to KRL?

Because he talks sense and that is no way as much fun, plus a lot of people are in denial and do not even read any thread that makes sense!

suddenly we have a bunch of aeronautical crash experts and structural engineers here on GFY. shit i thought i was the only one... lol

Ah again we have trouble with the concept of humour or in this case whimsy.

I know it is - as does anyone else reading the post but we appreciate the heads up

This bit I love! :thumbsup Good old Smokey still thinks he has 'not drawn any conclusions!'


And again! Never once claimed anything about what happened. Not once. Never. Nada. Zip. Zilch. God bless this man and all that sail on the good ship Smokey Bear. Ist stop Never never land via the city of denial.

Correct. I assume you to be Western with a westerncentric world view. I still do. And technically its a lot of assumptions - whether they are false assumptions remains to be seen.

That is a non sequitur.

You mean 'your' growing list so it should read 'my' as in 'yours' unless of course you meant 'my' growing list and therefore 'your' growing list was in fact grammatically correct but alas factually incorrect.

Strange no ? When a fucking lplane crashes, they keep everything, haul it in a hanger and reconstitute the plane to study the possible cause of the crash...

9/11 didn't seem to important enough to keep intact for further study ....

watch this 911 eye witness
He filmed it all from across the river
YOU CAN HEAR bombs going off
part I
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...911+eyewitness

part II
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...911+eyewitness

you can hear bombs going off before the towers come down.

All this blah blah blah about explosions, it is amusing.

If you are convinced there were bombs in the buildings, why are you all so obsessed with the idea that your own government was the one that planted them?

Has anyone ever considered that maybe the terrorists did - you know how they like to make very big, public attacks and pre-planting the bombs would ensure the buildings came down. Hey, it's not like Al Qaeda hasn't used bombs before!

And since most terrorists allegedly involved in this attack are either dead or hiding, it's not like they are going to be able to go on record and say "yeah, we planted the bombs" or deny it.

If anything, if they saw delusional paranoia like the ones you so-called patriotic Americans are having, they'd be having a good laugh - "See how we are turning this country against itself!!!! These morons believe their own government attacked the WTC and not us!!!! Ha ha ha."

Seriously, get a grip.
Bombs in the building? Okay, I believe you. But who is more likely to have planted them knowing thousands of innocent people would die - your own government or a terrorist group that lives for killing innocent Americans? If you believe your own government DID this, then what are you still doing living there? Seriously.

LOLOLOL!!! Way to Stir Shit up TiTan !

Any one care to comment on the evidence given by Zacarias Moussaoui who is currently on trial? Hi-jacking planes, crashing them into the wtc - what the hell you can read it for yourselves. Seems to have missed the part out where it was planned by Bush; all down to Osama apparently...

...no wait, ever wondered why they never found Osama? In fact has anyone ever seen Bush and Osama in the same place at the same time? Is it possible that:

G W Bush = Osama bin Laden

The Bush and bin Laden family have been close for years - damn they are in this together! Its a fucking conspiracy I tell ya!:winkwink:

i got tired of reading this after page 1

Omg Ive watched those vids before. The ones with the super secret copters flying around? lol That guy is a total fuckin nutjob tool. The big loud sounds? What do you think happens when whole floors are pancaking internally ontop of each other? hmmm... :uhoh

That is the biggest pile shit I have ever seen.

Fuckin Nutjobs and their crazy ideas... LOL

Take some more Paxil

If you actually did watch them you would have heard multiple 'big loud sounds' 5 - 10 minutes before they collapsed. Sounds to me like you are the total fuckin nutjob. :2 cents:

And that would not be say the floors collapsing internally prior to the outside structure collapsing?

Just a thought.

Yea you're right. Bush would never lie or blow up buildings. :1orglaugh

learn to read :1orglaugh seriously , STOP take your head out of your ass, open your eyeballs focus them on the words , then scan from left to right slowly collecting the information and store it in your brain , then process that information to decide what words to write/say , its not a hard concept, you seem to have a case of verbal diarrhea

You can boil this thread down to 3 sorts of people .

#1 people that actually read the thread and post arguments with merit.

#2 people that dont read the thread and just post their opinion

#3 idiots like fetishtom that apparently read the thread but cant comprehend basic english and make idiotic assumptions based on nothing but their mouth flapping

Not one person in this thread has even come close to answering even 1 of my questions , but instead hallucinated words ..

Its sad how some people's version of reality is so far off base that they have to make shit up in order to get their point across.

Whats sadder is when i post a video clip, that some people are so inept that they think a video = conspiracy theory.. then they go on to agree with my interpretation of the video in the same exact paragraph.. the height of stupidity..

I seriously think some people should be castrated so they dont breed anymore.

You're a whole post out - we've done this one. Now go away and start again. Oh and do try and keep up I am making enough allowances for you as it is.

This part is especially funny , instead of posting proof like hmm perhaps WHERE I DREW A CONCLUSION, he chooses to make some assinine statement further showing his stupidity..

Good ol fetish tom , he is like the mentally retarded cousin you never had..:1orglaugh

your a full brain short of a brain...:1orglaugh you still cant understand english so i feel sorry for you..

Now go away and come back when you have anything cogent to say , or anything with merit , or you grow up .

but of course you dont just drivel to spew. you cant back up one statement you have made with proof nor can you disprove anything i have said with proof , so your basically just useless...

come back when you have some proof and a brain to put them to work...

so basically fetishtom is a windbag with nothing to contribute but the flapping sound his gums make . At least stickyfingerz tries to debate things, fetishtom just wallows in his own ignorance .

My you do seem a little bit put out by my contributions. :winkwink:

perhaps you cant read english... you haven't contributed anything yet.. :1orglaugh your lucking a retarded puppy , funny to laugh at and play with , but in the end your still retarded so i feel sorry for you.. actually i feel more sorry for your parents , because they must have had some unique dna to make such an ignorant being..:1orglaugh :winkwink: i'm not put out at all , i enjoy a good argument , but your no challenge , you make it so easy.. I worked all day and you flapped your gums all day..