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Old 03-04-2006, 07:47 AM   #1
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Why the police are fucking hated...Why does my message stall & how can I prevent stal

http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_033170755.html

Watchdog group goes in to get forms to complain. First place shown, the cop threatens the guy, and puts his hand on his gun.
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haha this is some classic trascripts haha

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These are transcripts of conversations between police officers at the departments named and our tester:

(Lauderhill P.D.
tester: Yeah, I wanted to find out how to file a complaint against an officer. I just want to find out how you do it. Do you guys have a form or something that I could take with me.
officer: Well, you got to tell me first, and then I got to hear what's going on. You've got to tell me what the complaint is.
tester: Do you have a complaint form that I can, like, fill out or something like that?
officer: Might not be a legitimate complaint.
tester: Who decides that?
officer: I'm trying to help you.
tester: Like, if there's a form, why can't I just take it and leave, right?
officer: No, you don't leave with forms. You tell me what happened, and then I help you from there. Do you have I-D on?
tester: Why?
officer: You know what? You need to leave.
tester: Why?
officer: I'm going to tell you one more time, because I can't do this anymore with you, okay. You're refusing to tell me what you want to do, okay. You're refusing to tell me who's involved, where it happened, what transpired. You'e not cooperating iwth me one bit.
tester: I was just asking if you guys have a complaint form, like if there's some way for me --
officer: Out of my way.
tester: To contact Internal Affairs.
officer: You can do whatever the hell you want. It's a free country.
man" You're cursing at me.
officer: Where do you live? Where do you live? You have to tell me where you live, what your name is, or anything like that.
tester: For a complaint? I mean, like, if I have --
officer: Are you on medications?
tester: Why would you ask me something like that?
officer: Because you're not answering any of my questions.
tester: Am I on medications?
officer: I asked you. It's a free country. I can ask you that.
tester: Okay, you're right.
officer: So you're not going to tell me who you are, you're not going to tell me what the problem is.You're not going to identify yourself.
tester: All I asked you was, like, how do I contact --
officer: You said you have a complaint. You say my officers are acting in an inappropriate manner.
officer: So leave now. Leave now. Leave now.
tester: I'm not doing anything wrong.
officer: Neither am I. It's a free country.
officer: I'm not in your face. I'm standing on the sidewalk. It's a free country. One more step forward, and you'll see what happens. Take one more step forward.)

(Miami-Dade PD Midwest Station
man" Yeah, I'm trying to find out how to file a complaint against an officer.
officer: What station does he work at?
tester: I'm ont saying he works at this facility. I'm trying to file --
officer: My question is where does he work at? He works here at this district? Just try to answer my question. I think you think this is a big conspiracy.
tester: I want to find out how you file a complaint. That's what I'm asking.
officer: If you think you can walk in here and go straight to the director of Metro Dade Police without telling me any details, you can't do it. And I -- for some reason, you think that, I don't know why. You think it's a big conspiracy, that we're going to hide some information about what happened to you, I don't know. Is it a traffic ticket? Is it something, you know, (?) complaint. That he stole your lunch money, did he steal your money, did he have sex with your wife, what?)

(Hialeah Gardens PD
tester: I want to know, how can I go about filing a complaint against a police officer?
officer: Where did the incident happen? What street?
tester: Sir, I --
officer: I'm here to hear the complaint. I'm going to take the complaint, so you've got to speak to me so that we can discuss this and see what we can do. Speak to me about it. When did this happne?
tester: Sir --
officer: Leave. Leave.
tester: So you're not going to take my complaint?
officer: Yes, I'm trying to! ANswer my questions!
tester: I don't really want to discuss it. I have --
officer: I'm going to investigate it!
tester: Is there any other way I can go about it?
officer: Do you have psychological problems or what?)

(South Miami PD
tester: I'm trying to find out how to file a complaint against a police officer. Is there a complaint form or something like that?
officer: It don't work that way.
tester: You said there's not a complaint form that I can just -- there's nothing I can just get and take and fill out?
officer: That ain't hte way it works.)

(Hollywood PD
officer: What can I do for you?
tester: I'm trying to find out how to file a complaint against an officer.
officer: Which officer would that be?
tester: Um, I mean, I just want to find out how to do it right now. That's what I want.
officer: You would talk to me.
tester: So there's not, like, a form or something? That's the only way to do it.
officer: Yep.)

(Hallandale Beach PD
tester: I want to know how to file a complaint against an officer.
officer: If you want to file a complaint, I need to know what officer, so I know what sergeant to send you to.
tester: Do you have a complaint form or something?
officer: No, you'll have to talk to a sergeant.)

(Sunny Isles PD
tester: Yeah, I'm trying to find out how to file a complaint against an officer? Have you got a complaint form?
officer: No, you have to talk to a sergeant.)

(Miami Springs PD
tester: Okay, so like, there's not a form or something?
officer: No.)

(Miami Beach PD
tester: Okay, there's not, like, a form or anything like that I can take?
officer: No.)

(Pembroke Pines PD
tester: I'm just trying to find out how to file a complaint against an officer.
officer: You need to talk to the supervisor, up the hall.
tester: Is there a form around here I can take?
officer: No.)

(Coral Gables PD
tester: You don't have a complaint form or anything like that?
officer: A what?
tester: A complaint form.
officer: You have to go through a sergeant first.
tester: So that's the only way to do it, to sit down with a sergeant?
officer: That's the only way.
tester: Not a form? No form to give me?
officer: No, we don't have a generic form.
tester: No generic form?
officer: No.
tester: Okay.)

(City of Pinecrest PD
tester: How do I file a complaint against an officer?
officer: Um --
tester: Is there a form or something?
officer: A form? No, there's no form.)

(Wilton Manors PD
tester: You don't have a brochure that I can leave?
officer: There's no form, there's no brochure, there's nothing like that.)

(Sea Ranch PD
cop; We don't give you -- we don't give you a form. Where do you live?
tester: I don't want to say.
officer: You don't want to say?
tester: Where are you going?
officer: You want to play hardball? We'll play hardball. I want ID.
tester: For what?
officer: I'm asking you for ID right now, that's why. Here, hand it to me. Hand it to me.
tester: Are you kidding me? Here.
officer: I said, hand me your ID. What are you doing here? This is --
tester: I came to ask you how to file a complaint.
officer: This is very suspicious.
tester: Asking how to file a complaint is suspicious?
officer: Why don't you shut up?
officer: I say this is very suspicious, that you pull in here at this time of night --
tester: Eight o'clock?
officer: You're constantly butting in.
tester: I'm constantly butting in?
Mike: Sir, I would like to leave.
officer: I would love it, but he's got your driver's license, so you're just going to have to stay.
Mike: Sir, are you detaining us?
officer: Okay, could I give you a ticket right now for improper backing.
Mike: You can do whatever you want, I suppose.
officer: Okay, that means yes, I guess you're saying, right? ANd for backing up, correct, yes?
Mike: I was backing up, sir, because I was leaving.
officer: But because I'm a nice guy, okay, I'm going to give you a warning. Is that fair?
Mike: Yes, sir.
officer: Okay.)

(Broward sheriff North Lauderdale
tester: There's no way, like, to just write it down or something like --
officer: Well, first, why don't you tell me what happened, and I'll tell you if somebody did something wrong to you.
Tester: I feel like I know when somebody did something wrong, I mean, like, you know --
officer: Maybe not. Some people don't. Some people think we're not allowed to do certain things, and we are. Sometimes, you know, some guys take it overboard, and they're not allowed to do that.
tester: Right.
officer: I don't know what happened.
tester: Right, right. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to talk --
officer: I tried to help you, but obvously you've got issues.
tester: I don't have issues, man.)
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you mean www.killpolice.com ?
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i dont see why people think cops are fucking heros
I know a few personally who are pretty cool. Most that I've either come in contact with or have needed help from were complete dicks much like those in the video.
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the people who did the hidden cam project:

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its actually funny the similarities between the different police stations. like trying to insinuate the victim " has psychological problems " or is "crazy" for wanting to file a police report..
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its actually funny the similarities between the different police stations. like trying to insinuate the victim " has psychological problems " or is "crazy" for wanting to file a police report..
What I don't get is why cops always ask for ID for no reason when you're doing nothing wrong. Are they that bored?
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Most of these cops will end up patrolling the water, thats where they send the most agressive hardass cops, less complaints.
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That all was pretty crazy ... evryone of the cops who was agressive seem to have some kind of guily look on their faces ... and they were all very defensive ....amazing .. totally amazing
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That all was pretty crazy ... evryone of the cops who was agressive seem to have some kind of guily look on their faces ... and they were all very defensive ....amazing .. totally amazing
I wonder if anything was done to the prick cop who touched his gun and then threatened the guy.
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the truly sad thing is, that you guys are showing your ignorance about what goes on in police stations, and infront of police officers.

Before you bitch so much, spend about 80 hours with them. You eyes will open you a lot of things.


Also. the video that is being shown, had had quite a bit of editing to it,
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I wonder if anything was done to the prick cop who touched his gun and then threatened the guy.

Another person that is to fast to call names, and not truly listen and see what was going on. The officer clearly said. Dont take another step closer. If he feels that this person may be a danger to him, he has every right to protect himself.
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Another person that is to fast to call names, and not truly listen and see what was going on. The officer clearly said. Dont take another step closer. If he feels that this person may be a danger to him, he has every right to protect himself.
The cop was belligerent from the very beginning and instigated the entire confrontation.

I have many cop friends myself, in fact two cops live next door and they're great neighbours.

But some of those cops on the video had major attitudes and should be disciplined accordingly.
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the truly sad thing is, that you guys are showing your ignorance about what goes on in police stations, and infront of police officers.

Before you bitch so much, spend about 80 hours with them. You eyes will open you a lot of things.


Also. the video that is being shown, had had quite a bit of editing to it,

what does that have to do with THIS case..

What does spending 80 hours with a cop have to do with cops being aggresive and idiotic ?

Grab a clue , you obviously have an opinion based PURELY on some "isolated" experience with police officers. Nobody is saying "all cops are idiots" , "all cops act that way ", you could have hung with cops for 50 years with 100's of cops , that doesnt mean some cops in some places you didnt "hang" with dont do bad things that we should be aware of..

Gee i hung with a cop once so they should be able to intimidate people because their job is stressfull.. give me a break..
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Another person that is to fast to call names, and not truly listen and see what was going on. The officer clearly said. Dont take another step closer. If he feels that this person may be a danger to him, he has every right to protect himself.
are you seriously that daft? . did it look in any way like that guy wanted to go back in.. the cop ran him out of the police station and didnt want him to leave. it was the most idiotic confrontation i have ever seen.

No offense , but dont let your experiences cloud your judgement.. some cops are saints , some cops should be treated like heroes and worshiped way more than any hollywood actors/politicians.. some cops save lives and protect people. but if you cant realise this and also realise there are dirty drug dealing back stabbing murdering molesting sick twisted power hungry cops , then your slanted..
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At McDonalds, not 60 mins. ago:

Me: "Hi, can I speak to the manager, please?"
Clerk: "Do you want an application or something?"
Me: "Umm, no... I just want to talk to him for a sec about my fries."
Clerk: "Oh, you want me to replace your fries..."
Me: "No, the fries are fine. I just want to talk with the Manager of the store about them."
Clerk: "Why?"
Me: "Because"
Clerk: "Lemme get him."

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Another person that is to fast to call names, and not truly listen and see what was going on. The officer clearly said. Dont take another step closer. If he feels that this person may be a danger to him, he has every right to protect himself.
Blanketing comments this this should be ignored in holding rogue cops accountable. Take a quick look through these videos - http://www.policeabuse.org/ - even the above poster would have a hard time explaining away outright criminal behavior by corrupt cops.
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Another person that is to fast to call names, and not truly listen and see what was going on. The officer clearly said. Dont take another step closer. If he feels that this person may be a danger to him, he has every right to protect himself.
What did the kid do that made the situation dangerous? Do you really think his superior would be proud of any of that officer's actions?
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At McDonalds, not 60 mins. ago:

Me: "Hi, can I speak to the manager, please?"
Clerk: "Do you want an application or something?"
Me: "Umm, no... I just want to talk to him for a sec about my fries."
Clerk: "Oh, you want me to replace your fries..."
Me: "No, the fries are fine. I just want to talk with the Manager of the store about them."
Clerk: "Why?"
Me: "Because"
Clerk: "Lemme get him."


Looks like everywhere you go, someone wants to be in charge.
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I was gonna watch the cilp . . but when I heard the annoucer I had to dump the page . . what a joke . .
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PART 2

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Old 03-06-2006, 12:10 AM   #32
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Old 03-06-2006, 12:51 AM   #33
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The problem in these situations is that there isn't a place to go if you have an abusive police officer. Most IA departments are jokes and run by the officers themselves. Most complaints are brushed off. So in the end, these officers have complete control.

The officer who followed the guy out of the station should be fired on the spot. There is no excuse for it whatsoever. The guy wasn't threatening and was trying to walk away.

Lastly, people forget one important thing. Cops work for us. Our tax dollars pay for their salary. They are here to serve and protect us, not belittle and intimidate us. So the "live in their shoes" expression doesn't fly with me. They chose the job, they can quit anytime, and they work for us. It's time people stopped being afraid and intimidated by officers and treating them like employees.
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:02 AM   #34
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Here is a video from that site:

http://www.policeabuse.org/angrycop.wmv

Surprised that a cop accused of felonies, sexual assaults, physical assaults and on tape verbally harrasing a mother and her family in uniform is still on duty. One of the only jobs in the country you can get away with all that.

Why am I not surprised this happens in Florida?
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:31 AM   #35
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Another person that is to fast to call names, and not truly listen and see what was going on. The officer clearly said. Dont take another step closer. If he feels that this person may be a danger to him, he has every right to protect himself.

ya and if we do shit like that and say we were "protecting" ourselves we would get charged with something.. The guy didn't pull out a damn gun and point it at the cop.. Oh, but tghe cop felt threatened? Whatfuckingever.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:08 AM   #36
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its sad but true, cops are people, and not all people are good, not all people do their job properly, not all people are entirely sane. thats all there is to it. we've all run into shitty cops, and by the same token, we've run into nice helpful cops.

lot like bartenders at clubs, car dealers, doctors, the list goes on. but in this case, regardless of editing, some of these cops were just outright irrational and confrontational. and the biggest point that no one touches on is, THERE ARE FORMS THAT YOU CAN TAKE, the misbehavior was the juicy part to hype it up, but yah, there are forms, that was the point.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:26 AM   #37
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I think all police stations should have the complaint forms, but the video editing of this report is extremely bias. Like with the cop that grabbed his gun. The video immediately begins with the cop clearly frustrated. I'm guessing the officer asked this guy a lot of questions, all to which he wouldn't answer or repeated the same question "Do you have a complaint form I can fill out?" This would frustrate any police officer and probably why they asked if he had mental problems or was on medication. If you're trying to take down this persons report and they won't say anything and keep asking for a form, I'd think you were an idiot with a mental problem too. Walking after him out of the police station was a little much. So what if he touched his gun? For all I could see he was checking to make sure the safety was on, or that it was properly holstered. He didn't pull a fucking gun on anyone or act like he was going to draw his weapon.

You've gotta understand this guy came in there with absolutely no legitimate complaint. He just wanted forms. Well, if there really are no forms available wtf do you want the officer to do? Let's blame a police officer for department policy issues? Most of the stations just said no and the guy left. The incidents occured when officers attempted to follow procedure and document the complaint. But because there was no complaint the officers got extremely frustrated having to deal with this person who wants help, but won't give any details.

I see the issue the video makes, but I also see how it was spun to make a few cops look really bad. I didn't see intimidation, I saw frustration.
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