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 I understand .. but it is easy to craft a nice response after you make the shit hit the fan ... the bottom line is that she gained access to a server that is not hers and deleted files ... that's a crime ..regardless of the fact that she thinks they belong to her. her attorney should have shot us a letter and we would have replied with proof that we own the images ... or take it to court . she chose to fuck affiliates and put herself in a bad place legally. I'll make the money up with affiliates but you can bet I'll be suing her for damages. I have to ... it was the wrong way to go about it. I can't imagine that her attorney would put her in that place ... I think he did that while being upset and not thinking. affiliates will remember that down the road when she does her next project. ask tassy ..weeks ago she was trying to contact Lia and I even told her then that i can't get a response from her either. I had no choice but to terminate our agreement. I'm sorry it went that way ..I like her  | 
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 Mikey Quit Talking! You have no depth to any of your statements. I gained access to the server. WTF if I didn't have access how would any of the updates get to the site. I didn't delete anything I took my content. I didn't touch any other sites ,designs, logos, templates nothing just my images and videos. "Proof we own the images" seeing how I took the images and I have copywrites to all the images. The only way you would get proof is from me. I don't think thats happened. I didn't choose to fuck affiliates. You chose to cut corners. Maybe affilates will remember it down the road. But good content is also pretty important to them. I am not sure what the other sites you have are paying out. But I know josie is at the top for them making money with mobbucks. Ask Tassy what? She couldn't get ahold of me because you went in and changed my e-mail address. When she called me out on the board I was with her in minutes. Plus what concern of that is even yours? Terminate what agreement. I never made any agreement with you and I belive you weren't in the meeting when details were discuss. Quit being a manipulator. All of this would have been avoided if you would of send checks. I know I didn't call you. Well that doesn't matter. % paid off profits of my content. Not if I called you back or not. You can't do that. If I wanted to do buiness with my dad I would of. just let the lawyers handle it. Lia 
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		 I am with LIA on this one, i have been reading all the posts on this on. I will support you Lia! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 reading your emails/icqs/etc/ thats just going over the line. i wouldnt want to have anything to do with someone that does that. just wish you all the best continue rocking out the quality content with ftv, you always convert. take care, hope you have a good weekend. 
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 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:25:26 -0400 Subject: FTP Info FTP: 64.237.52.146 username admin password You can put new content for josie under josiejunior.com/content/ Thanks, 
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	yanno, so the affiliates don't get hurt too? Maybe to much has been done at this point.... I know being young with good money comming in, can be ummmm Great....that is until it stops comming in. Sucks to see alot of hard work go down the drain on both sides. Glad to see you come in and speak up Lia. I hope all gets worked out, without spending more money.  | 
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 Anyone can take a header from an email and put it on top. Be honest for christ sake, don't fucking lie about shit. Besides the josiejunior/content directory couldn't be accessed from there anyway you would be in the root, and obviosely you know that. Whom ever gave you that ip and user gave you access to the entire main server of the time (which was a long time ago anyway), i doubt you would know where to go unless directed to.  | 
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 Lets make up a little story to explain it. If you and I have a debate over a TV we won, raffle lets say (you say it was your ticket, I say min), and I have the tv in my house. you can't sneek in when i'm not home and take it. EVEN if you have the key. The police would charge you with grand larceny, burglary, and criminal tresspass. You would be better off taking me to Judge judy, let her straighten it out. That's just a stupid question...really now.  | 
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 Lets say you own a store that sells baskets on consignment. I am a basket weaver. I make some, then bring 10 of them to you to sell. I never get a single fucking penny from you in the intervening weeks. I come into your shop and see that 6 out of 10 of my baskets are gone. I complain, asking where the fuck my money is and you try try to pay me for 2 baskets. I say "fuck you" and take all my baskets home. ta-da  | 
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 2-You also forgot where I tell you that four of the baskets were complete shit and you should replace them since paying customers paid already and need the good ones. To which you refuse and avoid my calls for weeks. ******storytime with jimthefiend and mobbucks*******  | 
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		 Alright , I'm gonna go watch TV, take some ambien, and laugh at that last little story we made up. Maybe bang my wife. You can go weave me a basket...I would love it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Besides the name calling and all of the other BS involved in this situation.  Id say MobBucks is the one who is in the right in this particular incident.  Seems as if there is a lot of favor towards the person you get along with rather then the actual business part of the whole incident in this thread. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
	You don't go and take content from active websites without at least discussing the situation with the sponsor first. IF it is your content and you feel you have been swindled, you take it to your attorney. After that IF you win the judgement you'll recieve compensation for what was rightfully yours and also in turn get your content back. If not, well better luck next time and take it as a learning experience. But, you went in and took it without permission. That was unprofessional and you could very well get some heat for it. Then again im just going off of what you guys have posted in two threads, there may be more to it then what is being said.  | 
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		 This is a recurring theme bill was nice they attacked him , lia seems ok they attack her. hmmmmm 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 "I support her and whatever she does. But after seening the post and after speaking with my lawyer. We decided I should take the content down off the site." 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	THIS is why a model should be.. JUST content.. Taking down someone's content without prior consent is illegal and hurts lots of webmasters in the process. Not only that, if you support Josie so much, why did you rmove the content fromt eh site she makes money form? Smart move. I guess there's a reason content is content, lack of self control and any business sense. there are exceptions.. but not many, Anywho..  | 
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 Even if it was her property, she has no legal right to go renegade and sabotage property as a whole (the site, which is useless until content is re-uploaded), which she did. She is no longer employed/partnered with mobbucks. At that point any permissions to access the server (if she had any) would be terminated on that note. It's the same as an ex microsoft employee breaking in after hours once fired to steal code they wrote while employed by microsoft.  | 
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 The problem is that the law is tricky in a situation like this. Most likely Lia could be found in breech-of-contract (even a verbal agreement can qualify) for not providing the content in a reasonable amount of time and for not contacting her "employer" in a reasonable manner or in a reasonable amount of time (sorry for the redundancy, but that's how law is). Also, even if the content is proven to be hers, she can still be held liable for damages due to the fact that taking down ALL members content on the site, opens MobBucks up to a barrage of lawsuits including False Advertising and Fraud. There is a lot more to it than meets the eye, and sadly Lia may be viewed as culpable either way. ![]() 
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 your analogy of making a car payment = repo - doesnt apply to this situation. I was in a similar scenerio. I took what was rightfully mine from a place of business i was a partner in and sat in jail for what i did later that day for a few hrs till charges were dropped. got a nice education from my lawyer on this particular situation and would advise those who THINK they know their rights to consult a lawyer before acting on a matter regardless of how right you are - or think you are.... 
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		 Wow, I dont normally read drama threads but here's some real bonafied drama.   That's really rare. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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