SATA drives...worth it? - GoFuckYourself.com

jollyperv · 02-22-2006, 06:13 PM

Need a new drive pretty soon, is there a noticeable difference between a 7200 rpm drive?

sfera · 02-22-2006, 06:14 PM

if you are doing gaming owuld go with 10k rpm if not go wthe the 72

teksonline · 02-22-2006, 06:15 PM

for gaming yes, for super high reliability no

Jace · 02-22-2006, 06:15 PM

http://www.techbuilder.org/recipes/s...Arti cle=true

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At the beginning of this recipe, I said I've uncovered significant under-performance in IDE technology, given the prices that retail stores charge for new PCs. In this section, I'll prove it. First, I will describe a "head to head" performance comparison between three systems, one older PC newly configured with a SATA drive, and two new PCs, both with new IDE drives.

The Old PC is my trusty, four-year-old Compaq Presario 5WV254. This system contains an AMD Duron 700 MHz CPU and 512 MB of RAM, and the OS is Windows XP Professional. For this recipe, I upgraded the system with a Maxtor 6Y120 SATA hard drive.

New PC #1 is a Compaq Presario Pentium 4 system. It boasts a 3.0 GHZ Pentium 4 CPU, 512 MB of RAM, and Windows XP Professional. Storage is provided by a 7200-RPM IDE hard drive.

New PC #2 is Compaq Presario SR1100NX. It boasts a 2.53 GHz Intel Celeron CPU, 256 MB of RAM, and Windows XP Professional. The hard drive is a 5400-RPM Seagate Barracuda ST340015A.

You might be forgiven if you expected the new PC to run much faster than my old one. After all, it has a much faster CPU, right? Well, let's take a look.

Test 1

The first test I ran was a generic file transfer. To keep everything "apples to apples," I took the system folder of Windows XP called c: > windows > system32. On any given system running Windows XP, this folder will contain about 330 MB contained in approximately 2,000 files. I created a new folder on the c: drive, then opened a DOS window to issue the manual command copy > c: > windows system32 > *.* which any old-timer knows will copy all the files from the windows > system32 folder to the new folder. Here are the surprising -- and astounding -- results.

PC
Disk type
Time to Transfer

New system #1
IDE
127 seconds

New system #2
IDE
151 seconds

Old system
SATA
44 seconds (!)

Test 2

Next, I performed what I refer to as my "time to boot" test. This test measures the time it takes to boot Windows XP from the opening banner to the initial display of the desktop.

PC
Disk type
Time to XP Boot

New system #1
IDE
28 seconds

New system #2
IDE
28 seconds

Old system
SATA
17 seconds (!)

Note: Due to the "bold assertions" of this recipe (test 2 in particular), it is incumbent upon me to make the following disclaimer: Given that there are different hard-drive manufacturers offering different performance levels, the performance differential I uncovered may be different from the differential given two other hard drives or two other PCs. Furthermore, there are new hard-drive controllers (for example, the Intel 925) that may shrink the performance differential between PCs with IDE and SATA hard drives.

crockett · 02-22-2006, 06:15 PM

I love my 10k rpm drive..

Jace · 02-22-2006, 06:16 PM

jeez, is this a gaming forum now?

all the nerds came out all of the sudden

jollyperv · 02-22-2006, 06:21 PM

Not doing much gaming anymore, but I do pretty heavy video editing, if I could get even just a 5% speed boost in that realm I think it would be worth it.

Also just got a brand spanking new asus motherboard, p5p800 se, after going through 2 in a fucking year due to faulty wiring in my house (plugs not grounded) so the sata controllers should be at least satisfactory.

Jace · 02-22-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv

Not doing much gaming anymore, but I do pretty heavy video editing, if I could get even just a 5% speed boost in that realm I think it would be worth it.

Also just got a brand spanking new asus motherboard, p5p800 se, after going through 2 in a fucking year due to faulty wiring in my house (plugs not grounded) so the sata controllers should be at least satisfactory.

dude, sounds like you need one of those huge backup power things....one of the monster $300-400 ones

they are SOOOOO worth it

4Pics · 02-22-2006, 06:25 PM

they aren't any better, as the hd in most cases is not the problem with your pc being slow.

infecto · 02-22-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

jeez, is this a gaming forum now?

all the nerds came out all of the sudden

We are sorry you don't understand some of the simplest concepts.

Jace · 02-22-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by infecto

We are sorry you don't understand some of the simplest concepts.

sorry my brain thinks at a higher level than games

minusonebit · 02-22-2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv

Also just got a brand spanking new asus motherboard, p5p800 se, after going through 2 in a fucking year due to faulty wiring in my house (plugs not grounded) so the sata controllers should be at least satisfactory.

Damn, you need a UPS. Well worth the extra investment, saves alot of hassle when the lights go out too, you dont lose everything you're working on. Always a plus.

infecto · 02-22-2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

sorry my brain thinks at a higher level than games

I am sorry you somehow saw the word games in this thread and came to the conclusion its a gaming thread. Like I said you don't know jack shit Mr. Troll.

infecto · 02-22-2006, 06:32 PM

BTW a UPS will not really help that much if you have improper grounding or no grounding at all. In fact the more expensive models will not even be usable.

BusterBunny · 02-22-2006, 06:33 PM

sata=great for guba loads....please shoot me they have infected my brain

jollyperv · 02-22-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by infecto

BTW a UPS will not really help that much if you have improper grounding or no grounding at all. In fact the more expensive models will not even be usable.

This is actually exactly what happened...I have a nice APC UPS, and when me and the GF moved into this place (apartment), I plugged everything in and the UPS (it's hers) wouldn't stop buzzing, and the faulty wiring light was on. I just figured that maybe it got dropped or just crapped out. Now, years later I know why it was buzzing.

woj · 02-22-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

http://www.techbuilder.org/recipes/s...Arti cle=true

That sounds like a bullshit test, it doesn't really compare SATA vs IDE interfaces, but just compares old hard drives vs new hard drives. I'm sure if he installed a new IDE drive into those new computers the results would show that performance would be very similar.

Scootermuze · 02-22-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv

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Also just got a brand spanking new asus motherboard, p5p800 se, after going through 2 in a fucking year due to faulty wiring in my house (plugs not grounded) so the sata controllers should be at least satisfactory.

Get some new receptacles and run your neutral wire to the neutral terminal, then to the ground screw...

jigg · 02-22-2006, 07:22 PM

I have to say I'm pleased with my SATA drive. It is definitly, for me at least, feeling much faster than the IDE I had before

minusonebit · 02-22-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv

This is actually exactly what happened...I have a nice APC UPS, and when me and the GF moved into this place (apartment), I plugged everything in and the UPS (it's hers) wouldn't stop buzzing, and the faulty wiring light was on. I just figured that maybe it got dropped or just crapped out. Now, years later I know why it was buzzing.

heh, I think I would have tried to hold the apartment complex responsible. That place should have been wired by a professional, someone didnt know what they were doing. Man, that sucks.

chaze · 02-22-2006, 07:32 PM

Get this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136011

or this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144185

Thank me later

02-22-2006, 06:15 PM	#5
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,818	I love my 10k rpm drive.. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

02-22-2006, 06:33 PM	#15
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02-22-2006, 06:13 PM	#1
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	SATA drives...worth it? Need a new drive pretty soon, is there a noticeable difference between a 7200 rpm drive?

02-22-2006, 06:14 PM	#2
sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	if you are doing gaming owuld go with 10k rpm if not go wthe the 72

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teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	for gaming yes, for super high reliability no

02-22-2006, 06:16 PM	#6
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	jeez, is this a gaming forum now? all the nerds came out all of the sudden

02-22-2006, 06:21 PM	#7
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	Not doing much gaming anymore, but I do pretty heavy video editing, if I could get even just a 5% speed boost in that realm I think it would be worth it. Also just got a brand spanking new asus motherboard, p5p800 se, after going through 2 in a fucking year due to faulty wiring in my house (plugs not grounded) so the sata controllers should be at least satisfactory.

02-22-2006, 06:25 PM	#9
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	they aren't any better, as the hd in most cases is not the problem with your pc being slow.

02-22-2006, 06:32 PM	#14
infecto Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,697	BTW a UPS will not really help that much if you have improper grounding or no grounding at all. In fact the more expensive models will not even be usable.

02-22-2006, 07:22 PM	#19
jigg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,527	I have to say I'm pleased with my SATA drive. It is definitly, for me at least, feeling much faster than the IDE I had before

02-22-2006, 07:32 PM	#21
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	Get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136011 or this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144185 Thank me later