Ever heard of Oskar Schindler? - GoFuckYourself.com

2HousePlague · 02-19-2006, 10:37 PM

Before Spielberg made the Oscar-winning "Schindler's List" in 1993, not too many people in the world had heard of him -- except of course for the 1,200 refugees he saved from slaughter in the concentration camp, and their children, and their children's children.

It's quite the true story: http://www.oskarschindler.com/

It's also quite the film.

I think what I appreciated most about the film was that it presented an image of heroism and courage under fire so much more relatable to common, work-a-day folk than the grandly polarized white-hat/black-hat stories that usually come out of Hollywood. As in life, the picture you see of the truth is ifnfluenced by who YOU are and by what perspective WHO you are brings on the facts. Schindler was a Nazi -- one of them. Or, at least he chose to carry the card for whatever reasons of his own -- business, personal, etc. But, at some point what he decided was "evil" became unberable. He was motivated by conscience and the pursuit of right. You would think, if he had been brought in to some Unter-Fuhrer's office for questioning on his activities that he would have lied or otherwise concealed the truth. But, FOOL, he did not. Such is the nature of "morality" -- when you are infected by it, you think all men must hear reason and that all reasonbale men will acknowledge what is right. But who can say. It may or may not matter to you that Nazi Germany fell soon after all this happened and that Hitler has been "distinguished" as one of the most abhorrent persons to ever walk the earth. It may be that, for all our striving to comprehend the nature of ourselves, and for all the comfort of believing in an absolute morality... that there simply isn't one. History is written by the winners, as they say...

Some stills from the film:

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/165.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/169.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/170.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/171.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/164.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/166.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/167.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/168.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/172.jpg

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9...psecret2gk.jpg

I have heard that gatherings of the families of the people he saved are extraordinary --

cmos · 02-19-2006, 11:16 PM

Great movie.

wedouglas · 02-19-2006, 11:20 PM

Yeah. Schindler's List was based on him and what he did.

Cash · 02-19-2006, 11:46 PM

Never heard of him before the movie, but the movie was great, and so was he.

Lev · 02-19-2006, 11:49 PM

very powerful and touching movie

European Lee · 02-19-2006, 11:55 PM

I loved the sequence towards the start of the movie that this pic is taken from...

How they singled out the girl in bright red was a great peice of cinematography

Regards,

Lee

dbavaria · 02-20-2006, 12:13 AM

Schindler - saved roughly 1100
Sugihara - saved roughly 6000

We've all heard of Schindler, but who has heard of Sugihara. He was equally as important to saving Jews from the Germans. Yet why was he not remembered or honored in the same way?

http://www.eagleman.com/sugihara/

jayeff · 02-20-2006, 12:50 AM

I enjoyed watching Schindler's List because despite the subject, it was after all, an entertaining, feel-good movie. I suppose you could argue that serious movies about serious events would mean far fewer people being exposed to them at all, but does it serve anything except the box office to give us such a distorted view of reality?

We are kidding ourselves if we take comfort from such movies. The number of Oskar Schindlers and the numbers saved by them were tiny. Hollywood also likes make bad things the products of evil men, when in truth the Holocaust was only possible because of the flaws in ordinary people. Just how flawed is clear if you consider that even something on the scale of the Holocaust had insufficient impact on us to prevent the more recent tragedies in the Balkans, Africa and of course, Israel.

dissipate · 02-20-2006, 01:01 AM

One of the best movies ever imho, it's just haunting.

reynold · 02-20-2006, 01:17 AM

very poignant movie... he deserves all honor and respect.

reed_4 · 02-20-2006, 01:45 AM

his life is so interesting to know, am glad a movie like this was made, thanks to Spielberg too.

Sarah_Jayne · 02-20-2006, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

I loved the sequence towards the start of the movie that this pic is taken from...

How they singled out the girl in bright red was a great peice of cinematography

Regards,

Lee

I hated when a car comerical in the UK stole the little girl in red thing to sell cars.

Antonio · 02-20-2006, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

I loved the sequence towards the start of the movie that this pic is taken from...

How they singled out the girl in bright red was a great peice of cinematography

Regards,

Lee

and from there on everybody and their grandmother copied that, from movies to commercials, and everything else you can think of

KamilMax · 02-20-2006, 03:38 AM

everyone should know Oscar Schindler, especialy people from eastern Europe...

The Duck · 02-22-2006, 11:24 AM

nope... just now...

Wiggles · 02-22-2006, 11:46 AM

long movie but well worth it, a masterpiece i think!

czarina · 02-22-2006, 11:46 AM

I loved the movie, and have it on VHS. one of these days I will take the time to get it on DVD.

loverboy · 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM

did that spielberg movie won an academy?

Fetish Gimp · 02-22-2006, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbavaria

Schindler - saved roughly 1100
Sugihara - saved roughly 6000

We've all heard of Schindler, but who has heard of Sugihara. He was equally as important to saving Jews from the Germans. Yet why was he not remembered or honored in the same way?

http://www.eagleman.com/sugihara/

Sugihara's List sounds like a west indian's shopping list.

u-Bob · 02-22-2006, 12:10 PM

I liked the movie... but remember; facts and how they are portrayed in a movie are 2 different things.

Violetta · 02-22-2006, 12:19 PM

It's a great movie! I saw it a month ago! I didn't remember that it was that good!

xNetworx · 02-22-2006, 12:43 PM

Classic movie about a true hero

tristan_D · 02-22-2006, 07:22 PM

I have the CD soundtrack of that film. Everytime I hear the cello playing it puts me in a melancholic mood.

DamageX · 02-22-2006, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

I enjoyed watching Schindler's List because despite the subject, it was after all, an entertaining, feel-good movie. I suppose you could argue that serious movies about serious events would mean far fewer people being exposed to them at all, but does it serve anything except the box office to give us such a distorted view of reality?

We are kidding ourselves if we take comfort from such movies. The number of Oskar Schindlers and the numbers saved by them were tiny. Hollywood also likes make bad things the products of evil men, when in truth the Holocaust was only possible because of the flaws in ordinary people. Just how flawed is clear if you consider that even something on the scale of the Holocaust had insufficient impact on us to prevent the more recent tragedies in the Balkans, Africa and of course, Israel.

While the logic behind this leaves me no choice but to agree with you, that still doesn't diminish the value of the actions of people like Schindler. At the end of the day he risked his life to do something that few to none of his compatriots dared even think about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamilMax

everyone should know Oscar Schindler, especialy people from eastern Europe...

Yes, of course, I drink tea with him every week.

WME · 02-22-2006, 08:39 PM

A very powerful scene for me:

Oskar Schindler: I could have got more out. I could have got more. I don't know. If I'd just... I could have got more.

Itzhak Stern: Oskar, there are eleven hundred people who are alive because of you. Look at them.

Oskar Schindler: If I'd made more money... I threw away so much money. You have no idea. If I'd just...

Itzhak Stern: There will be generations because of what you did.

Oskar Schindler: I didn't do enough!

Itzhak Stern: You did so much.
[Schindler looks at his car]

Oskar Schindler: This car. Goeth would have bought this car. Why did I keep the car? Ten people right there. Ten people. Ten more people.
[removing Nazi pin from lapel]

Oskar Schindler: This pin. Two people. This is gold. Two more people. He would have given me two for it, at least one. One more person. A person, Stern. For this.
[sobbing]

Oskar Schindler: I could have gotten one more person... and I didn't! And I... I didn't!

Thomas1007 · 02-22-2006, 08:52 PM

this was an excellent movie.
Very moving to the plight of Jews at the time.
well shot, great cinematograpy. Stellar acting.
One of my personal favs.

Donny · 02-22-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WME

A very powerful scene for me:

Oskar Schindler: I could have got more out. I could have got more. I don't know. If I'd just... I could have got more.

Itzhak Stern: Oskar, there are eleven hundred people who are alive because of you. Look at them.

Oskar Schindler: If I'd made more money... I threw away so much money. You have no idea. If I'd just...

Itzhak Stern: There will be generations because of what you did.

Oskar Schindler: I didn't do enough!

Itzhak Stern: You did so much.
[Schindler looks at his car]

Oskar Schindler: This car. Goeth would have bought this car. Why did I keep the car? Ten people right there. Ten people. Ten more people.
[removing Nazi pin from lapel]

Oskar Schindler: This pin. Two people. This is gold. Two more people. He would have given me two for it, at least one. One more person. A person, Stern. For this.
[sobbing]

Oskar Schindler: I could have gotten one more person... and I didn't! And I... I didn't!

Yes, that was powerful. Just reading it gives me goosebumps. Takes me right back to the movie.

02-19-2006, 10:37 PM	#1
2HousePlague CURATOR Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the attic Posts: 14,572	Ever heard of Oskar Schindler? Before Spielberg made the Oscar-winning "Schindler's List" in 1993, not too many people in the world had heard of him -- except of course for the 1,200 refugees he saved from slaughter in the concentration camp, and their children, and their children's children. It's quite the true story: http://www.oskarschindler.com/ It's also quite the film. I think what I appreciated most about the film was that it presented an image of heroism and courage under fire so much more relatable to common, work-a-day folk than the grandly polarized white-hat/black-hat stories that usually come out of Hollywood. As in life, the picture you see of the truth is ifnfluenced by who YOU are and by what perspective WHO you are brings on the facts. Schindler was a Nazi -- one of them. Or, at least he chose to carry the card for whatever reasons of his own -- business, personal, etc. But, at some point what he decided was "evil" became unberable. He was motivated by conscience and the pursuit of right. You would think, if he had been brought in to some Unter-Fuhrer's office for questioning on his activities that he would have lied or otherwise concealed the truth. But, FOOL, he did not. Such is the nature of "morality" -- when you are infected by it, you think all men must hear reason and that all reasonbale men will acknowledge what is right. But who can say. It may or may not matter to you that Nazi Germany fell soon after all this happened and that Hitler has been "distinguished" as one of the most abhorrent persons to ever walk the earth. It may be that, for all our striving to comprehend the nature of ourselves, and for all the comfort of believing in an absolute morality... that there simply isn't one. History is written by the winners, as they say... Some stills from the film: http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/165.jpg http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/169.jpg http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/170.jpg http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/171.jpg http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/164.jpg http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/166.jpg http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/167.jpg http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/168.jpg http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/172.jpg http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9...psecret2gk.jpg I have heard that gatherings of the families of the people he saved are extraordinary -- __________________ tada!

02-19-2006, 11:46 PM	#4
Cash Click on my TCG signature Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,825	Never heard of him before the movie, but the movie was great, and so was he. __________________ $9.95/month for 15000 GB bandwidth monthly, unlimited (sub)domains and MySQL5, PHP4/5, 500 GB disk storage! ; use any of these invitation codes: 216263692101; 408636009193; 846090586647; my ICQ 30160426!

02-19-2006, 11:55 PM	#6
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	I loved the sequence towards the start of the movie that this pic is taken from... How they singled out the girl in bright red was a great peice of cinematography Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

02-20-2006, 01:45 AM	#11
reed_4 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 9,640	his life is so interesting to know, am glad a movie like this was made, thanks to Spielberg too. __________________

02-20-2006, 03:38 AM	#14
KamilMax Kamil MVP Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 113	everyone should know Oscar Schindler, especialy people from eastern Europe... __________________ OnlineDatingKings.com - DATING MONEY MACHINE

02-19-2006, 11:16 PM	#2
cmos Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 268	Great movie.

02-19-2006, 11:20 PM	#3
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	Yeah. Schindler's List was based on him and what he did.

02-19-2006, 11:49 PM	#5
Lev Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,545	very powerful and touching movie

02-20-2006, 12:13 AM	#7
dbavaria Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 404	Schindler - saved roughly 1100 Sugihara - saved roughly 6000 We've all heard of Schindler, but who has heard of Sugihara. He was equally as important to saving Jews from the Germans. Yet why was he not remembered or honored in the same way? http://www.eagleman.com/sugihara/

02-20-2006, 12:50 AM	#8
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	I enjoyed watching Schindler's List because despite the subject, it was after all, an entertaining, feel-good movie. I suppose you could argue that serious movies about serious events would mean far fewer people being exposed to them at all, but does it serve anything except the box office to give us such a distorted view of reality? We are kidding ourselves if we take comfort from such movies. The number of Oskar Schindlers and the numbers saved by them were tiny. Hollywood also likes make bad things the products of evil men, when in truth the Holocaust was only possible because of the flaws in ordinary people. Just how flawed is clear if you consider that even something on the scale of the Holocaust had insufficient impact on us to prevent the more recent tragedies in the Balkans, Africa and of course, Israel.

02-20-2006, 01:01 AM	#9
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	One of the best movies ever imho, it's just haunting.

02-20-2006, 01:17 AM	#10
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	very poignant movie... he deserves all honor and respect.

02-22-2006, 11:24 AM	#15
The Duck Adult Content Provider Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 18,243	nope... just now... __________________ Skype Horusmaia ICQ 41555245 Email [email protected]

02-22-2006, 11:46 AM	#16
Wiggles Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14,423	long movie but well worth it, a masterpiece i think! __________________ no sig

02-22-2006, 11:46 AM	#17
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	I loved the movie, and have it on VHS. one of these days I will take the time to get it on DVD.

02-22-2006, 11:49 AM	#18
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	did that spielberg movie won an academy?

02-22-2006, 12:10 PM	#20
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	I liked the movie... but remember; facts and how they are portrayed in a movie are 2 different things.

02-22-2006, 12:19 PM	#21
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	It's a great movie! I saw it a month ago! I didn't remember that it was that good! __________________ M&A Queen

02-22-2006, 12:43 PM	#22
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Classic movie about a true hero

02-22-2006, 07:22 PM	#23
tristan_D Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,865	I have the CD soundtrack of that film. Everytime I hear the cello playing it puts me in a melancholic mood. __________________ Increase your sales. Up to $4 per click.

02-22-2006, 08:39 PM	#25
WME Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,005	A very powerful scene for me: Oskar Schindler: I could have got more out. I could have got more. I don't know. If I'd just... I could have got more. Itzhak Stern: Oskar, there are eleven hundred people who are alive because of you. Look at them. Oskar Schindler: If I'd made more money... I threw away so much money. You have no idea. If I'd just... Itzhak Stern: There will be generations because of what you did. Oskar Schindler: I didn't do enough! Itzhak Stern: You did so much. [Schindler looks at his car] Oskar Schindler: This car. Goeth would have bought this car. Why did I keep the car? Ten people right there. Ten people. Ten more people. [removing Nazi pin from lapel] Oskar Schindler: This pin. Two people. This is gold. Two more people. He would have given me two for it, at least one. One more person. A person, Stern. For this. [sobbing] Oskar Schindler: I could have gotten one more person... and I didn't! And I... I didn't! __________________ Buy Piercing Online - A very large variety of piercing, in various styles Prepare yourself for drug test!

02-22-2006, 08:52 PM	#26
Thomas1007 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BC Canada Posts: 5,542	this was an excellent movie. Very moving to the plight of Jews at the time. well shot, great cinematograpy. Stellar acting. One of my personal favs. __________________ BUY THIS SPOT CONTACT ME FOR DETAILS Contact Email