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2HousePlague 02-19-2006 10:37 PM

Ever heard of Oskar Schindler?
 
Before Spielberg made the Oscar-winning "Schindler's List" in 1993, not too many people in the world had heard of him -- except of course for the 1,200 refugees he saved from slaughter in the concentration camp, and their children, and their children's children.

It's quite the true story: http://www.oskarschindler.com/

It's also quite the film.

I think what I appreciated most about the film was that it presented an image of heroism and courage under fire so much more relatable to common, work-a-day folk than the grandly polarized white-hat/black-hat stories that usually come out of Hollywood. As in life, the picture you see of the truth is ifnfluenced by who YOU are and by what perspective WHO you are brings on the facts. Schindler was a Nazi -- one of them. Or, at least he chose to carry the card for whatever reasons of his own -- business, personal, etc. But, at some point what he decided was "evil" became unberable. He was motivated by conscience and the pursuit of right. You would think, if he had been brought in to some Unter-Fuhrer's office for questioning on his activities that he would have lied or otherwise concealed the truth. But, FOOL, he did not. Such is the nature of "morality" -- when you are infected by it, you think all men must hear reason and that all reasonbale men will acknowledge what is right. But who can say. It may or may not matter to you that Nazi Germany fell soon after all this happened and that Hitler has been "distinguished" as one of the most abhorrent persons to ever walk the earth. It may be that, for all our striving to comprehend the nature of ourselves, and for all the comfort of believing in an absolute morality... that there simply isn't one. History is written by the winners, as they say...


Some stills from the film:

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/165.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/169.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/170.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/171.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/164.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/166.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/167.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/168.jpg

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/172.jpg

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I have heard that gatherings of the families of the people he saved are extraordinary -- :)

cmos 02-19-2006 11:16 PM

Great movie.

wedouglas 02-19-2006 11:20 PM

Yeah. Schindler's List was based on him and what he did.

Cash 02-19-2006 11:46 PM

Never heard of him before the movie, but the movie was great, and so was he. :thumbsup

Lev 02-19-2006 11:49 PM

very powerful and touching movie

European Lee 02-19-2006 11:55 PM

I loved the sequence towards the start of the movie that this pic is taken from...

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/166.jpg

How they singled out the girl in bright red was a great peice of cinematography :)

Regards,

Lee

dbavaria 02-20-2006 12:13 AM

Schindler - saved roughly 1100
Sugihara - saved roughly 6000

We've all heard of Schindler, but who has heard of Sugihara. He was equally as important to saving Jews from the Germans. Yet why was he not remembered or honored in the same way?

http://www.eagleman.com/sugihara/

jayeff 02-20-2006 12:50 AM

I enjoyed watching Schindler's List because despite the subject, it was after all, an entertaining, feel-good movie. I suppose you could argue that serious movies about serious events would mean far fewer people being exposed to them at all, but does it serve anything except the box office to give us such a distorted view of reality?

We are kidding ourselves if we take comfort from such movies. The number of Oskar Schindlers and the numbers saved by them were tiny. Hollywood also likes make bad things the products of evil men, when in truth the Holocaust was only possible because of the flaws in ordinary people. Just how flawed is clear if you consider that even something on the scale of the Holocaust had insufficient impact on us to prevent the more recent tragedies in the Balkans, Africa and of course, Israel.

dissipate 02-20-2006 01:01 AM

One of the best movies ever imho, it's just haunting.

reynold 02-20-2006 01:17 AM

very poignant movie... he deserves all honor and respect.

reed_4 02-20-2006 01:45 AM

his life is so interesting to know, am glad a movie like this was made, thanks to Spielberg too.

Sarah_Jayne 02-20-2006 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee
I loved the sequence towards the start of the movie that this pic is taken from...

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/166.jpg

How they singled out the girl in bright red was a great peice of cinematography :)

Regards,

Lee


I hated when a car comerical in the UK stole the little girl in red thing to sell cars.

Antonio 02-20-2006 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee
I loved the sequence towards the start of the movie that this pic is taken from...

http://www.amazingaerial.com/images/166.jpg

How they singled out the girl in bright red was a great peice of cinematography :)

Regards,

Lee

and from there on everybody and their grandmother copied that, from movies to commercials, and everything else you can think of

KamilMax 02-20-2006 03:38 AM

everyone should know Oscar Schindler, especialy people from eastern Europe...

The Duck 02-22-2006 11:24 AM

nope... just now...

Wiggles 02-22-2006 11:46 AM

long movie but well worth it, a masterpiece i think!

czarina 02-22-2006 11:46 AM

I loved the movie, and have it on VHS. one of these days I will take the time to get it on DVD.

loverboy 02-22-2006 11:49 AM

did that spielberg movie won an academy?

:smokin

Fetish Gimp 02-22-2006 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbavaria
Schindler - saved roughly 1100
Sugihara - saved roughly 6000

We've all heard of Schindler, but who has heard of Sugihara. He was equally as important to saving Jews from the Germans. Yet why was he not remembered or honored in the same way?

http://www.eagleman.com/sugihara/

Sugihara's List sounds like a west indian's shopping list.

u-Bob 02-22-2006 12:10 PM

I liked the movie... but remember; facts and how they are portrayed in a movie are 2 different things.

Violetta 02-22-2006 12:19 PM

It's a great movie! I saw it a month ago! I didn't remember that it was that good!

xNetworx 02-22-2006 12:43 PM

Classic movie about a true hero

tristan_D 02-22-2006 07:22 PM

I have the CD soundtrack of that film. Everytime I hear the cello playing it puts me in a melancholic mood.

DamageX 02-22-2006 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff
I enjoyed watching Schindler's List because despite the subject, it was after all, an entertaining, feel-good movie. I suppose you could argue that serious movies about serious events would mean far fewer people being exposed to them at all, but does it serve anything except the box office to give us such a distorted view of reality?

We are kidding ourselves if we take comfort from such movies. The number of Oskar Schindlers and the numbers saved by them were tiny. Hollywood also likes make bad things the products of evil men, when in truth the Holocaust was only possible because of the flaws in ordinary people. Just how flawed is clear if you consider that even something on the scale of the Holocaust had insufficient impact on us to prevent the more recent tragedies in the Balkans, Africa and of course, Israel.

While the logic behind this leaves me no choice but to agree with you, that still doesn't diminish the value of the actions of people like Schindler. At the end of the day he risked his life to do something that few to none of his compatriots dared even think about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamilMax
everyone should know Oscar Schindler, especialy people from eastern Europe...

Yes, of course, I drink tea with him every week.

WME 02-22-2006 08:39 PM

A very powerful scene for me:

Oskar Schindler: I could have got more out. I could have got more. I don't know. If I'd just... I could have got more.

Itzhak Stern: Oskar, there are eleven hundred people who are alive because of you. Look at them.

Oskar Schindler: If I'd made more money... I threw away so much money. You have no idea. If I'd just...

Itzhak Stern: There will be generations because of what you did.

Oskar Schindler: I didn't do enough!

Itzhak Stern: You did so much.
[Schindler looks at his car]

Oskar Schindler: This car. Goeth would have bought this car. Why did I keep the car? Ten people right there. Ten people. Ten more people.
[removing Nazi pin from lapel]

Oskar Schindler: This pin. Two people. This is gold. Two more people. He would have given me two for it, at least one. One more person. A person, Stern. For this.
[sobbing]

Oskar Schindler: I could have gotten one more person... and I didn't! And I... I didn't!

Thomas1007 02-22-2006 08:52 PM

this was an excellent movie.
Very moving to the plight of Jews at the time.
well shot, great cinematograpy. Stellar acting.
One of my personal favs.
:2 cents: :thumbsup

Donny 02-22-2006 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WME
A very powerful scene for me:

Oskar Schindler: I could have got more out. I could have got more. I don't know. If I'd just... I could have got more.

Itzhak Stern: Oskar, there are eleven hundred people who are alive because of you. Look at them.

Oskar Schindler: If I'd made more money... I threw away so much money. You have no idea. If I'd just...

Itzhak Stern: There will be generations because of what you did.

Oskar Schindler: I didn't do enough!

Itzhak Stern: You did so much.
[Schindler looks at his car]

Oskar Schindler: This car. Goeth would have bought this car. Why did I keep the car? Ten people right there. Ten people. Ten more people.
[removing Nazi pin from lapel]

Oskar Schindler: This pin. Two people. This is gold. Two more people. He would have given me two for it, at least one. One more person. A person, Stern. For this.
[sobbing]

Oskar Schindler: I could have gotten one more person... and I didn't! And I... I didn't!

Yes, that was powerful. Just reading it gives me goosebumps. Takes me right back to the movie.


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