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Ron Bennett 02-03-2006 02:26 AM

There is no need for Myspace to contact anyone ... all they need do is filter out links / embedded to known objectionable content in people's myspace profiles on the fly; I'll bet they already have this ability to some extent now.

Yes, dynamic filtering costs money, but then MySpace has plenty of that to burn LOL!

Ron

budz 02-03-2006 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Wanna bet? Unless we are talking about hosts who deal with shady clients, they ALL would have bowed down to MySpace. Every single one of them.

They may come into this thread stating otherwise, but the bottom line is that when a company that was just sold for nearly $600 Million asks a small webhost to do something, they are going to do it.

Right or wrong, they are going to do it.

wow, are you indirectly calling me ( the victim ) a shady client?

Damn.

http://press.comedycentral.com/image...ecial_Ed_1.jpg

let's hope comedycentral doesnt goatse that

Matt 26z 02-03-2006 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
It was at this very moment that i realized, you have to be fucking with us, cuz no one is really that stupid.

I used to work for two fairly well known mainstream hosts. Both would pull shit off clients servers at the request of large companies even when the owners of the hosts didn't agree with their claims at all.

Once the webhost is notified of something, they are now involved. It's safer to become uninvolved again than to worry about what a virtual hosting client thinks of what you did.

Sucks for everyone involved, but that's life.

Babagirls 02-03-2006 02:55 AM

lol i told you to get rid of that host. shittiest fuckin host i've ever known & shady.

budz 02-03-2006 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls
lol i told you to get rid of that host. shittiest fuckin host i've ever known & shady.

didn't think they would've done some crazy shit like that.

but yeah, they've definately had their downs..

phonesex 02-03-2006 03:03 AM

theres plent of good host that won't do that shit.

OneHungLo 02-03-2006 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by budz
The webhost is Webgemshosting.


Who the fuck is Webgemhosting???

Seriously...if you're some noob starting out go with a reliable host like swiftwill.com

budz 02-03-2006 04:04 AM

lol.. if you've never heard of them
I don't know what you're talking about


LOL

AdultInsider Cloner 02-03-2006 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bbe
No, Tom does indeed control the internet.


LOL! Tom invented the internet.....therefore he has the right to control it!

AdultInsider Cloner 02-03-2006 04:09 AM

Hey budz, I'd try Naughty Bandwidth......I've only heard good things about them....tell tracy that Cloner sent ya and she'll hook ya up ;)

budz 02-03-2006 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultInsider Cloner
Hey budz, I'd try Naughty Bandwidth......I've only heard good things about them....tell tracy that Cloner sent ya and she'll hook ya up ;)


Thx for the suggestion.. I'll look into it if what I'm on doesn't cut it.

Once again A big thanks to SANDMAN! from www.adultsitebrokers.com

for stepping up to host some shit that other people quiver in fear from. :warning

If you need some traffic or banners checkout www.adultsitetraffic.com

Zuss 02-03-2006 04:38 AM

Good to know that wenbgemshosting is shit...

budz 02-03-2006 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuss
Good to know that wenbgemshosting is shit...


so that's the point I was making.. I was wondering..

budz 02-03-2006 05:38 AM

little things mean a lot - boyz II men

fuzzylogic 02-03-2006 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuss
Good to know that wenbgemshosting is shit...

they are shit

not total shit, but pretty fucking bad.

they are very popular with newbies breaking into the tgp world on another forum.

furthermore, they datacenter (as of last summer) is located on the west florida coast. they go down often in the summer.

u-Bob 02-03-2006 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budz
The webhost is Webgemshosting.

drop them ASAP.

fuzzylogic 02-03-2006 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Fuck the more i think about this situation it pisses me off...

heres an even better example..

Your neighbour has a hidden cam setup to look into your bedroom and watch you.. he gets mad because you put up a lamp in the window to block the view, so he cotacts your landlord has him break into your apartment and remove the lamp that is blocking the neighbour from filming you and selling the video for profit..

HAHA perfect example..

not perfect.
in ur example the voyeur is commanding. in the real life issue of this thread the filmed person commands a different landlord to break into the filmers apt and remove the cam.

Pornwolf 02-03-2006 07:45 AM

That's some bullshit. Switch hosts asap. Fucking mainstream hosting companies are pussies. I can't stand them when it comes to certain things.

AmateurFlix 02-03-2006 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Wanna bet? Unless we are talking about hosts who deal with shady clients, they ALL would have bowed down to MySpace. Every single one of them.

I'm not going to call you an idiot but it's obvious that you really have no idea at all what you're talking about here.

chadglni 02-03-2006 10:18 AM

This idiot is still in here defending his retarded ass ideas? :1orglaugh

lelahosting 02-03-2006 10:24 AM

damn. they never should have disabled that whole directory

glad you are switching/switched hosts.

lelahosting 02-03-2006 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf
That's some bullshit. Switch hosts asap. Fucking mainstream hosting companies are pussies. I can't stand them when it comes to certain things.

thats the funny thing..he used an adult host

seeric 02-03-2006 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan
I will give you a free site hosting just to piss them off :thumbsup

Hit me up...


hahahaha you rock, i was just thinking the same thing.

Stallion 02-03-2006 10:41 AM

Drop those host like yesterday. That is fucked up.

budz 02-03-2006 12:59 PM

wow, webgems updated their AUP and restored access to my files.. hm

Brad Mitchell 02-03-2006 01:07 PM

That is GARBAGE that your host did that, most especially without discussing it with you first.

Brad

gregalicious 02-03-2006 01:10 PM

Hey Matt, nice trick of saying "I agree with you 100%" and then promptly not agreeing at all. You're also not listening. Sometimes people who hotlink your content are kind of doing you a favor, and if you have everything watermarked it might be to your benefit. But that's the content provider's decision.

Whether he got ancillary benefit, or some money for advertising to MySpace users, that's totally his right.

Matt's right about one thing, MOST, MOST hosts would have buckled. I had it happen to me. Big host. The second a big corporation sends them a letter, trust me, a lawyer's written it and it probably has 'copyright infringement' or 'cease and desist' your host is going to shut it down. It's not fair, but it's true.

The fact it's porn and it wasn't really making you any money means that suing MySpace for trying to frustrate your business probably won't amount to much, but if you do, you're certainly in the right.

Do your best to fuck up the hosting company though :D

pocketkangaroo 02-03-2006 01:22 PM

Surprised there is no response from WebGems on the board. I know they aren't large, but they do frequent the adult boards. They are pretty prominent at some others.

They have taken a lot of shit over the past year or so I know. They have had times where everything went down for hours and had some pretty lame excuses for it. However, their customer service has always been real helpful and fast and I've had minimal problems at most with them.

SmokeyTheBear 02-03-2006 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregalicious
Matt's right about one thing, MOST, MOST hosts would have buckled. I had it happen to me. Big host. The second a big corporation sends them a letter, trust me, a lawyer's written it and it probably has 'copyright infringement' or 'cease and desist' your host is going to shut it down. It's not fair, but it's true.

Umm i sure hope not.. I can see if it was a question about ownership , but it isnt. Its a pretty clear case of someone who STOLE something ( myspace ) then used it without permission , then asked the person he stole it from to replace the stolen goods with BETTER stolen goods.. Its ludicrous , it should be criminal. Imagine going to your local store , stealing something , then going back int he store and demanding more stolen goods because the first thing you stole wasn't good enough

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregalicious
The fact it's porn and it wasn't really making you any money means that suing MySpace for trying to frustrate your business probably won't amount to much, but if you do, you're certainly in the right.

Myspace is actively selling porn, they are nothing more than a porn site as far as im concerned now. basically myspace is just a new version of AFF, nothing more.. if AFF stole your shit then contacted your host and had them delete your files you would flip..

Any lawyer worth their weight would be creaming his pants about now..

Matt 26z 02-03-2006 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregalicious
Do your best to fuck up the hosting company though :D

From the sounds of it, this is a host that likes to keep on the down low and deal with clients who are angels. The percentage of hosts who like to keep the peace is actually quite high. They just don't have the resources (or the balls) to stand up and take one for the client.

It's simple risk vs. reward.

The risk of telling MySpace to fuck off isn't worth impressing a virtual hosting client. This is a fact at the average webhost.

Having your own box would buy you more time at most hosts. How much time depends on the host.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gregalicious
Hey Matt, nice trick of saying "I agree with you 100%" and then promptly not agreeing at all.

No, no, no. What I was agreeing 100% with was the right of a file owner to change the file in general without permission from those hotlinking. Your file, your right to change it.

There are VERY FEW instances where I wouldn't take the side of the person being hotlinked, but I just can't give this guy any sympathy in this particular case considering everything as a whole. This goes beyond simple hotlinking and the normal recourse of action.

Hardlinks 02-03-2006 02:09 PM

What a fucked thing to do as a host.

Doctor Dre 02-03-2006 02:09 PM

150 bullshit moves from hosts

Matt 26z 02-03-2006 02:11 PM

I should have brought this example up sooner....

What if I were to hotlink a sponsor banner for my GFY sig without their permission... Then the sponsor notices I've done this and finds a way to do a popup through a .jpg file so that they can get some free advertising on GFY. Would it be unreasonable for GFY to be upset at such a company?

This is the SAME THING.

Doctor Dre 02-03-2006 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Wanna bet? Unless we are talking about hosts who deal with shady clients, they ALL would have bowed down to MySpace. Every single one of them.

They may come into this thread stating otherwise, but the bottom line is that when a company that was just sold for nearly $600 Million asks a small webhost to do something, they are going to do it.

Right or wrong, they are going to do it.

Ok now you are just dumb. I can say idiot too.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about at ALL. No host that respects itself would do that. On a virtual host, probably, but no way on a dedicated one.

When there is a problem, profetional host email you and give you 48 hours notice to take action if something is breakign their TOS. That's it and that's all.

Your experience with 2 mainstream shitty hosts blind you...

budz 02-03-2006 02:20 PM

All I know is it's on and poppin..

Matt 26z 02-03-2006 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budz
All I know is it's on and poppin..

LMAO!

See, exactly my point. You are not the victim here.

::: sigh ::: Only on GFY...

sandman! 02-03-2006 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
I should have brought this example up sooner....

What if I were to hotlink a sponsor banner for my GFY sig without their permission... Then the sponsor notices I've done this and finds a way to do a popup through a .jpg file so that they can get some free advertising on GFY. Would it be unreasonable for GFY to be upset at such a company?

This is the SAME THING.

gfy would can your account or disable your sig not go crying to the sponsor.

stoka 02-03-2006 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
I should have brought this example up sooner....

What if I were to hotlink a sponsor banner for my GFY sig without their permission... Then the sponsor notices I've done this and finds a way to do a popup through a .jpg file so that they can get some free advertising on GFY. Would it be unreasonable for GFY to be upset at such a company?

This is the SAME THING.

What if your kid every evening sneaks into my backyard and climbs on cherry tree to watch me and my wife fucking. Should we stop fucking :pimp so your kid stops being exposed to porn :upsidedow

budz 02-03-2006 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
LMAO!

See, exactly my point. You are not the victim here.

::: sigh ::: Only on GFY...

I've been victimized.. and exploited it.


http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Avictimized

http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aexploited

KrisKross 02-03-2006 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
I should have brought this example up sooner....

What if I were to hotlink a sponsor banner for my GFY sig without their permission... Then the sponsor notices I've done this and finds a way to do a popup through a .jpg file so that they can get some free advertising on GFY. Would it be unreasonable for GFY to be upset at such a company?

This is the SAME THING.

No. No it isn't. First, very few people here (if any) are saying that MySpace was in the wrong for being upset about what budz did. What everyone here is bothered by is the fact that the hosting company, no questions asked, removed the files from his account when MySpace told them to do so.

In your example, it wouldn't be unreasonable for GFY to be upset, just as it wasn't unreasonable for MySpace to be upset. What would be unreasonable is if GFY were to go straight to the company's host and have the files removed.

However, in your example, GFY would simply change out your sig, much like MySpace should simply have removed the hotlinked content from their site.


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