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Old 01-26-2006, 09:25 AM   #1
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Why Grapplers will beat strikers 9 outta 10

https://youtube.com/w/D.-vs.-Dion?v=F...M2U&search=mma

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Old 01-26-2006, 09:29 AM   #2
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Because they like to hump them into submission?
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Edge you might wanna update your sig (jan 15th).. :D
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It seem the guy new a little BJJ with some wrestling although it was very effective.

It is kinda of funny that people where yelling no choking allowed.

Fucked that.... I would have wrapped him up in a Peruvian necktie.
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Old 01-26-2006, 09:32 AM   #5
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Because they like to hump them into submission?
Ignorant of the power that is BJJ.
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Edge you might wanna update your sig (jan 15th).. :D

lmao..... oops

That's what I get for being a lazy bastard......

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It seem the guy new a little BJJ with some wrestling although it was very effective.

It is kinda of funny that people where yelling no choking allowed.

Fucked that.... I would have wrapped him up in a Peruvian necktie.
Werd my brother.

Though, single and double leg takedowns are staples of BJJ.

"Man, stop grappling!" HAHAHA

So many places for armbars during that fight, but choking a bitch out till they shit themselves is the way to go.
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lmao..... oops

That's what I get for being a lazy bastard......

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Nah, I was watching Dodgeball when I fell asleep last night and now I can't get that line (about "humping them into submission") out of my damn head




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As in all things - no single tool is sufficient for every situation. wasn't it Bruce Lee who said something like 'absorb what works, discard everything else'
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heheh that guy was definitely using the ground 'n pound... and nice use of the headbutt when necessary.
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Nah, I was watching Dodgeball when I fell asleep last night and now I can't get that line (about "humping them into submission") out of my damn head




LOL! Killer line!
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As in all things - no single tool is sufficient for every situation. wasn't it Bruce Lee who said something like 'absorb what works, discard everything else'
Please refer to UFC 1 - 3.

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so which one of those ladies was the striker?
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so which one of those ladies was the striker?
The one who's friends kept wanting to stand it up.

Or better, the one getting the shit ground and pounded out him, also the one crying about not wanting to be choked out at the end.

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heheh that guy was definitely using the ground 'n pound... and nice use of the headbutt when necessary.

Agreed....... loved the hollow thud you hear on the 1st headbutt..... NICE
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also, funny to see all those "gangsta" trying to seperate the 2 fighters and then pussying out after the kid on top, exhausted and harmless, screamed his rage...
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The one who's friends kept wanting to stand it up.

Or better, the one getting the shit ground and pounded out him, also the one crying about not wanting to be choked out at the end.

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please, and what would qualify him as a striker? Because he couldnt grapple? I mean.. they both tried some punches... Lets get the best boxer against the best BBJ guy and we will know once and for all.. Until then, all im seeing is 4th rate boxer, representing the "strikers', fighting against the world's best BBJ or judo guys... ofcourse they'll lose...
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please, and what would qualify him as a striker? Because he couldnt grapple? I mean.. they both tried some punches... Lets get the best boxer against the best BBJ guy and we will know once and for all.. Until then, all im seeing is 4th rate boxer, representing the "strikers', fighting against the world's best BBJ or judo guys... ofcourse they'll lose...
Please refer to UFC 1. Ranked boxer got his ass handed to him, without hitting once.
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ranked? ok, I'll give it to you .. he was a 3rd rate one... go on Boxrec.com and check his record... not good..

I remember Tank Abbot.. he had some success.. this guy wouldnt last a round agaisnt the top heavyweights right now... and the divison is rather week now...

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ranked? ok, I'll give it to you .. he was a 3rd rate one... go on Boxrec.com and check his record... not good..
So, the outcome would have been different?

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I did make the post 9 outta 10, giving the striker "A puncher's chance".
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I'm no longer into fighting but from experience I have seen that a guy that can take a hit and grapple generally ends up on top.

My brother avoids fights the best he can but when he gets in them I rarely see him lose. He manages to put some sort of sleeper/choke hold on just about everyone that tries to fuck with him. Fights over in 15 seconds or less.

All stupid shit anyway unless its a sanctioned event.
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So, the outcome would have been different?

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I did make the post 9 outta 10, giving the striker "A puncher's chance".

I remember Tank Abbot.. he had some success.. this guy wouldnt last a round agaisnt the top heavyweights right now... and the divison is rather week now...

Ofcourse the outcome would have been different...
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graplers will win 9 of 10 times cuz they eliminate the opponents advantage by taking them to the ground, and making it a close quarter movement fight, you move the opponent where you want them, then beat the snot out of their head..
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I'll tell you this.. get Floyd Mayweather.. train him to counter punch any legg attack from a grappler... (no one quicker than Floyd) ..train him for couple of weeks against grapplers... and im putting my money on him against anyone of his size....

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I'll tell you this.. get Floyd Mayweather.. train him to counter punch any legg attack from a grappler... (no one quicker than Floyd) ..train him for couple of weeks against grapplers... and im putting my money on him against anyone of his size....

Bro,

Then, he would be MMA, meaning, to learn how to defeat a grappler is become one. Pretty simple, and it's what everyone has done in MMA.

Mirko Cro Cop is a prime example of a striker that has learned BJJ, and has an awesome Sprawl and Brawl.



It would also take longer than some weeks. try a year or so. Boxing aint' shit compared to learning grappling.
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The effectiveness of using grappling techniques is obvious, too bad it just looks so damned gay. Two guys laying on the ring floor with their legs wrapped around each other twisting and gyrating. Yeah.

Might be more effective (in many cases), but I'd so rather watch kickboxing any day of the week.
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The effectiveness of using grappling techniques is obvious, too bad it just looks so damned gay. Two guys laying on the ring floor with their legs wrapped around each other twisting and gyrating. Yeah.

Might be more effective (in many cases), but I'd so rather watch kickboxing any day of the week.
So do alot of ppl, but MMA is growing. TUF on Spike TV for the UFC is one way.
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also, funny to see all those "gangsta" trying to seperate the 2 fighters and then pussying out after the kid on top, exhausted and harmless, screamed his rage...
You have 0 clue what you are talking about. The guy wasn't "exhausted and harmless" he could have beaten every one of them one at a time in a row without being "exhausted and harmless". He was yelling because he had the guy right where he wanted him for a second time and they were trying to stand it back up. It's all about getting close, limiting the damage they can do by punching, and controlling every aspect of the fight. I would have told them the same thing.

As far as top boxers beating BJJ guys you are fucking lost. There is a reason boxers stay in the ring, with gloves and a ref. There is also a reason they can't kick, tackle, or anything else. Straight boxing is the pussiest of all fights and you try to compare them to MMA fighters?
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You have 0 clue what you are talking about. The guy wasn't "exhausted and harmless" he could have beaten every one of them one at a time in a row without being "exhausted and harmless". He was yelling because he had the guy right where he wanted him for a second time and they were trying to stand it back up. It's all about getting close, limiting the damage they can do by punching, and controlling every aspect of the fight. I would have told them the same thing.

As far as top boxers beating BJJ guys you are fucking lost. There is a reason boxers stay in the ring, with gloves and a ref. There is also a reason they can't kick, tackle, or anything else. Straight boxing is the pussiest of all fights and you try to compare them to MMA fighters?
Werd, couldn't have said it any better. You could give Bas a run for his job, or his exjob anyway.
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Werd, couldn't have said it any better. You could give Bas a run for his job, or his exjob anyway.
Like CD said it's a damn shame the best fighting techniques look the worst but I guess that's good or everyone would be doing it. I don't know BJJ but I grew up with many of the same principles given to me. If someone was giving me shit I would cry tears of joy if they got in a boxing stance.
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No shit! What do you think the guys over at K-1 are doing? Some of the best strikers in the world are converting to MMA.
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I'd rather watch MMA, most fights end up on the ground, whoever cannot move on the ground usually loses.. I've lost myself to people who can move better on the ground, they were a better fighter...

Last ground beef I had I was pretty much even aside from me breaking a $400 watch.. the dude was tough on the ground too and we both pinned each other at points, but It turned when he had me in a headlock and I was able to swing up and hit him in his head about 10 times and he let go. After that my club security friends came and pulled us apart..
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Old 01-26-2006, 10:33 AM   #47
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I'd rather watch MMA, most fights end up on the ground, whoever cannot move on the ground usually loses.. I've lost myself to people who can move better on the ground, they were a better fighter...

Last ground beef I had I was pretty much even aside from me breaking a $400 watch.. the dude was tough on the ground too and we both pinned each other at points, but It turned when he had me in a headlock and I was able to swing up and hit him in his head about 10 times and he let go. After that my club security friends came and pulled us apart..
I've seen your pictures, you better keep it on the ground.
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Old 01-26-2006, 10:33 AM   #48
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The effectiveness of using grappling techniques is obvious, too bad it just looks so damned gay. Two guys laying on the ring floor with their legs wrapped around each other twisting and gyrating. Yeah.

Might be more effective (in many cases), but I'd so rather watch kickboxing any day of the week.
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I'd rather watch MMA, most fights end up on the ground, whoever cannot move on the ground usually loses.. I've lost myself to people who can move better on the ground, they were a better fighter...

Last ground beef I had I was pretty much even aside from me breaking a $400 watch.. the dude was tough on the ground too and we both pinned each other at points, but It turned when he had me in a headlock and I was able to swing up and hit him in his head about 10 times and he let go. After that my club security friends came and pulled us apart..
Two things my brother...

1. I will show you about 3 or 4 proven escapes to the dreaded headlock that uses no stength, just leverage.

2. I had no idea you were into MMA, we really need to spend more time chilling next time not in a club with naked girilies near us.
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Old 01-26-2006, 10:38 AM   #50
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Two things my brother...

1. I will show you about 3 or 4 proven escapes to the dreaded headlock that uses no stength, just leverage.

2. I had no idea you were into MMA, we really need to spend more time chilling next time not in a club with naked girilies near us.
I'll take you up on that Anthony, always cool seeing you, even with all those naked chicks around..
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