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Libertine · 01-26-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Oh btw, I'm not a professional.

I have trained in the following.

Aikido, Goju, MT, Judo, GJJ/BJJ. Due to injuries, lately I've been training my right and left pointer fingers, on my FN FiveSeven

You sound like you're suffering from tiny dick syndrome.

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnywussy

haha I was suppossed to be there today! I'll ring you up next time and we can split some more hairs on the grappling/striker debate.

Werd, best time of the year to be down here, is right now!

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

You sound like you're suffering from tiny dick syndrome.

I'm taking you are talking from personal experience.

What have you done to correct it in yourself?

Was it the gun, the marital arts, or the Breitling that gave it away? or all three?

Doctor Dre · 01-26-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I don't know if anyone cares or not...

ROYCE GRACIE will be fighitng the current UFC CHAMP MATT HUGHES next UFC!

You gotta be kidding me ?!? this will be one of the biggest fights in UFC

Libertine · 01-26-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I'm taking you are talking from personal experience.

What have you done to correct it in yourself?

Was it the gun, the marital arts, or the Breitling that gave it away? or all three?

I have done absolutely nothing to compensate for my tiny dick. Ever since I found out it makes it easier to get girls to let me do anal on them, I've been perfectly happy with it.

As for you, what gave it away wasn't so much one specific thing, but rather the frantic "look at me being a tough guy" of this whole thread.

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

You gotta be kidding me ?!? this will be one of the biggest fights in UFC

When have I ever lied to you Mart?

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 03:01 PM

That fight is so fucking lame..

All those people saying "break it up" and dissing becasue he was wrestling...

Did they not realize the one guy was getting his ass handed to em?

That other guy was no match for the wrestler... Totally outclassed..

The only thing that scared me was the other guy's boys..

I was cringing on the thought that one of them would run up and kick the grappler in the head....

But I agree the grapper wins 9 out of 10 times.

That 10th time is when the the boys of the guy getting his ass kicked jump in.

Always scarry in the street..

But in competition, no match.....

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

I have done absolutely nothing to compensate for my tiny dick. Ever since I found out it makes it easier to get girls to let me do anal on them, I've been perfectly happy with it.

As for you, what gave it away wasn't so much one specific thing, but rather the frantic "look at me being a tough guy" of this whole thread.

So, let me get this straight. I have not threatend anyone to fight, (Except warchild, but we already agreed a year ago to do so when we crossed paths in a training capacity), I have not called anyone an idiot except skinnywussy, who both of us are chatting to each other in icq while are doing this. With the exception, of the last post about not being a professional fighter, stated anything other than what I've trained in, which btw is on the THIRD page, where am I doing the Look at me being a tough guy?

Wow, you got some issues there buddy other than having a small dick.

Libertine · 01-26-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

So, let me get this straight. I have not threatend anyone to fight, (Except warchild, but we already agreed a year ago to do so when we crossed paths in a training capacity), I have not called anyone an idiot except skinnywussy, who both of us are chatting to each other in icq while do this. With the exception, of the last post about not being a professional fighter, stated anything other than what I've trained in, which btw is on the THIRD page, and I'm doing the Look at me being a tough guy?

Wow, you got some issues there buddy other than having a small dick.

You posted a picture of your gun and are a martial arts fanboy desperately trying to convince the world "his" martial art is best. Yes, you're doing the "Look at me being a tough guy" thing. And I know it when I see it, because it's what I did myself when I was 15.

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

You posted a picture of your gun and are a martial arts fanboy desperately trying to convince the world "his" martial art is best. Yes, you're doing the "Look at me being a tough guy" thing. And I know it when I see it, because it's what I did myself when I was 15.

Huh? So, you gathered my martial is best from me listing I studied:
Goju, Aikido, and Muay Thai, Judo and GJJ/BJJ

????? HUH? That's 5 marital arts, you idiot.

I posted my gun to Warchild, to whom I have had conversations before, and KNOW loves guns which his favorite being a HK USP .40, a picture of my new toy that I know he will enjoy seeing.

Okay, you seriously need to shut the fuck up, and talk to somebody about having really serious self worth issues.

So you are like what? 15 and a half? Good job reading into something that isn't there!

Libertine · 01-26-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Huh? So, you gathered my martial is best from me listing I studied:
Goju, Aikido, and Muay Thai, Judo and GJJ/BJJ

????? HUH? That's 5 marital arts, you idiot.

I posted my gun to Warchild, to whom I have had conversations before, and KNOW loves guns which his favorite being a HK USP .40, a picture of my new toy that I know he will enjoy seeing.

Okay, you seriously need to shut the fuck up, and talk to somebody about having really serious self worth issues.

So you are like what? 15 and a half? Good job reading into something that isn't there!

Another sure sign of small penis syndrome is reacting frantically to any possible insult.

who · 01-26-2006, 03:21 PM

Raven · 01-26-2006, 03:34 PM

I know my good friends, Kirik Jenness and Dave Roy, two of the MMA originals.... would agree with you, Anthony....I believe Kirik still fights and they are working on another book....top secret, but soon to be released....Fit To Fight was a real best seller...

WarChild · 01-26-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I posted my gun to Warchild, to whom I have had conversations before, and KNOW loves guns which his favorite being a HK USP .40, a picture of my new toy that I know he will enjoy seeing.

Actually, I like SIG P229 in .40, but close enough.

I've been 5 weeks on a controlled diet, working out 3 times a week and running an hour a day. Feeling better each day. Have joined but not gone yet to a BJJ class down here.

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 04:36 PM

Anthony. Ive seen some pics of you.

Youd be a good addition to the Boneprone Family.. The non-adult aspect..

We are a bunch of Asians that have fought in smaller competition Mixed Martial Arts competitons...

Youd be a great addition.. Ive seen your posts over the years, and knew you had a background.. You still compete??

I personally dont. Havent in 5 years. Too damn fat, and in all seriousness wasnt that good. But I have fought.

My cousins and friends however do. And we even were starting our own promotion for a bit.. But we all had kids, got married and things are in the back burner..

Wish I would have met you in Vegas. Would have been cool to shoot the shit with you.

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 04:37 PM

Correction.. 6 years...

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 04:39 PM

Anthony.. Did you surf GFY back in the day when I used to post pics of the family in the cage matches?? Knocking people out and then doing the BP4L handsign??

Believe it or not, there was a pretty good gimmick we had going for a while.
Some of my buds now train out here in portland with Quest... Imsure you have heard of them.

Good competitons.. I posted pics and theads about it years and years ago here.

Not sure if you were around GFY back then or not?

For those that dont know Quest it the school Randy Couture runs.

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

Anthony.. Did you surf GFY back in the day when I used to post pics of the family in the cage matches?? Knocking people out and then doing the BP4L handsign??

Believe it or not, there was a pretty good gimmick we had going for a while.

Good competitons.. I posted pics and theads about it years and years ago here.

Not sure if you were around GFY back then or not?

Absolutely bro, I was lurking mostly back then. Your cousin was bad ass!

Brown Belt in Judo, if I remember right. Damn good MMA fighter!

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

Another sure sign of small penis syndrome is reacting frantically to any possible insult.

Yeah, Okay. You're the expert!

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

I know my good friends, Kirik Jenness and Dave Roy, two of the MMA originals.... would agree with you, Anthony....I believe Kirik still fights and they are working on another book....top secret, but soon to be released....Fit To Fight was a real best seller...

I'm flying Dave and Kirik's link in my sig, as you know.

Can't wait for the new book, the first was bad ass!

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Actually, I like SIG P229 in .40, but close enough.

I've been 5 weeks on a controlled diet, working out 3 times a week and running an hour a day. Feeling better each day. Have joined but not gone yet to a BJJ class down here.

Fuck, I thought about it a second, and it's me that loves the HK USP .40! LOL

You and Rinaldo love the P229.

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Absolutely bro, I was lurking mostly back then. Your cousin was bad ass!

Brown Belt in Judo, if I remember right. Damn good MMA fighter!

YEah man. He's truely mixed. Brown in Judo.. We leared that shit as kids.

But at the age of about 22 he took up Jujtsu.... It was from a school that didnt use belts.. But he would have been black.

But they didnt compete.

Then he joined a "mixed Martial arts" school that did everything. Thai Kickboxing, Brazillain Grappling, Judo, Jujitsu, wrestling, and it really sculped him.. Did that for many years..

Took him to the competitions.. I was Judo as well, and trained very little with the mixed people, just enough to get in competiton and get my ass kicked.

I didnt have the killer instinct.. I can defend myself, but the displine in the training to fight in the cage was not for me.

But my cousins it was.. They did it for many years.. My friends later joined Quest, and still compete..

But my cousins havent been in for a few years now. We all got married and have kids.

Believe it or not my cousin Exxotica who I speak of, and who used to post here at GFY actually married one of the better top Female Fighters!!

He and her are training again, to get him back in Fight shape.

But its been almost 3 years. He's about 60 pounds heavier now.

Lots of work.

Ive- we've meet and been with Randy Couture on several occasions.

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 04:50 PM

Reading more into this im seeing its turning more into a gun thread.

LOL....

Nice gun pics....

Sig P239 is what I have.... Not the best looking gun, but I have small hands, and it's one of the only things I feel comfortable shooting or I should say owning.

That and the Glock 23

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

Anthony. Ive seen some pics of you.

Youd be a good addition to the Boneprone Family.. The non-adult aspect..

We are a bunch of Asians that have fought in smaller competition Mixed Martial Arts competitons...

Youd be a great addition.. Ive seen your posts over the years, and knew you had a background.. You still compete??

I personally dont. Havent in 5 years. Too damn fat, and in all seriousness wasnt that good. But I have fought.

My cousins and friends however do. And we even were starting our own promotion for a bit.. But we all had kids, got married and things are in the back burner..

Wish I would have met you in Vegas. Would have been cool to shoot the shit with you.

My brother, you did meet me in Vegas. You'll see when I post pics of me and Kimbo.

I hear you about things taking precedence. I'm hoping to start back up with ATT once my back heals.

Though, I got a call this weekend, my twins just got their 4th stripe in BJJ!

Our first and rather too fast meeting was at this place, Player's Ball. We sponsored it and I worked the front door to make sure there were no problems this year. This pic is from Donny, who's on the right, me in the middle, and SPANNOW on the left.

[img]http://www.***************.com/vegas2006-03/slides/Vegas2006-03-0009.JPG[/img]

Me with Kimbo at Internext

You know us Azns have to stick together.

I'm just glad I don't have to call and leave a message of me moaning on the phone. Yes, I remember how to get into the original BP Family.

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 04:53 PM

Holy fhuck......... You were working at the door???? Was that you that said
"Bow to the Power" to me????????

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

Holy fhuck......... You were working at the door???? Was that you that said
"Bow to the Power" to me????????

Yes it was. hahahahahahaha too funny!

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 04:55 PM

That was you!! WTF!! I was thinking, what the hell?? DOes that guy know me??

I had no idea that was you. How come you didnt say you were the bad ass Anthony from GFY......

I was bored as hell talking to all the goof ball drunks at Players Ball (hope no one is reading). Would have loved to shoot the shit with you.

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

That was you!! WTF!! I was thinking, what the hell?? DOes that guy know me??

I had no idea that was you. How come you didnt say you were the bad ass Anthony from GFY......

I was bored as hell talking to all the goof ball drunks at Players Ball (hope no one is reading). Would have loved to shoot the shit with you.

Nah, that little line was enough to fuck with you, plus it was freezing, and we had to get you inside.

There will be other shows, and other times, fo sho!

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 04:57 PM

Did you see the Asian Guy I was with?? He was a great fighter a few years back..

Damn, we are getting old.

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

Did you see the Asian Guy I was with?? He was a great fighter a few years back..

Damn, we are getting old.

No, bro, I missed him. But I"m sure I'll meet him the first chance I get to be admitted to family!

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 04:58 PM

I was thinkin the whole night, who was that guy at the door saying bow to the power..

Was he a webmaster? Or just some pervert fan that surfs my sites and recognized me?? It was on my mind for a while..

Haaa! Too funny.. That was you!

Funny how little things stay on your mind for a while.

I was thinking about that for quite a while. Thinkin what the hell?

boneprone · 01-26-2006, 04:59 PM

Yeha man, when we meet we have to make you family..

Need more AZN power.. I brought an Asian Entrouge this Internext with me.

The girls hit it off. Guys like AZN gals it seems nowdays.

Anthony · 01-26-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

I was thinkin the whole night, who was that guy at the door saying bow to the power..

Was he a webmaster? Or just some pervert fan that surfs my sites and recognized me?? It was on my mind for a while..

Haaa! Too funny.. That was you!

Funny how little things stay on your mind for a while.

I was thinking about that for quite a while. Thinkin what the hell?

Werd, I did the same thing to RocHard too, he was like, who the fuck was that?!

Raven · 01-27-2006, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I'm flying Dave and Kirik's link in my sig, as you know.

Can't wait for the new book, the first was bad ass!

They're working on it, fast and furiously. Mad respect for both of those warriors.

Gunni · 01-27-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by skinnywussy

Incorrect. Vale Tudo means no rules fighting. I believe that no rules fighting was around just a little bit longer than BJJ.

No rules fighting has been around since beginning of times.
Not as the sport we know today as Vale Tudo. The Gracies invited anyone to challenge them in a sport they calld "vale tudo" (everything goes).
They were mostly undefeated, except the time Masahiko Kimura (the greatest Judoka of all times) punished Helio Gracie for beating his mate, by wiping the floor with him for 15 minutes and then braking his elbow.

But I think the point Anthony was making i that a grappler will beat a striker 9 out of 10 times. If a grappler goes against some one that practises MMA, he is not going against a striker, he is going against someone that is both a grappler and a striker (i.e. someone that knows mixed martial arts, normally involving some striking ones and some grappling ones).
Therefor a striker that learns grappling is not a striker anymore.

An average boxer against an average grappler, grappler always wins (or 90% of the times), world class boxer against a world class grappler, well, that hasn't happened. But if it did I'd put my money on the grappler since boxers don't know how to defend themselfs from chokes and take downs.

That being said, a grappler against Lennox Lewis could easily get knocked out by a single blow while trying to get close...

ajapub · 01-28-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

The one who's friends kept wanting to stand it up.

Or better, the one getting the shit ground and pounded out him, also the one crying about not wanting to be choked out at the end.

BJJ RULES!

I love BJJ and I consider it to be one of the best forms of MA there is, but if you get a tough, long limbed striking expert that knows how to counter takedowns, WATCH OUT! If you look at some of the top guys competing in NHB today, you'll noticed that they're good at striking AND groundwork.

Of course, in a street fight, anything goes. If a 98 pound weakling sticks a thumb in your eye or bites you in the neck...

eroswebmaster · 01-28-2006, 02:32 PM

I guess I'll be the lone dissenter here.
While the kid looked like he knew a bit about grappling I got the impression that it was from watching too much spike tv.

Sure it helped him in the long run either way, but you could see where he couldn't seem to keep the "striker" down, he missed a key choke when he had him in the bushes and could have ended the fight there.

Yes I know this was a couple of kids on the street. But I'm also wondering to what extent the one kid actually knew BJJ.

01-26-2006, 03:01 PM	#107
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	That fight is so fucking lame.. All those people saying "break it up" and dissing becasue he was wrestling... Did they not realize the one guy was getting his ass handed to em? That other guy was no match for the wrestler... Totally outclassed.. The only thing that scared me was the other guy's boys.. I was cringing on the thought that one of them would run up and kick the grappler in the head.... But I agree the grapper wins 9 out of 10 times. That 10th time is when the the boys of the guy getting his ass kicked jump in. Always scarry in the street.. But in competition, no match..... __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

01-26-2006, 03:34 PM	#113
Raven Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,874	I know my good friends, Kirik Jenness and Dave Roy, two of the MMA originals.... would agree with you, Anthony....I believe Kirik still fights and they are working on another book....top secret, but soon to be released....Fit To Fight was a real best seller... __________________ Raven ~RETIRED~

01-26-2006, 04:36 PM	#115
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Anthony. Ive seen some pics of you. Youd be a good addition to the Boneprone Family.. The non-adult aspect.. We are a bunch of Asians that have fought in smaller competition Mixed Martial Arts competitons... Youd be a great addition.. Ive seen your posts over the years, and knew you had a background.. You still compete?? I personally dont. Havent in 5 years. Too damn fat, and in all seriousness wasnt that good. But I have fought. My cousins and friends however do. And we even were starting our own promotion for a bit.. But we all had kids, got married and things are in the back burner.. Wish I would have met you in Vegas. Would have been cool to shoot the shit with you. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

01-26-2006, 04:37 PM	#116
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Correction.. 6 years... __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

01-26-2006, 04:39 PM	#117
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Anthony.. Did you surf GFY back in the day when I used to post pics of the family in the cage matches?? Knocking people out and then doing the BP4L handsign?? Believe it or not, there was a pretty good gimmick we had going for a while. Some of my buds now train out here in portland with Quest... Imsure you have heard of them. Good competitons.. I posted pics and theads about it years and years ago here. Not sure if you were around GFY back then or not? For those that dont know Quest it the school Randy Couture runs. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 01-26-2006 at 04:41 PM..

01-26-2006, 03:21 PM	#112
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01-26-2006, 04:50 PM	#123
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Reading more into this im seeing its turning more into a gun thread. LOL.... Nice gun pics.... Sig P239 is what I have.... Not the best looking gun, but I have small hands, and it's one of the only things I feel comfortable shooting or I should say owning. That and the Glock 23 __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

01-26-2006, 04:53 PM	#125
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Holy fhuck......... You were working at the door???? Was that you that said "Bow to the Power" to me???????? __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

01-26-2006, 04:55 PM	#127
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	That was you!! WTF!! I was thinking, what the hell?? DOes that guy know me?? I had no idea that was you. How come you didnt say you were the bad ass Anthony from GFY...... I was bored as hell talking to all the goof ball drunks at Players Ball (hope no one is reading). Would have loved to shoot the shit with you. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

01-26-2006, 04:57 PM	#129
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Did you see the Asian Guy I was with?? He was a great fighter a few years back.. Damn, we are getting old. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

01-26-2006, 04:58 PM	#131
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	I was thinkin the whole night, who was that guy at the door saying bow to the power.. Was he a webmaster? Or just some pervert fan that surfs my sites and recognized me?? It was on my mind for a while.. Haaa! Too funny.. That was you! Funny how little things stay on your mind for a while. I was thinking about that for quite a while. Thinkin what the hell? __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

01-26-2006, 04:59 PM	#132
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Yeha man, when we meet we have to make you family.. Need more AZN power.. I brought an Asian Entrouge this Internext with me. The girls hit it off. Guys like AZN gals it seems nowdays. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

01-28-2006, 02:32 PM	#137
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	I guess I'll be the lone dissenter here. While the kid looked like he knew a bit about grappling I got the impression that it was from watching too much spike tv. Sure it helped him in the long run either way, but you could see where he couldn't seem to keep the "striker" down, he missed a key choke when he had him in the bushes and could have ended the fight there. Yes I know this was a couple of kids on the street. But I'm also wondering to what extent the one kid actually knew BJJ. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details