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Old 01-23-2006, 04:50 PM   #101
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Old 01-23-2006, 04:51 PM   #102
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Yeah.. like those are the only issues worth voting for....? You think people like you dont regret voting the Bush administration in? Want to get rapped again with more free trade agreements with the Americas only serving the US interests?? Remember Mulroney? Bush's senior best bud...?

Liberals can run an economy... Conservatives have run it to the ground a couple of times...
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:04 PM   #103
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Wait now I am officially confused.

Maybe you don't get where I am coming from. I have no sympathy for people. If you live in a society like today's world and you fall ill and are unable to pay for it then you go in debt. If you can't pay for it, you lose everything. That's how it works. I didn't make it up - the Western World did.
I love how it works. Personally if I had to leech on the rest of the country to pay my bills I'd feel pretty guilty.
Brad, it's pretty easy to say this when you're living with your parents.

It's fine to say 'get a job, pay your own way' but there's SO much more to it than that. What happens where there are no jobs? What happens when one can't afford an education? What happens when they can't pay their medical bills and go bankrupt? Know what happens? Crime goes up, the court system gets bogged down, the prisons are over populated. Guess who pays for that? Taxpayers.

Did your first year Polisci class teach you about that? Wouldn't it be so much easier to support a public healthcare system, education and job skills training to those who need it? Less pain and suffering along the way, fewer people getting hurt.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:08 PM   #104
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Brad, it's pretty easy to say this when you're living with your parents.

It's fine to say 'get a job, pay your own way' but there's SO much more to it than that. What happens where there are no jobs? What happens when one can't afford an education? What happens when they can't pay their medical bills and go bankrupt? Know what happens? Crime goes up, the court system gets bogged down, the prisons are over populated. Guess who pays for that? Taxpayers.

Did your first year Polisci class teach you about that? Wouldn't it be so much easier to support a public healthcare system, education and job skills training to those who need it? Less pain and suffering along the way, fewer people getting hurt.
I live with my parents? Listen you fat cu.nt, I am pretty tired of your assumptions. I'd love to slap that grin off your socialist face.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:08 PM   #105
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Wouldn't it be so much easier to support a public healthcare system, education and job skills training to those who need it? Less pain and suffering along the way, fewer people getting hurt.
Get people who are using the system's resources to start working and paying INTO the system's resources. Exactly.

So long as they're not "Professional" students, USING the system.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:12 PM   #106
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No, we'll end up paying less, because we'll stop being a bunch of bleeding hearts giving up our money to the "poor, poor crackheads".


Fxck that.

A war would cost more than any crackhead. Why don't we check back in 5 years? Liberals reduced taxes by 150billion since 1997, while paying down 70 billion in debt, saving us 3-4 billion / year in interest in the process. Let's see how much will the convervatives do without going back into deficit.

Harper is exactly like bush. We'll lose liberties, sink back into deficit. Canada is going to shit today
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:12 PM   #107
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Coming from a Seperatist I'm flattered.
No, I'm a sovereignist.

Pssst. -> It's spelled "Separatist" btw.

I'm a sovereignist because I think it's time to liberate the english canadians from 30 years of political oppression coming from the federal governement, using your taxes to pay their friends like Groupeaction and so on.. I don't want to seperate from Canada because of Quebec, but because we want to save you! Vive le Canada Libre!
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:13 PM   #108
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Canada's healthcare is far from "free"

Only uneducated morons say that Canada's healthcare is "FREE".

Nothing is free in this world.

Our healthcare is " UNIVERSAL", meaning that the same services are available to everybody, regardless of your income or wealth .


BTW, already on US News, it is said that Canada will cancel Kyoto, ban gay marriages and make pot illegal ....

I see thru my window a " HUGE " erection ..... it belongs to Dubya ....
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:13 PM   #109
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:15 PM   #111
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No, I'm a sovereignist.

Pssst. -> It's spelled "Separatist" btw.

I'm a sovereignist because I think it's time to liberate the english canadians from 30 years of political oppression coming from the federal governement, using your taxes to pay their friends like Groupeaction and so on.. I don't want to seperate from Canada because of Quebec, but because we want to save you! Vive le Canada Libre!
Blah... again I can't stay mad at you.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:16 PM   #112
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I'd love to slap that grin off your socialist face.
Time to take a break from the keyboard Brad.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:17 PM   #113
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Blah... again I can't stay mad at you.
I hope so, because I voted for conservative. Yes, even evil separatists like me.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:19 PM   #114
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:19 PM   #115
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I hope so, because I voted for conservative. Yes, even evil separatists like me.
I really can't. Even though I may not agree with you - you argue very good points. Gotta respect that.
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Time to take a break from the keyboard Brad.
Kassidy rides my dick and tries to piss me off by throwing in smug little comments I can tell she giggles at night about like "Living with your parents still, teehee?"
Yeah, haven't for years but thanks.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:27 PM   #117
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:28 PM   #118
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Yeah, haven't for years but thanks.

Well, by threatening violence you come off as somebody that would perhaps still be living at home. It doesn't exactly promote the notion of maturity. I know you are better than that so it does you no favours to threaten to hurt anyone much less a woman.

Take it on the chin and move on.
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jsut back from voting Liberal, didn;t even knwo the local canadiate, but doesn't matter its the only sane choice!


I think the guy I voted fo rwas on Jerry Springer show :

" I fucked my gay transexual otherspace cousin " ....

This election is about protest vote or " I don't want this party" to be elected ..,..

BTW, I voted BLOC , the only real logical choice .. tough I am in NDG, a sure bet for the liberals .... ( last election, they entered as candidate a overweight bisexual aborted cow, ands it won ! )....
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Yeah, haven't for years but thanks.
Typical HARPER profile voter....
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ummm, i live in winnipeg, manitoba............................ and you don't pay 47% - you need to make over $70K net to pay that - as dumb as you are I' betting you dont' make fuck all - maybe DADDY does - not you. - I pay the max rate though - and have for 10 years on a LOT of income.

typical consertative - no brain and thinking everyone else needs correction
hahahahaha
i do make more than the 70k minimum to be in that top tax tier (by a good margin i might add)

maybe you enjoy having half of everything you make go to the government to pay for social programs for the have-nots, i sure as fuck dont
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Vote for the " Reform Party " ...

I am trying to leave , with Quebec as my Homeland ....
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I owe MSP almost 3k, which I have to pay this month


If I was in the US, insurance for the last 2 years or so would've been cheaper....
its 108.00 a month in BC for a family of 3, most companies pay it for their employees.. if you are self employed, then you have to pay it...of course if you dont pay it for 2 or 3 years, i guess you could complain about the cumulative amount...
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I'd love to live in a part of Canada where thieves go to jail...

*edit: hypothetically speaking, I'm declaring non-residency
its not much different than the US. why would they throw people in jail for stealing? if they're repeat offenders or its over a certain $ amount then they go to jail.

some people aren;t very bright
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Old 01-23-2006, 07:06 PM   #126
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A war would cost more than any crackhead. Why don't we check back in 5 years? Liberals reduced taxes by 150billion since 1997, while paying down 70 billion in debt, saving us 3-4 billion / year in interest in the process. Let's see how much will the convervatives do without going back into deficit.

Harper is exactly like bush. We'll lose liberties, sink back into deficit. Canada is going to shit today
harper's platform has x amount of billions thats not accounted for. he'll either have to cut a bunch or go in the red to pull it off. the platform doesn't make sense so we really don't know what to expect.
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No, I'm a sovereignist.

Pssst. -> It's spelled "Separatist" btw.

I'm a sovereignist because I think it's time to liberate the english canadians from 30 years of political oppression coming from the federal governement, using your taxes to pay their friends like Groupeaction and so on.. I don't want to seperate from Canada because of Quebec, but because we want to save you! Vive le Canada Libre!
damn english ppl, good thing i live in toronto
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The only election glitch in Eastern Canada came at a polling station in New Glasgow, N.S., when a man took off with a ballot box.

Just after noon, the man ran into a polling station in the town's stadium and tried to grab two boxes. An election official snatched one, but the man made it out with the other one under his arm.

"The suspect actually went to the parking area, placed the box down on the ground and actually used his own personal vehicle [and] drove over the Elections Canada box," said Const. Ken MacDonald of New Glasgow police.

The man sped away. However, officers picked him a little while later.

Although the box was flattened, no ballots were destroyed. Scrutineers watched as the deputy returning officer transferred all of the ballots into a new box.

I wonder who he was pissed off at..
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Old 01-23-2006, 07:50 PM   #129
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The only election glitch in Eastern Canada came at a polling station in New Glasgow, N.S., when a man took off with a ballot box.
I was in New Glasgow this last summer... and am not surprised at all
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*whew* it is a minority government. I didn't care who won as long as it wasn't a majority.
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Yeah, haven't for years but thanks.
Actually, I don't 'ride' you in any way. When you make inflammatory, controversial comments, expect to be called on them. I disagree with you - suck it up like a big boy and move on.

You attempt to come off as a brash, cocky hard-ass to increase your page views and sig impressions but it only makes you look hysterical. Whining about it only makes it worse.
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I'm always surprised when I hear that self employed people want higher taxes, less benefits for business owners, and more social services for criminals and drug addicts.
a conservative government doesn't always mean lower taxes. Harper wanted to send us into George Bush's little pet project war that would have cost us billions. Money has to come from somewhere. Mulroney was our last conservative prime minister (not counting kim campbell) and he bestowed us with GST, basically raised our taxes 7% right then and there...
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its 108.00 a month in BC for a family of 3, most companies pay it for their employees.. if you are self employed, then you have to pay it...of course if you dont pay it for 2 or 3 years, i guess you could complain about the cumulative amount...

Hehe, yup


My ex g/f's friend works in Utah as an engineer and pays something silly like $20 a month in health insurance, 20-something male, full coverage.
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My ex g/f's friend works in Utah as an engineer and pays something silly like $20 a month in health insurance, 20-something male, full coverage.
well, the company must be funding a big % of it, bro.... i know when i worked in the USA decent coverage was 4-500.00 monthly or so for a family....that was 10 years ago too... there are a few threads here on medical insurance payments in the US, you can see why some people just cant afford it...also in eastern Canada they dont pay a monthly payment at all, they just jack up the sales tax a few points...;)
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a conservative government doesn't always mean lower taxes. Harper wanted to send us into George Bush's little pet project war that would have cost us billions. Money has to come from somewhere. Mulroney was our last conservative prime minister (not counting kim campbell) and he bestowed us with GST, basically raised our taxes 7% right then and there...
GST wasnt a new tax
it replaced a 14% manufacturers tax so canada wouldnt be at such a disadvantage for exports
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Michael Ignatieff is the future of this country... and he's liberal.... next election should be his.
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ummm, i live in winnipeg, manitoba............................ and you don't pay 47% - you need to make over $70K net to pay that - as dumb as you are I' betting you dont' make fuck all - maybe DADDY does - not you. - I pay the max rate though - and have for 10 years on a LOT of income.

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Myst certainly makes more than that.

On the political side, both conservatives and liberals are a bunch of self-serving elitist twats, at least here they are, and regardless of who gets voted in, in most Western countries, the end policies result in almost completely the same thing.

Personally I tend to favor populist parties (i.e. nationalist and such) as they tend to shake things up a little and atleast shake some sense into a totally disconnected Government. Of course in Australia, and I geuss Canada, these parties don't have much hope, but it is positive to see their influence and strength in Europe is growing, and even without direct power many of their policies are being adopted by the ruling parties out of fear.

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Old 01-24-2006, 04:42 AM   #142
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GST wasnt a new tax
it replaced a 14% manufacturers tax so canada wouldnt be at such a disadvantage for exports
why do i pay 7% on a haircut? or an office rental? or a ticket to a hockey game?
what does that have to do with import/export?
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hahahaha, look shitstain, the smarter you get, the more you'll agree with me.
There's never been a subject you've disagreed with me about where you've been right. the maturation process may change that for you.
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I live with my parents? Listen you fat cu.nt, I am pretty tired of your assumptions. I'd love to slap that grin off your socialist face.
brad, you're an idiot. just about the only country in the western world that doesn't have government funded health care is the US. all of western europe and canada does.
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Do you fucking know who Michael Ignatieff is??? Do you even know what he stands for?? He is THE true Neocon hack.. not Harper... He has been living in the States for a while now.. just came back for the election.. The guy is so pro war and pro US its not even funny...

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Old 01-24-2006, 09:16 AM   #146
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Do you fucking know who Michael Ignatieff is??? Do you even know what he stands for?? He is THE true Neocon hack.. not Harper... He has been living in the States for a while now.. just came back for the election.. The guy is so pro war and pro US its not even funny...

Anti-gay, anti abortion , anti social services and anti kyoto

Pro life, pro war, pro CEO ...

Harper sounds good actually
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Wait now I am officially confused.

Maybe you don't get where I am coming from. I have no sympathy for people. If you live in a society like today's world and you fall ill and are unable to pay for it then you go in debt. If you can't pay for it, you lose everything. That's how it works. I didn't make it up - the Western World did.
I love how it works. Personally if I had to leech on the rest of the country to pay my bills I'd feel pretty guilty.
Brad, you may not live with your parents, but you are still a kid. That is pretty obvious by your posts. I'd be really surprised if you are even 20 years old yet.

As a kid, your ignorance cannot be held against you because you simply do not know any better. You do not know what life is all about because you have not experienced life yet. Until you get some experience you will make ignorant statements like the one above because you think it is cool and makes you look like a hard ass or something. The reality is it makes you look like an idiot, but you are too young to know that yet.

The point is you are too young to know what it is like to have a family relying on you for support. You don't know what it is like to have kids and a mortgage hanging over your head. What happens if you have an accident and can't work anymore? What happens to your kids? Everybody just gets thrown out onto the street? This is exactly the point. You cannot possibly have any empathy for people in this situation because you are still a child. And you will not understand this post because you are still a child. It's not your fault. One day you will grow up. Hopefully nothing will happen in your life to make you eat your words.
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Manga: You made your point, I really doubt you could have tried to be any more belittling. Good job "big boy".
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