How Many Joins Is A Bonus Trip For 2 To Australia Worth ? - GoFuckYourself.com

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 04:57 PM

How many joins would you think is reasonable in a 6 months period for a bonus of airfare/accomodation/guided tour to Australia from anywhere in the world for 2 people ?

Visiting the Great Barrier Reef, Gold Coast, Sydney and Ayers Rock ?

Say 7-8 days.

Ice · 01-20-2006, 05:04 PM

I'm sure you could strike a deal with David from Anywebcam

John Marco · 01-20-2006, 05:07 PM

you mean in lieu of payout or in addition to payout?

czarina · 01-20-2006, 05:09 PM

You Do the math. If you the program owner make 3.99 profit per sales of X affiliate, then how many sales to cover that cost?

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by John Marco

you mean in lieu of payout or in addition to payout?

All exist payout deals remain exactly as they are (volume based higher revshare percentages).. this would be absolutely a 100% bonus.

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ice

I'm sure you could strike a deal with David from Anywebcam

I'm the one giving the deal ;-)

And seeing he is only a couple of hours and $100 away by plane, I doubt I would have to send many.

In fact he, Jess and Randall flew themselves up here just before Christmas and kindly took a bunch of us to dinner Anywebcam are a class act.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 01-20-2006, 05:47 PM

That would be a great promo, let me know if there is anything that i can do, maybe have some of the Batts World models come to a dinner or something like that.

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Batts

That would be a great promo, let me know if there is anything that i can do, maybe have some of the Batts World models come to a dinner or something like that.

Sure thing dude - I will be running this promo, just trying to balance maths vs realistic join numbers - hence this post .....

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 01-20-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyWhores

Sure thing dude - I will be running this promo, just trying to balance maths vs realistic join numbers - hence this post .....

No problem, just hit me up on icq, when you are ready.

Damian_Maxcash · 01-20-2006, 06:13 PM

What about a 1 way ticket and a flat in Cairns for 6 months

The Heron · 01-20-2006, 06:13 PM

You should be able to determine the amount of joins needed to breakeven at the least on the bonus, asking here is kind of pointless...

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Heron

You should be able to determine the amount of joins needed to breakeven at the least on the bonus, asking here is kind of pointless...

No it's not.

A bonus or a prize is only worth what people THINK it is worth to them - it's the basic rule of economics.

I know what I need maths wise, but I want to see what people think it is worth in their minds because it's pointless running a promo that people see no value in.

If people's ideas of a fair number matches my math, then we are good to go.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 01-20-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyWhores

No it's not.

A bonus or a prize is only worth what people THINK it is worth to them - it's the basic rule of economics.

I know what I need maths wise, but I want to see what people think it is worth in their minds because it's pointless running a promo that people see no value in.

If people's ideas of a fair number matches my math, then we are good to go.

Well Said.

adultchica · 01-20-2006, 06:23 PM

It's a great deal for a webmaster from another country! Especially ones who have never been to Australia.

2HousePlague · 01-20-2006, 06:23 PM

100 joins is a nice, round number --

Sosa · 01-20-2006, 06:31 PM

heh now that would be a nice bonus from a program. You would have to be sending a shitload of joins though.

BrettJ · 01-20-2006, 06:35 PM

man. that's such a sweet contest.

Are you thinking about limiting it to just the first 4 affiliates that manage to reach the magic join number?

Maybe do one as an all inclusive (Airfare/hotel/guide) and another one if the person sends maybe half or more of the joins for the all inclusive trip - cover part of the trip - like either air or hotel.

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

100 joins is a nice, round number --

Go for it - I'll fly you up from Wodonga for 100 joins !!

He he

Seriously, 2 airfares incoming international and internal, nice hotels (with internet of course !!) for a week + and a few tour things here and there (Harbor Bridge Climb in Sydney, Ayers Rock Climb, Diving on the reef etc etc) is some serious dollars......

Remembering that this would be 100% ADDITIONAL to your normal take for all sales, what would be fair and realistic number ?

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BrettJ

man. that's such a sweet contest.

Are you thinking about limiting it to just the first 4 affiliates that manage to reach the magic join number?

Maybe do one as an all inclusive (Airfare/hotel/guide) and another one if the person sends maybe half or more of the joins for the all inclusive trip - cover part of the trip - like either air or hotel.

Hey Brettski ;-)

Mate, I would see it as being whoever reached the magic number within the alloted time - do not see any reason for restrictions.

I would do it airfares/transport/accomodation for 2 people for a couple of reasons:

1. People have partners

2. Having people pay for the 2nd person actually penalizes them for winning because what they have to pay to bring a 2nd person is not cheap

3. It gives the opportunity for 2 people to "team up" to make the numbers.

That's the way I see it, and as the person who'd be the tour guide, that's the way I'd want it.

jess_awc · 01-20-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyWhores

I'm the one giving the deal ;-)

And seeing he is only a couple of hours and $100 away by plane, I doubt I would have to send many.

In fact he, Jess and Randall flew themselves up here just before Christmas and kindly took a bunch of us to dinner Anywebcam are a class act.

Why thank you kind sir

Looking forward to doing it again in late(ish) Feb ...

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jess_awc

Why thank you kind sir

Looking forward to doing it again in late(ish) Feb ...

No problem, it's just a statement of fact Jess ;-)

Make it not too late... http://www.costaricabash.com sees me on a plane to get there for the 23rd February ;-)

synapse · 01-20-2006, 07:20 PM

how about structuring it more like pussycash's current promo ... X number of available tickets / joins available which then gets that person a better % chance from a random draw ?

OzMan · 01-20-2006, 07:28 PM

I think it comes down to a personal preference of how generous you feel. That is, what percentage of your profit from that affiliate are you willing to give back to him/her or are you assuming that overall total program join increases will pay for the bonus probably..

To keep it simple let's ignore the best and worst case scenarios..the affilate could hit you hard for six months and drop you the next day or he could keep that volume up for years.

So round numbers...each join is worth an average of $100 to you and the trip costs $10,000 (I am assuming coach class fare as you didn't mention details)

100 joins break even
1000 joins = 10% bonus

so ummm..somewhere in between those two

Ok so I am sure my numbers are off and you really can't ignore the best and worst case as the whole point is to bump up total program joins for six months and hopefully much longer but... I tried

btw could you phone my Mum in Perth and tell her sorry I haven't called lately, I errr can't dial from the US..sorry couldn't resist throwing that in re that other thread

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by synapse

how about structuring it more like pussycash's current promo ... X number of available tickets / joins available which then gets that person a better % chance from a random draw ?

Hey Randall ;-)

Nah mate, I want this purely performance based - we have other competitions and promos and rewards for all affiliates, this is meant to be designed for the select few.

Not only then will they enjoy a sensational holiday, but bringing bigger players together (anticipating that several qualify) means some serious business can be achieved as well.

A LARGE added benefit, bydesign,. not accident.

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

I think it comes down to a personal preference of how generous you feel. That is, what percentage of your profit from that affiliate are you willing to give back to him/her or are you assuming that overall total program join increases will pay for the bonus probably..

To keep it simple let's ignore the best and worst case scenarios..the affilate could hit you hard for six months and drop you the next day or he could keep that volume up for years.

So round numbers...each join is worth an average of $100 to you and the trip costs $10,000 (I am assuming coach class fare as you didn't mention details)

100 joins break even
1000 joins = 10% bonus

so ummm..somewhere in between those two

Ok so I am sure my numbers are off and you really can't ignore the best and worst case as the whole point is to bump up total program joins for six months and hopefully much longer but... I tried

btw could you phone my Mum in Perth and tell her sorry I haven't called lately, I errr can't dial from the US..sorry couldn't resist throwing that in re that other thread

More like 1000 than 100, REMEMBER, we are still paying them full ride on normal terms for the joins, so your math on break even is totally incorrect by definition, but the $10k per cost mark is about right...

And we have look at exactly what you say and assume the affiliate MAY drop us (bad business to plan for the best case) - but if they did keep sending we would likewise reward the following period ... cash even maybe ...

I would see economy fares on airline of their choice which they can upgrade if they like - business class doubles the costs .....

BEAR IN MIND THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY WOULD EARN SENDING JOINS TO THE PROGRAM - THEY STILL RECEIVE ALL OF THAT !!!

Doing it this way also means there is no limit on how many can qualify...

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

btw could you phone my Mum in Perth and tell her sorry I haven't called lately, I errr can't dial from the US..sorry couldn't resist throwing that in re that other thread

I kept this separate on purpose...

Would you like to talk to your Mum ? She's cooking me eggs at the moment.

Ha ha ha aha ha ha aha ha ha ha

Couldn't resist !!!!

Sosa · 01-20-2006, 07:55 PM

Sure send me to Hawaii for a week please

OzMan · 01-20-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyWhores

I kept this separate on purpose...

Would you like to talk to your Mum ? She's cooking me eggs at the moment.

Ha ha ha aha ha ha aha ha ha ha

Couldn't resist !!!!

Bonus plan sounds good.

My Mum can't cook eggs but if you had said Daniela Hantuchova was cooking you breakfast while on a break from the tennis in Melbourne I mighta believed ya

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

Bonus plan sounds good.

My Mum can't cook eggs but if you had said Daniela Hantuchova was cooking you breakfast while on a break from the tennis in Melbourne I mighta believed ya

Ha ha ha ah ah aha ha ha ha ha

;-)

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sosa

Sure send me to Hawaii for a week please

We could do that ... how many you think that is worth ?

Tom_PM · 01-20-2006, 09:13 PM

Damn I don't know, like 2500 to 5000?
104 sales a week is about 2500 in 6 months..

MrIzzz · 01-20-2006, 09:19 PM

dude, just chilling with you in australia for a week is prize enough for me

awesome promo idea

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Damn I don't know, like 2500 to 5000?
104 sales a week is about 2500 in 6 months..

I think that would be about right... probably a bit less actually, 24 weeks at something like 70 per week, or 10 a day.

That way it really is not out of reach and the final group would be larger, which would be more fun !

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

dude, just chilling with you in australia for a week is prize enough for me

awesome promo idea

That would be sensational dude ...

Just you and me and a fleshlight or 2, what more could a man want ?

bringer · 01-20-2006, 09:59 PM

i can manage 7 sales per month
so 7

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

i can manage 7 sales per month
so 7

GREAT !!!!

I'll be bringing you and friend down to Australia in about 2847 !!!!

Woo-hoo !!

bringer · 01-20-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyWhores

GREAT !!!!

I'll be bringing you and friend down to Australia in about 2847 !!!!

Woo-hoo !!

how many sales to do it in 2007?

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

how many sales to do it in 2007?

Haven't finalized yet, but probably in the vicinity of 6 month period at something like 70 per week, or 10 a day ...

For 2 people... ALL transport and accomodation and some of the touristy things covered .... and a couple of party nights and dinners and shit of course ....

100% OVER AND ABOVE WHAT YOU EARN REVSHARE ON JOINS AND REBILLS FOREVER - INCLUDING IF YOU QUALIFY FOR HIGHER REVSHARE PERCENTAGES.

That sounding fair and reasonable ?

bringer · 01-20-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyWhores

Haven't finalized yet, but probably in the vicinity of 6 month period at something like 70 per week, or 10 a day ...

For 2 people... ALL transport and accomodation and some of the touristy things covered .... and a couple of party nights and dinners and shit of course ....

100% OVER AND ABOVE WHAT YOU EARN REVSHARE ON JOINS AND REBILLS FOREVER - INCLUDING IF YOU QUALIFY FOR HIGHER REVSHARE PERCENTAGES.

That sounding fair and reasonable ?

so about 1900 every six months? sounds fair for all those extras. where do i start?

FlogTheLog · 01-20-2006, 10:16 PM

Great promo mate

your a thinker

CuriousToyBoy · 01-20-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

so about 1900 every six months? sounds fair for all those extras. where do i start?

Let me nut out final details mate - email me at toyboy @ curiouscash.com and I'll hit you up with the final plan !!

shack · 01-20-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

btw could you phone my Mum in Perth and tell her sorry I haven't called lately, I errr can't dial from the US..sorry couldn't resist throwing that in re that other thread

Phone ? I'll jump in the car and drop her flowers

CuriousToyBoy · 01-21-2006, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by shack

Phone ? I'll jump in the car and drop her flowers

Mr. Romance · 01-21-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyWhores

How many joins would you think is reasonable in a 6 months period for a bonus of airfare/accomodation/guided tour to Australia from anywhere in the world for 2 people ?

Visiting the Great Barrier Reef, Gold Coast, Sydney and Ayers Rock ?

Say 7-8 days.

I would love to come to your country. Let me know what i need to do to get on that plane!

Mr. Romance

OzMan · 01-21-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shack

Phone ? I'll jump in the car and drop her flowers

wow another Perth webmaster!!! a couple more and they will have to put on a seminar there one day

CuriousToyBoy · 01-21-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Romance

I would love to come to your country. Let me know what i need to do to get on that plane!

Mr. Romance

You bet Gerard .... you are welcome at my place anytime anyway, but let's get you on the trip...

Watch this space in a few days when I release full details.

WiredGuy · 01-21-2006, 03:53 PM

Sounds like fun, but like someone mentioned already, price it out... figure the cost of the trip and divide by the amount you make per join and the number of joins needed.
WG

CuriousToyBoy · 01-21-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Sounds like fun, but like someone mentioned already, price it out... figure the cost of the trip and divide by the amount you make per join and the number of joins needed.
WG

And like I've said, have done that, but won't run a promo if the numbers are not considered fair and conditions are not extraneous.

Hence this post.. almost clear in my mind now, so expect something in concrete soon ;-)

boner 2.0 · 01-21-2006, 05:18 PM

fiddy

xxxjay · 01-21-2006, 05:41 PM

That could be interesting.

01-20-2006, 04:57 PM	#1
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01-20-2006, 05:07 PM	#3
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01-20-2006, 06:23 PM	#14
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01-20-2006, 06:23 PM	#15
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01-20-2006, 05:09 PM	#4
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	You Do the math. If you the program owner make 3.99 profit per sales of X affiliate, then how many sales to cover that cost?

01-20-2006, 05:47 PM	#7
Mr.Right - Banned For Life I guarantee it Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18,314	That would be a great promo, let me know if there is anything that i can do, maybe have some of the Batts World models come to a dinner or something like that.

01-20-2006, 06:13 PM	#10
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	What about a 1 way ticket and a flat in Cairns for 6 months

01-20-2006, 06:13 PM	#11
The Heron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,488	You should be able to determine the amount of joins needed to breakeven at the least on the bonus, asking here is kind of pointless...

01-20-2006, 06:31 PM	#16
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	heh now that would be a nice bonus from a program. You would have to be sending a shitload of joins though.

01-20-2006, 06:35 PM	#17
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	man. that's such a sweet contest. Are you thinking about limiting it to just the first 4 affiliates that manage to reach the magic join number? Maybe do one as an all inclusive (Airfare/hotel/guide) and another one if the person sends maybe half or more of the joins for the all inclusive trip - cover part of the trip - like either air or hotel.

01-20-2006, 07:20 PM	#22
synapse NameNetwork.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,175	how about structuring it more like pussycash's current promo ... X number of available tickets / joins available which then gets that person a better % chance from a random draw ?

01-20-2006, 07:28 PM	#23
OzMan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Begas Posts: 9,162	I think it comes down to a personal preference of how generous you feel. That is, what percentage of your profit from that affiliate are you willing to give back to him/her or are you assuming that overall total program join increases will pay for the bonus probably.. To keep it simple let's ignore the best and worst case scenarios..the affilate could hit you hard for six months and drop you the next day or he could keep that volume up for years. So round numbers...each join is worth an average of $100 to you and the trip costs $10,000 (I am assuming coach class fare as you didn't mention details) 100 joins break even 1000 joins = 10% bonus so ummm..somewhere in between those two Ok so I am sure my numbers are off and you really can't ignore the best and worst case as the whole point is to bump up total program joins for six months and hopefully much longer but... I tried btw could you phone my Mum in Perth and tell her sorry I haven't called lately, I errr can't dial from the US..sorry couldn't resist throwing that in re that other thread Last edited by OzMan; 01-20-2006 at 07:29 PM..

01-20-2006, 07:55 PM	#27
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	Sure send me to Hawaii for a week please

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Damn I don't know, like 2500 to 5000? 104 sales a week is about 2500 in 6 months.. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

01-20-2006, 09:19 PM	#32
MrIzzz If u touch it, I will cum Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: long island Posts: 22,923	dude, just chilling with you in australia for a week is prize enough for me awesome promo idea __________________ WHO WANTS TO PLAY GRAB-ASS?

01-20-2006, 09:59 PM	#35
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01-20-2006, 10:16 PM	#40
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01-21-2006, 03:53 PM	#47
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01-21-2006, 05:18 PM	#49
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01-21-2006, 05:41 PM	#50
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	That could be interesting. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/