seeric

i'm developing a music studio again and times have changed a lot since 2000. what setup are you running.

i'm hip on what i want for keys sound modules and processing units, what are you using for computer power?

whats your hardware configs? i'd really like to go all mac this time around.

Brad Gosse

GO all Mac, my friend just took a job heading Apple's pro audio division UK. He is one of the best in the biz.

Stienberg has some nice tools for mac users.

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You need Nuendo as your soft!

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seeric

yeah, i'm pretty positive mac is the way to go. all around way more solid for music production and editing purposes. less latency too from what i've experienced in other studios. pro tools and digital performer have come along way for mac too.

i have seen nuendo as well on the software tip.

jonesy

ALL MAC - and get pro tools.

wazzzuuup bradah?

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seeric

yep, already got a protools license with a legal dongle this time.

CyberAgeGary

Hey Airek, What's Up?

I got a friend of mine that has a lot of brand new studio equipment for sale, everything you can think of, let me know if your interested,

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pro tools rocks, who need drumer ?

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seeric

oh yeah?

send me a pricing list and specs on the gear. i'm interested.

i'll icq you too.

i got first right of refusal.

Jace

Athlon 64 3200+ with 3gb ram

and a

M-Audio Delta 1010 Interface with rack mount patch bay

both together have not done me wrong yet....to be honest, I have worked on mac and pc and don't notice enough difference to warrant the INSANE prices mac wants for their machines

Mpegmaster

COmmon ppl help Airek out!

His music rocks!

his first comeback song is gonna go something like this " Sucking on my titties.....la allllaaa lalaaaaa..... Ain't nothin going in my ass "

Fresh

I use a 17" powerbook with an M-audio Firewire 410 interface. As far as a midi keyboard, I bought the M-audio keystation pro 88, its the best trigger board ive ever used. Keystation Pro 88

I've been workin on Cubase forever now and it hasnt fucked up on me yet. It supports VST plug-ins very well.

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jonesy

could you explain why every major recording studio or film/video production house uses MAC exclusively instead of PC?

for home shit and some production music wise PC is cool but when your doing major shit MAC is the way to go for all media.

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jonesy

eric what are you looking to get?

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seeric

you freakin kill me yo.

seeric

well, i'd love to have an older board, like a ghost soundcraft with tubes and shit. i don't care for the digital boards. software is basically an integration issue. korg triton pro x 88 key is the synth. mpc2000, and several Roland DMs, and a slew of vocal processors, 3d holophonics, effects modules and a decent hard disk recorder.

jonesy

ah now were talking - you can find that stuff pretty easy - i have a yamaha motif 6, real sweet and somtimes run a midi from my guitar to it to trigger riffs melodies ect. which is cool when i cant play something on the piano HAHA

acid and sound forge are also a great tools too.

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toddler

Much like some places use solaris vs linux. solaris machines tend to be a bit slower, but the hardware is also much more solid. But, more importantly, with a mac, you only have to write software to one 'real' machine type. with pc hardware...wll, anything goes.


3 G of ram huh? I'm not calling you a liar, but usually you don't see too many machines that will do '3' G. 4, sure. 2 sure. 3? Not so much. Not impossible, just rare...sure thats not a typo?

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stickyfingerz

Absolutley. Its all Ive used since it came out 4 or 5 years ago. Running 3.somethin right now. Its pricey though 1200.00 smackers.

stickyfingerz

Sorry thats just not true anymore. I live in Nashville, and am involved in the industry, and not every studio uses mac. In fact most are going back to PC now. It was just a fad to use Mac for awhile there.

seeric

yeah i use acid exclusively for remixing stuff. its great for sampling and cutting perfect loops.

sound forge i use mostly for tracking cds and throwing markers and stuff.

jonesy

fad?

ok.

that statement alone tells me all i need to know about how "involved" you are in the industry

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gregalicious

Go all Mac. You'll thank yourself trust me (I'm using a Windows desktop right now).

Me, Cubase SL 3, Delta 44, Mackie 1402 VLZ, bunch of awesome mics

If you're going to be doing MIDI, get Logic, if you're recording, ProTools, but Cubase is a good bet too

gregalicious

I wanted to edit my last post but the period in which I could do it had elapsed.

No joke, in all seriousness, my friend and I recorded this impromptu with his - get this - MP3 player's built-in microphone: http://www.exquisiteaudio.com/jam/zdcircus.MP3

nico-t

the amateur setup - Modplug tracker & cool edit pro!

iguess

A1R3K--
On the MPC 2000 they still run version 1.72?
Im bout to get a 4000.
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What you produce?

iguess

korg triton 61-key

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i always judge by the looks of the receptionist and the quality of the catering --- lol

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Jace

my mobo can handle up to 4gb, but I only had the money at the time for 3 1gb sticks...getting the extra stick here soon...but I have 4 slots, and I using 3 of them right now

Jace

actually, I have a buddy that just got done mixing down Ushers grammy nominated cd, and also just currently got done working with janet Jackson and Jimmy Jam.....and he even says that pc's are getting pretty prevalent

Jace

i absolutely love acid for making remixes, the simplicity of it fucking rocks for the multitrack layering for remixes and mix cd's

Jace

oh, and let me also point out this...I personally think that Mac just became a standard when a standard was needed...this was a while ago...now that both have caught up with each other, I think it is all a matter of personal preference and what you are comfortable with. With the amount of kickass hardware and software that is available for both now, you can achieve the same quality on either and most will be happy with it

and major studios are using mac because that is their preference because they are comfortable with it and have used it for years, it doesn't mean one is better than the other, it is just like an old tradition

and it doesn't need to die or anything, I have no problem with either...and there is really no use in rehashing the age old debate about mac vs. pc, because as time and product has shown, both are each good in their own right and can achieve the same product if used properly with the correct tools and hardware

TreasureBucks

Ive got a layla 24 bit rackmount breakout w/box 8 ins and 8 outs...running through a 1604 mackie board, 2g P4 XP laptop running Sonar, Sound Forge, Acid, and Fruity Loops.

If you got the cash, you can spend a small fortune on Pro Tools and Mac, but in the end, if you know how to do a proper mixdown, you can still get quality tracks without spending all that money.

Ive got a friend who bought all top of the line pro tools equip. but he also used shitty vocal mics and drum mics, and he did not know how to do a proper mixdown, and his tracks sounded like shit.

Ive listened to tracks that come from some the cheapest crap, for example.....I have another friend, who sent me a track he recorded on a boss 4 channel all in one digital recorder, and it sounded great.

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DanZ

if you want your computer more stable get yourself a Mac
MAC OS X Tiger is way more solid than Windows XP
it is base on Unix and it speaks for itself
+ it feels nicer to be in it, less generic than PC

if price is the deciding factor
get a PC it could save you up to a $1000-1500


no matter which platform you chose, get a lot of ram and I meen it A Lot! it makes a huge difference


at this point of music technology
with an exception of a couple of machines new hardware synth market is dead
*wiping of a tear

looking for a serious drum module
Stylus RXM will change the way you see beats forever

and other spectrasonic products are also pretty cool
www.spectrasonics.net

Native instruments got practically every sound production aspect covered

I would highly reccomend NI essentials budle

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/inde...6&backPID=1236

get yourself a behringer knob controller and you are alset
http://www.behringer.com/BCR2000/index.cfm?lang=ENG


the hardware synths exseptions that I've mentioned above are

Moog Voyager - the bass will blow your and your neeghtbor's brains out
moog was the first synth and it still rocks $3000

Virus TI - A Sound Journey $1500-2500
you might look into Dave Smith's synth but it still can not be compared to the Virus TI
Abynth of NI comes close but still can not touch what and how Virus TI can bend and dirrect the sound Sculpture (only works in Logic) is probably a match

that is about it
unless you are into retro gear collection (because it deffinatelly makes you feel better to tweek those knobs, for sure) there is no need intthe past

you can even get the entire Vienna Symphonic to play on your next record for a couple of grands if you will get their sample library

I got a G5 quad processor
fullyweighted yamaha controller
02 controller
Spectrasonics Stylus RMX
Spectrasonics Atmosphere
Ableton Live 5
Izotope effects
Reason
and one day will get Moog VOyager and Virus TI
Ymaha NS 10ms monitors sounds like shit but can not get a cleareer mix from anything else - standart of the industry

I se protools 7.0 but if you decide to go with mac I would recommend to stay in Logic, it will save you money and the vitual synths and drum module there are already phenomenal + U get a shit load of apple loops -great tool
so if you spend a 2.500 on a mac and a 1000 on logic 200 on interface you got a system that is awesome

if you want your tracks to sound phenomenal spend another 1500 for an apogee timeclock

500-1500 for a monitors
recommendation
Yamaha NS 10m of the ebay
Mackie HR624 or HR824
and if you can affort Truth audio TA 1 P
so for 6000-7000 you will get a fucking awesome studio


you can aslo say fuck it get a dell and ableton live and it use your computer monitors it will cost you a 1000

Good Luck and trust me
stay out for the most parts try to stay out of hardware

jonesy

agreed and as well as your other replies to me -

most here arent from a music background so when i read your post i assumed you werent, sorry bout that - and stickyfingerzdotnet post got me going with the fad remark

but what you posted above couldnt be said better and are my sentiments and i hope sticky reads it.

i have stuff out commercially in mainstream done solely in acid, remixing to comercials ect - fucking cracks me up when i hear shit i did or paticipated in knowing that it came from a $200 program .

ACID ROCKS

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I recording every time with metronome, I have this set

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Pornwolf

I am not a fan of Macs but it helps to have a Mac based setup for standardization. A lot of times I will have new engineers mix or track sessions for me. It cuts down a lot of hassle when they are already 100% familiar with the setup.

Anyway, I have 2 rooms. One has a Digidesign Control 24, SSL XLogic channel strip. Neve G series compressor channel strip, Mac G5 with a 23" monitor.

The second room is really just a pre production room. In that one I have a Imac G5 running with a Korg D32 XD as the board & a simple recorder for songwriters that come in but don't know how to work Pro Tools or Logic. The D32 kicks major ass by itself. I'd suggest it to anyone.


All speakers are Tannoy's except the near field monitors on the Control 24 which are Yamaha NS10's.

The basics are shared between the rooms: 2 Tritons one is an Extreme, Korg Karma, MPC 2500 & 4000, Emu E4 and my favorite... SP1200.

The software is standard in both rooms. Pro Tools HD in the large room, LE in the small one. Logic, Reason & Plug ins galore.

All this stuff is cool but a hit can be made on anything now a days. A laptop with a cracked audio program and a midi keyboard is all you need now a days. Brands don't even matter.

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Purely because mac have locked in the creative markets. When you go to film/audio/graphic school you learn on mac fostering platform dependency.. you work in the field you have to work on mac because thats what the guys setting up the office learnt on.. you lecture kids at college you have to lecture on macs. Trust me.. if every mac was taken out of every classroom for the next 15 years and replaced with lecturers using PC's macs would be a thing of the past, they are not inherently better, they have just done a VERY good job in the educational market which retains their first mover advantage in the creative industry back in the 80s.

I've used and lectured on macs, but i've set up whole graphic studios using PC's... film.. 3d the works. I wouldn't waste my money trying to do the same thing with macs.

Although I will freely admit audio is a little out of my area. I run an Athlon 64 Mbox Protools system lol.. not exactly top of the line

Jace

haha, it's all cool man...I sit in my studio 10 hours a day man, I live and breathe music...I do a LOT of remixing and mixing

and yes, Acid is by far one of my most used tools right now. I am doing a lot of 2 Many DJ's style stuff, you heard it?

Jace

and don't forget, Mac GIVES machines to almost every financial institution for free to keep their use to a maxmimum..they have some excellent grant programs. My high school got 25 macs when I was 17, this was years ago when they first started their grant program, from what I hear now Mac is giving them away like candy

Jace

hehe, I want that, but I have NO room for it

EroticySteve

This is a pretty hot rig for the serious producer/DJ.

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If you decide to go mac you might just hold of a month and buy one of the new intel based macbook pro's. They plan on releasing Logic Pro for intel very soon at a charge of 50$ if you already have the g4 version.

seeric

yeah, i've got one of those already. and one of these too.

sickbeatz

My ideal of a studio, for the music that I produce is simple.

Give me a sampler and a moog and I'll give you a hit.


Right now I'm currently using Cubase SX3 and a moog synth. I use the Waves Diamond Bundle for most of my mastering.

Some hardware that I've previously owned and enjoy using include the MPC2000XL (even though it's slow as fuck, I love producing tracks on this beast). I also like the ASR-10 -- even though sampling time is shit -- this is a classic sampling tool. My second favorite keyboard synth would have to be the Korg Triton -- which I've produced hella hot tracks on.

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And for recording artists. We only use the Sony C800-G -- this will make anybody sound good.

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stickyfingerz

Thats exactly what it was. It was the "must use" of the time. You still hear people such as yourself parrot it over and over. Listen to this. "There is nothing a mac can do that a pc cant do" However there is plenty a pc can do that a mac cant. If you disagree with that statement then you are foolhardy. lol

Tom_PM

I might have a copy of cakewalk pro on a 5 1/4 floppy laying around somewhere if you need it, hehe. It not only can display in 80x25 text mode, but you can squeeze it into 50 line mode if you know how.

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stickyfingerz

Cakewalk is cheap, but I had a guy from Texas that sent me a cd, and I had him sign a contract while I pitched his stuff. Stuff was radio ready, and he was using a logitech desk mic, and cakewalk. If anyone wants to hear one of his songs Ill post it.