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12-11-2004, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by lazycash
Ugh, this is liking talking to a child, my question had nothing to do with the birth of Christ. Again for the fifth time, what specific writings did you base your belief on who you think Jesus was. Yes you claim Jesus was a Ghandi like person and you've eluded to him using his specific words against the Romans and cited other specific acts, so you what source made you come to the conclusion you have about who Jesus was?

yes it dit , you claimed many times in this thread jesus was conceived through the hand of god !! many fuckin times! how am I supposed to know what you want clairyfied if you are not specific

do some reading on who Jesus was and not the Christian mumbo jumbo

why was he killed ?

why did the romans want him dead ?
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#102

12-11-2004, 02:17 PM

Lazycash , you are on dumb fuck

you are in the porn biz yet you believe people CAN be made throught the hand of god , that is Ignorance at his finest
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#103

12-11-2004, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Fake Nick
I will repeat it one more time

I base my believes and lots of the views expressed here in this thread on the views of christians harvard professors

they dont hate God , they dont hate Christians and they also aren't anti's

they are Christians themselves , they have studied this many many years and their conclusion was that Jesus was conceived through sexual intecourse

many times in this thread I have said this yet you have the ignorance to claim I dont want to post what I base my views on...

I think we should have started back at square one when this thread started and asked you what you think the "Christian belief" means. I can assure you that you and I must have completely different views on what it means to believe in when one says they are a Christian. So if you base your beliefs on some controversial Harvard professors and you say they are Christians, am I then to deduce that that you consider yourself to be a Christian?

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#104

12-11-2004, 02:24 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fake Nick
[B]yes it dit , you claimed many times in this thread jesus was conceived through the hand of god !!

through the hand? I reiterate; There is a footnote in the Greek bible from which the St. Jame's version was taken that claims Jesus to have been concieved from the anus of Mary. It has been argued that by scholars that God did not wish to damage Mary's hymen.

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12-11-2004, 02:25 PM

thats right... jesus was an ass cookie!

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#106

12-11-2004, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by lazycash
I think we should have started back at square one when this thread started and asked you what you think the "Christian belief" means. I can assure you that you and I must have completely different views on what it means to believe in when one says they are a Christian. So if you base your beliefs on some controversial Harvard professors and you say they are Christians, am I then to deduce that that you consider yourself to be a Christian?

hell no I am not

pls wath the documentary , then we can argue

it is a very interesting documentary , it let all sorts of people speak even ignorant fucks like yourself

watch it then come back .............
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#107

12-11-2004, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Fake Nick
yes it dit , you claimed many times in this thread jesus was conceived through the hand of god !! many fuckin times! how am I supposed to know what you want clairyfied if you are not specific

do some reading on who Jesus was and not the Christian mumbo jumbo

why was he killed ?

why did the romans want him dead ?

Oh geez, this is amazing, my latest question to you had nothing to do with Christ's birth, I specifically asked what writings you based your current views of Jesus on, thats it. You give general non related answers, go off on tangents, namecall and generally avoid constructive debate. I can assure you have done far more reading on who Jesus was and his life than you have. All you've done is demean and discount what Christians believe, but the more you write the more its clear you really don't know what they believe. Since you want me to read who Jesus was, maybe you can direct me to some sources that will help me understand, go ahead and list them.

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#108

12-11-2004, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Fake Nick
Lazycash , you are on dumb fuck

you are in the porn biz yet you believe people CAN be made throught the hand of god , that is Ignorance at his finest

I can see this is going nowhere and I should have seen that long ago. I thought you might be capable of intelligent debate, but obviously not. So now you call me a dumb fuck because I don't believe as you do, hit me up on icq if you have any questions 15819167, this is pointless.

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#109

12-11-2004, 02:36 PM

not on the bible
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12-11-2004, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Fake Nick
not on the bible

Ok, thats a start, I presumed that, come on I know you can spit it out, what then if not the Bible?

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12-11-2004, 02:38 PM

all your claims are based on a book , the bible , that was rewritten many times by the people in power of that time to get a tighter grip on the power

there is no thrutvalue whatsoever to the bible

I have told you many times what my views are based on but you chose to reade past that and keep on aksing the same question
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12-11-2004, 02:40 PM

But the Bible isn't the only source. In 1945, at Nag Hammadi in southern Egypt, two men came across a sealed ceramic jar. Inside, they discovered a hoard of ancient papyrus books. Although they never received as much public attention as the Dead Sea Scrolls, these actually turn out to be much more important for writing the history of early Christianity. They are a cache of Christian texts. The Nag Hammadi texts tell us about early Christians. They were written in Coptic, the language of early Christian Egypt. As most ancient Christian texts have been lost, this discovery was exceptional. The discovery includes the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip and the Acts of Peter. None of these texts were included in the Bible, because the content didn't conform to Christian doctrine, and they're referred to as apocryphal. They tend to concentrate on things that one doesn't read about in the Bible. For example, New Testament gospels says after the resurrection Jesus spent some time talking with the disciples, but you don't learn much about what he said. In the gospels of Nag Hammadi you can read what he said.

I already posted this on page one !! ! !! ! ! yet you claim I never told you what I base my vies on? ? ??

watch documentary lazycash then come back !!!

it is a VERY interesting piece of work !
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#113

12-11-2004, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Fake Nick
hell no I am not

pls wath the documentary , then we can argue

it is a very interesting documentary , it let all sorts of people speak even ignorant fucks like yourself

watch it then come back .............

I have it in my library and have watched it many times, what specific part did you want to discuss? So now I'm an ignorant fuck, does it bother you that bad that people don't believe as you do that you have to resort to childish namecalling?

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#114

12-11-2004, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by lazycash
I have it in my library and have watched it many times, what specific part did you want to discuss? So now I'm an ignorant fuck, does it bother you that bad that people don't believe as you do that you have to resort to childish namecalling?

dont start making thing up , you never watched it
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12-11-2004, 02:44 PM

quite funny that we have been discussing this many pages posts hours , and only now you come forward and claim you have already seen it

if this wa true you would have said so many posts ago ................
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#116

12-11-2004, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by Fake Nick
I already posted this on page one !! ! !! ! ! yet you claim I never told you what I base my vies on? ? ??

watch documentary lazycash then come back !!!

it is a VERY interesting piece of work !

Nowhere in this entire thread have you specifically stated what writings you derived your beliefs on regarding who you think Jesus was. I've asked the same question nine times and it now appears that you must not have any answers or are incapable of comprehending the question at hand. For the tenth time, i'm not referring to your views on the birth, i'm not referring to what you think of the documentary, i'm not referring to darwin, but what source did you use to come upon your conclusion that Jesus wasn't who he said he was?

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#117

12-11-2004, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by lazycash
Nowhere in this entire thread have you specifically stated what writings you derived your beliefs on regarding who you think Jesus was. I've asked the same question nine times and it now appears that you must not have any answers or are incapable of comprehending the question at hand. For the tenth time, i'm not referring to your views on the birth, i'm not referring to what you think of the documentary, i'm not referring to darwin, but what source did you use to come upon your conclusion that Jesus wasn't who he said he was?

huh ? I never claimed Jesus isn't who he said he is

you claimed he is something he never claimed he was , all you have for prove is an untruthfull book

you keep on changing your goddamn question
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12-11-2004, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Fake Nick
quite funny that we have been discussing this many pages posts hours , and only now you come forward and claim you have already seen it

if this wa true you would have said so many posts ago ................

Go back and read. I also have documentaries from noted scholars backing up the belief that Jesus was immaculately conceived, would you like me to mail you those? The more I listen to you it appears you watched a 50 min documentary and now base your entire belief system on it.

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12-11-2004, 02:56 PM

But the Bible isn't the only source. In 1945, at Nag Hammadi in southern Egypt, two men came across a sealed ceramic jar. Inside, they discovered a hoard of ancient papyrus books. Although they never received as much public attention as the Dead Sea Scrolls, these actually turn out to be much more important for writing the history of early Christianity. They are a cache of Christian texts. The Nag Hammadi texts tell us about early Christians. They were written in Coptic, the language of early Christian Egypt. As most ancient Christian texts have been lost, this discovery was exceptional. The discovery includes the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip and the Acts of Peter. None of these texts were included in the Bible, because the content didn't conform to Christian doctrine, and they're referred to as apocryphal. They tend to concentrate on things that one doesn't read about in the Bible. For example, New Testament gospels says after the resurrection Jesus spent some time talking with the disciples, but you don't learn much about what he said. In the gospels of Nag Hammadi you can read what he said.

like I said on PAGE FUCKIN ONE

these manuscripts also speak about the life of Jesus I base my views partially on those

I have been saying this since page one !! !!!!! ! yet you have the ignorance to claim I dont reveal my source while I have been revealing them since page one !! !

my views on who Jesus is are backed up by these manuscripts !! ! ! ! ! ! !! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !! ! !

I have said this since PAGE ONE !!! !! you are THICK
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12-11-2004, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by lazycash
Go back and read. I also have documentaries from noted scholars backing up the belief that Jesus was immaculately conceived, would you like me to mail you those? The more I listen to you it appears you watched a 50 min documentary and now base your entire belief system on it.

it was not a 50 min docu , more like a 4 hour one
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#121

12-11-2004, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Fake Nick
huh ? I never claimed Jesus isn't who he said he is

you claimed he is something he never claimed he was , all you have for prove is an untruthfull book

you keep on changing your goddamn question

Lol, so what writings do you have to back up your claims that Jesus claimed he was something otherwise? You claim my source is untruthful and erroneous, yet you can't even provide a source for your beliefs of what you claim Jesus was. If you're so concerned with the Bible being changed, learn how to translate from the Greek and Hebrew and go back and read the earliest manuscripts before they were translated.

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#122

12-11-2004, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by lazycash
Lol, so what writings do you have to back up your claims that Jesus claimed he was something otherwise? You claim my source is untruthful and erroneous, yet you can't even provide a source for your beliefs of what you claim Jesus was. If you're so concerned with the Bible being changed, learn how to translate from the Greek and Hebrew and go back and read the earliest manuscripts before they were translated.

PAGE FUCKIN ONE BITCH !!!!!! and alread THREE TIMES ON THIS FUCKIN page !! ! !

jeez pls read then fuckin reply
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12-11-2004, 02:58 PM

I can conclude that you are a christian with no scholing who wants to defend his child of god by any means
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#124

12-11-2004, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Fake Nick
PAGE FUCKIN ONE BITCH !!!!!! and alread THREE TIMES ON THIS FUCKIN page !! ! !

jeez pls read then fuckin reply

Afraid not, nowhere in any of this thread have you eluded to specific writings that you used to formulate your beliefs on who you think Jesus was. I feel like I'm talking to a five year old who can't understand the most basic of questions.

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12-11-2004, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Fake Nick
with no scholing

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