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Old 01-07-2006, 09:48 AM   #1
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Damn I can't copy dollar bills on my copier.

I paid all that money for this xerox copier and it wont let me copy dollar bills. I keep getting this weird messages...
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Old 01-07-2006, 09:51 AM   #2
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I paid all that money for this xerox copier and it wont let me copy dollar bills. I keep getting this weird messages...
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Old 01-07-2006, 09:51 AM   #3
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yep, built into the software, same with some scanners
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I paid all that money for this xerox copier and it wont let me copy dollar bills. I keep getting this weird messages...
Donīt you get it? You will need monster-machine this to copy dollar bills...



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Lol seriously? I never tried it. Didn't think they actually built in software to prevent it
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yep, built into the software, same with some scanners
That sux. with all the features on dollar bills there is no way you can mistaken a photocopied bill with the real thing, so there's no point of adding the software...all I want is make copies of dollars on regular papers.
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Old 01-07-2006, 10:00 AM   #8
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I paid all that money for this xerox copier and it wont let me copy dollar bills. I keep getting this weird messages...
There's no money in copiers.

You need a printing press, ink, paper and a good plate.
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Nice Epson printer. I I had the same one, once.
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Nice Epson printer. I I had the same one, once.
ONCE?? U mean thatīs not the latest technology??
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You can borrow my copies, just make sure you change the serial number


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Not too good of an idea to post that. That is actually illegal.
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Old 01-07-2006, 12:10 PM   #13
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I read once of a counterfeiter who drew bills by hand...
Brush up on your art skills, they are impervious to software
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the newer copiers have software that prints a tiny code on everything you print. I think you know why.
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the newer copiers have software that prints a tiny code on everything you print. I think you know why.
Yup you ever wonder why you run out of yellow ink first? It prints a tiny yellow number on each thing you print.
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Yup you ever wonder why you run out of yellow ink first? It prints a tiny yellow number on each thing you print.

I never noticed, but honestly, if its such a tiny number, I doubt it would really take that much ink....
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:28 PM   #17
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Not too good of an idea to post that. That is actually illegal.
No, that was changed after Sports Illustrated printed a basketball hoop filled with money.
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No, that was changed after Sports Illustrated printed a basketball hoop filled with money.
No its not that law. The images he posted are direct scans.
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I was able to scan in a two dollar bill with my printer (half the time it would take to copy all those dollar bills) for http://www.2bucktrials.com/
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the newer copiers have software that prints a tiny code on everything you print. I think you know why.
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Yup you ever wonder why you run out of yellow ink first? It prints a tiny yellow number on each thing you print.
not a code , but much rather a series of dots on the page , they quite small and scattered around the page , the dots are codings

and here's a list of the printers
http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/list.php
most are the highend workgroup style printers

here's a way to do see the dots
scanned a print out from your printer, adjust brightness and contrast and make it a negative to enhance the dots. you can see them as blue dots.

http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/docucolor/

there was a kid in my home town here in australia , over here we use plastic notes , he went down to the local pc joint picked up some priting plastic stuff , , scanned the 50 buck notes , he couldn't get the texture or security seals , so he spent the fake notes at macca's , only reason he got caught was he told his friends , his friend told there friends next thing the cops are banging down his door

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if you brought the printer with your credit card , your details are linked to the seriel number , so your easily busted, so just make sure you pay with cash and don't feel out any warranty records
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what's macca's??
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Canon got the shit sued out of them by the US Gov. because the green thay were using was exactly the same as on the money. Someone in Miami actually printed 4 million dollars in 1 dollar bills.


Got caught because they tried to pass them off to strippers in a club. The strippers said that the instant the guys handed them to them, they knew they were fakes.
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Not too good of an idea to post that. That is actually illegal.
no it's not...

The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section 411 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color illustrations of U.S. currency provided:
the illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated;

the illustration is one-sided; and

all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.
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ya id take that pic of the 20 dollar bill down now lol
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Canon got the shit sued out of them by the US Gov. because the green thay were using was exactly the same as on the money. Someone in Miami actually printed 4 million dollars in 1 dollar bills.


Got caught because they tried to pass them off to strippers in a club. The strippers said that the instant the guys handed them to them, they knew they were fakes.
Anyone else have a vision of a bank with strippers standing behind the tellers checking each note the customer hands over? I wouldn't mind paying bank fees for that...
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Try setting the Enlarge to 150% and see if it works. It's not illegal to copy money or use it for graphics, as long as you following the rules I posted above. I have used money in many printed ad campaigns, signage, billboards, etc..
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no it's not...

The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section 411 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color illustrations of U.S. currency provided:
the illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated;

the illustration is one-sided; and

all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.
Sounds illegal to me, he put a copy of the scan on the web, it sounds like that last paragraph prohibits just that...
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Sounds illegal to me, he put a copy of the scan on the web, it sounds like that last paragraph prohibits just that...
Maybe he isn't done using it, says after final use. As long as it's 150% bigger than the original, he's fine.
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no it's not...

The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section 411 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color illustrations of U.S. currency provided:
the illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated;

the illustration is one-sided; and

all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.

Ya so what you just posted makes it seem that indeed what is posted is illegal. I could right click save as, then set the size right and print those out. Both sides are there.
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Ya so what you just posted makes it seem that indeed what is posted is illegal. I could right click save as, then set the size right and print those out. Both sides are there.
and? doesn't say you can't do both sides, just says it has to be a single sided illustration, which they are. There is no way to do a two-sided illustration on the web. Two sided means you turn it over and there's somethign printed on the other side...

And if you take them and set them to the right size, then it is you who is doing something illegal, not him.
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and? doesn't say you can't do both sides, just says it has to be a single sided illustration, which they are. There is no way to do a two-sided illustration on the web. Two sided means you turn it over and there's somethign printed on the other side...

And if you take them and set them to the right size, then it is you who is doing something illegal, not him.
Ya ok...
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Ya ok...
I think the problem may be that you are confusing yourself with someone who knows what they are talking about.
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I think the problem may be that you are confusing yourself with someone who knows what they are talking about.
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I think the problem may be that you are confusing yourself with someone who knows what they are talking about.
Didnt realize we had a department of the treasury employee here on gfy....
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Speaking of dept. of treasury.

Printed reproductions, including photographs of paper currency, checks, bonds, postage stamps, revenue stamps, and securities of the United States and foreign governments (except under the conditions previously listed) are violations of Title 18, Section 474 of the United States Code. Violations are punishable by fines of up to $5,000, or 15 years imprisonment, or both.

http://www.bep.treas.gov/document.cfm/18/103

Including photographs of paper currency. Seems pretty clear to me.
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Speaking of dept. of treasury.

Printed reproductions, including photographs of paper currency, checks, bonds, postage stamps, revenue stamps, and securities of the United States and foreign governments (except under the conditions previously listed) are violations of Title 18, Section 474 of the United States Code. Violations are punishable by fines of up to $5,000, or 15 years imprisonment, or both.

http://www.bep.treas.gov/document.cfm/18/103

Including photographs of paper currency. Seems pretty clear to me.
LOL, you love talking out your ass don't you?

http://www.secretservice.gov/money_illustrations.shtml

Keep trying, eventually, if they change the laws, you'll be right.
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Photographic or other likenesses of other United States obligations and securities and foreign currencies are permissible for any non-fraudulent purpose, provided the items are reproduced in black and white and are less than three-quarters or greater than one-and-one-half times the size, in linear dimension, of any part of the original item being reproduced. Negatives and plates used in making the likenesses must be destroyed after their use for the purpose for which they were made. This policy permits the use of currency reproductions in commercial advertisements, provided they conform to the size and color restrictions.
More there. Seems you left out the must be only black and white part. Notice it said AND, and not OR. The pics above are infact illegal.

http://www.treas.gov/usss/money_illustrations.shtml
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LOL, you love talking out your ass don't you?

http://www.secretservice.gov/money_illustrations.shtml

Keep trying, eventually, if they change the laws, you'll be right.
Time to eat crow bubba. Maybe you dont have a color monitor yet, but those bills are quite green.

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Funny how you extracted the black and white part each time you quoted that. Hmmmmmm.
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Time to eat crow bubba. Maybe you dont have a color monitor yet, but those bills are quite green.

LOL you are retarded... there is U.S. Currency and then there are OTHER Obligations and Securities (ie. Bonds).

Nice try though...

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Funny how you extracted the black and white part each time you quoted that. Hmmmmmm.
Hey genius, just click the link and read... I didn't extract anything...

Give it up, you obviously don't know what you are talking about, it's ok.
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Speaking of dept. of treasury.

Printed reproductions, including photographs of paper currency, checks, bonds, postage stamps, revenue stamps, and securities of the United States and foreign governments (except under the conditions previously listed) are violations of Title 18, Section 474 of the United States Code. Violations are punishable by fines of up to $5,000, or 15 years imprisonment, or both.

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Including photographs of paper currency. Seems pretty clear to me.
You need to learn what the word "printed" means.
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You need to learn what the word "printed" means.
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LOL you are retarded... there is U.S. Currency and then there are OTHER Obligations and Securities (ie. Bonds).

Nice try though...

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Well you have yet to tell me how something posted online can be deleted by the initial user.

# all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.

Dont really care how you spin it, its illegal.
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You need to learn what the word "printed" means.

Including photographs.
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Old 01-07-2006, 07:31 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Well you have yet to tell me how something posted online can be deleted by the initial user.

# all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.

Dont really care how you spin it, its illegal.

You just keep coming back for more huh? Look up the word "after", then look up the word "final".

And if you don't know how he can delete something off his server, you might try a different hobby.
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