"Spammer lands $11 billion fine " - GoFuckYourself.com

Rui · 01-05-2006, 08:53 AM

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A SMALL ISP in the town of Clinton, Iowa, has just won one of the largest payouts ever extracted from a spammer.

The firm, CIS Internet Services, won $11.2 billion from James McCalla, from Florida, who was found to have sent millions of unsolicited e-mails advertising mortgage and debt consolidation services through the ISP's network.

A lawsuit claimed that McCalla sent more than 280 million illegal spam e-mail messages. Frims advertised in the spam had already been ordered to cough up a billion dollars in damages.

Prosecutors argued that under state law in effect at the time, CIS was entitled to $10 per illegal e-mail.

The Iowa court was told the defendants "falsely and illegally" represented that their e-mails originated from the CIS domain The e-mails used the cis.net as a return address to disguise the source of the e-mails to avoid complaints.

CIS acknowledged that it is unlikely to see any of the judgement money but said that it was time that spammers learnt that their actions would result in an economic death penalty.

http://www.qctimes.net/articles/2006...138542.txt#top

Doctor Dre · 01-05-2006, 08:54 AM

Outch ... 280 mills emails ? a spammer can do that in a day...

spacedog · 01-05-2006, 08:56 AM

Is that why bdjuf hasnt been posting

jacked · 01-05-2006, 08:58 AM

dam thats some fucked up shit $10/per illegal e-mail

rowan · 01-05-2006, 09:13 AM

"CIS acknowledged that it is unlikely to see any of the judgement money..."

Fuck that. Even if you get $500k it's better than nothing. Don't stop until the spammer is bankrupt.

sumphatpimp · 01-05-2006, 09:14 AM

DMS=don't mean shit
with the money they made, they will move offshore and continue on.

Rui · 01-05-2006, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sumphatpimp

DMS=don't mean shit
with the money they made, they will move offshore and continue on.

You really think so?

Pryda · 01-05-2006, 09:18 AM

I hope the spammer pays till he dies

pawsregd · 01-05-2006, 09:19 AM

Good to hear

dynastoned · 01-05-2006, 09:19 AM

that spammer will never see the light of day... attached wages for life haha wow shitty..

sweetcuties · 01-05-2006, 09:20 AM

great news... their the biggest pieces of shit

Tom_PM · 01-05-2006, 09:29 AM

Whew! Now thats a deterrant!
On the other hand, it's way too high! They want to cap medical jury awards, but a single spammer amounts to billions? I dont think thats as damaging as a botched operation or something that literally damages a person.

fr0gman · 01-05-2006, 09:36 AM

They will not see a dime. The judge that levied that amount should be disbarred. That is a slap in the face of the ant-spam people in that the judge issues some "cartoon amount" that he and everyone around him knows will never be paid.

Financial Death Penalty? Think about it... if you worked at a lending institution and some guy showed up for a loan and you saw that he had a judgment for 1/2 of the deficit of the state of California would you take it seriously or would you write it off as some kind of error?

An 11 billion dollar judgment is a joke no matter how you look at it.

FlogTheLog · 01-05-2006, 09:39 AM

i have no idea how i will pay the $11 billion , sorry if you got my spam guys

artman · 01-05-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Outch ... 280 mills emails ? a spammer can do that in a day...

no they cant dumbass, thats over 100000 emails a minute

Sosa · 01-05-2006, 09:58 AM

jesus. wonder how long it will take for others to do the same thing.

Young · 01-05-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

They will not see a dime. The judge that levied that amount should be disbarred. That is a slap in the face of the ant-spam people in that the judge issues some "cartoon amount" that he and everyone around him knows will never be paid.
.

You're a moron. Judgements like this are common. It will be brought down to a more reasonable amount via appeal.

A balloon judgement like that will prevent the spammer from ever setting up shop again.

Disbarred? Fucking moron.

AsianDevil · 01-05-2006, 10:01 AM

BLAHAHHAHA, about time some of these spammers get sent a message they don't want to see or hear. =_)

pornguy · 01-05-2006, 10:05 AM

That spammer will move and set up again. the only thing that will stop him, is by putting him in jail.

Violetta · 01-05-2006, 10:26 AM

1 down, 1.000.000 to go!

kristin · 01-05-2006, 10:31 AM

I wish I got paid $10/email ...

Gnat69 · 01-05-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

I wish I got paid $10/email ...

I was thinking the same thing...lol

sorry about that guys luck...haha

SmokeyTheBear · 01-05-2006, 10:45 AM

what a fucking tool that judge is.. meaningless fine...

He can just claim bankrupt and he is free and clear.

They should have set it at some reasonable level that would imply he might actually pay it.. ( and bar him from the net )

SmokeyTheBear · 01-05-2006, 10:46 AM

i still like the idea of a handwritten apology to every person he spammed

that would keep him busy

Furious_Male · 01-05-2006, 10:53 AM

Just checked my inbox and junk box no reduction.

Babagirls · 01-05-2006, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

what a fucking tool that judge is.. meaningless fine...
He can just claim bankrupt and he is free and clear.

thats what i would do

SmokeyTheBear · 01-05-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

A balloon judgement like that will prevent the spammer from ever setting up shop again.

not really .. the huge fine makes it impossible to pay , thus he will claim bankruptcy , and can start up again not owing anybody a dime.

so i have to kind of agree with buddy that the judge should be disbarred for not stepping in with a more realistic judgement that would work..

Nysus · 01-05-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

They will not see a dime. The judge that levied that amount should be disbarred. That is a slap in the face of the ant-spam people in that the judge issues some "cartoon amount" that he and everyone around him knows will never be paid.

Financial Death Penalty? Think about it... if you worked at a lending institution and some guy showed up for a loan and you saw that he had a judgment for 1/2 of the deficit of the state of California would you take it seriously or would you write it off as some kind of error?

An 11 billion dollar judgment is a joke no matter how you look at it.

Unless it's Microsoft or someone big..

Matt

dcortez · 01-05-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i still like the idea of a handwritten apology to every person he spammed

that would keep him busy

And it's not even adult-related - need more of these mainstream convictions to offset generalizations about legitimate adult industry.

NoWhErE · 01-05-2006, 11:34 AM

280 mil e-mails doesn't seem like much... I feel I get that many spams per day in my inbox...

sfera · 01-05-2006, 11:36 AM

thats hefty lol

kektex · 01-05-2006, 11:41 AM

I realize he will never pay that much but it`s soooo good.
I hope he pays till his last days on earth.

kenny · 01-05-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

what a fucking tool that judge is.. meaningless fine...

He can just claim bankrupt and he is free and clear.

They should have set it at some reasonable level that would imply he might actually pay it.. ( and bar him from the net )

You can't bankrupt fines, restitution, or taxes

smack · 01-05-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Whew! Now thats a deterrant!

do you really think that will stop anyone from spamming?

sorry it break it to you but it won't.

people till just move off shore and than not worry.

it's like the war on drugs, it's not something you can stop.

Tom_PM · 01-05-2006, 11:47 AM

I dont think it will stop current spammers from spamming. But I think if someone was going to start, they might not now.

But it's way too high. makes no sense realistically.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-05-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

You can't bankrupt fines, restitution, or taxes

really ? hmm i guess you really do learn something new everyday..

Im not a legal expert but didn't o.j. simpson declare bancruptcy , and got off on a bunch of fines and such ( perhaps im mistaken and it wasn't fines ? )

Tom_PM · 01-05-2006, 11:48 AM

I think OJ has all his money offshore in various companies. It's not "his" this way, lol.

kenny · 01-05-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

really ? hmm i guess you really do learn something new everyday..

Im not a legal expert but didn't o.j. simpson declare bancruptcy , and got off on a bunch of fines and such ( perhaps im mistaken and it wasn't fines ? )

"bankruptcy generally will not rid you of debts for child support, taxes, alimony, fines, and many student loans, as well as debts incurred by fraud or malicious injury. Under some circumstances a debtor can be denied discharge of all his debts as opposed to certain specific debts. If this happens the primary reason for filing bankruptcy is defeated"

http://www.uls.state.ut.us/uls/flyers/bank1204.htm

OJ moved to Florida to take advantage of their homestead protection law.

Any other state would take his house and shit

chupachups · 01-05-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by artman

no they cant dumbass, thats over 100000 emails a minute

You dont know much about mailing dude, and yeah, he said "can".

kenny · 01-05-2006, 12:05 PM

The spammer can move offshore and spam until the powers that be freeze his accounts and pull the plugs on his servers

SmokeyTheBear · 01-05-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny

OJ moved to Florida to take advantage of their homestead protection law.

Any other state would take his house and shit

yah i seem to remember hearing about this..

SmokeyTheBear · 01-05-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by artman

no they cant dumbass, thats over 100000 emails a minute

thats not hard

Kimmykim · 01-05-2006, 12:56 PM

It never fails to amaze me as to how the GFY financial and legal interpretations work.

Wages get garnished for things like child support and income taxes, not generally in civil suits, even with awards. I'm not saying it can't happen, just that it doesn't happen very often.

Judgements and liens don't mean too terribly much too, unless you are trying to either buy something on credit or sell real property, such as real estate. If you own property and there is a lien against you, it must be paid off before the title to the property can be transferred. Cars, boats, that sort of thing don't generally count in a lien situation either. Only real estate and the like. Once again, this is not an absolute rule, it's just how it generally is done.

Next, no spammer that I know would ever bother putting their own name on their shit anyway. That's what their moms, kids, etc are for...

All in all, I'd say the chances of the judgement ever being paid would be zero. Spammer just buys stuff in another country paying cash and lives happily ever after.

MrJackMeHoff · 01-05-2006, 01:02 PM

The entire adult industry would fold in half if spam died.. Dont be so quick to try to kill it. It is a nescasary evil.

MrJackMeHoff · 01-05-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny

You can't bankrupt fines, restitution, or taxes

Bullshit yes you can.

wedouglas · 01-05-2006, 01:04 PM

All the anti-spam people act like they wouldn't jump on the ability to spam.

Tom_PM · 01-05-2006, 01:06 PM

Well our programs dont email, not even to existing members. So it can die.

GoodGuy · 01-05-2006, 01:08 PM

yeah, i hate spam, but i seriously think, this newspaper is doing cheap propaganda, I reported spam a lot of times (even directly to sponsors), and nobody ever took care about it.

ilbb · 01-05-2006, 01:12 PM

Spammers sucks my balls

pornstar2pac · 01-05-2006, 01:13 PM

50

yes! i won!

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rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	"CIS acknowledged that it is unlikely to see any of the judgement money..." Fuck that. Even if you get $500k it's better than nothing. Don't stop until the spammer is bankrupt.

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