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Old 01-01-2006, 08:32 PM   #1
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Joe, (amacontent) what do I have to do to get my money?

Joe, I hate to take this public but I feel like this is just one of two options I have left to try to get my money back.

I prepaid for 10 custom videos in March 05. Each video was $250, total I sent to you was $2,500. I specifically remember telling you that I wanted to pay for 5 at a time and just wanted to send you half at first. You told me that I had nothing to worry about, that you have never screwed anyone before and you had a good rep, and you insisted that I send the money for all 10, which I did. I had also purchased 5K worth of content a couple months before this and did not have any problems so I took your word for it.

About a month or so later I received 3 videos, you told me you would finish the rest asap. From this point on correspondence with you was very poor. Since I was working on other projects, and had purchased content from you in the past, I told you (after 3 months of waiting) that I would just take the balance and apply it towards future content purchases for my other projects I had in the works. After the hurricane, all of my work got backed up bad, and those projects were put on hold indefinitely. At this point I started trying to contact you again. I explained to you my situation and that I would like a refund for the balance (7 videos @250 = $1750 I was owed). You didn't reply.

It was about one month ago you contacted me and said that you had 5 videos completed and you forgot to send them to me. Even though I was asking for a refund at this point, it was nice to know that you had finally completed some of the work, and I was willing to accept it instead of the refund. I was a little upset though, because part of the deal was that I was suppose to approve each model for the shoot so I was a little anxious to see what the girls looked like that were used. I specifically said all along that I needed different types of models (niches) for each shoot. Unfortunately for me, you didn't have any of their pictures online. So.... you said you were sending the videos and I would have to wait to receive them to see if they were something I could even use.

About a week ago I finally got you to reply and asked you where the videos were ? I didn't receive anything in the mail. You told me that you had the tracking number for the package. After a couple days of asking you for the tracking number you told me that your secretary had lost it. I then asked you to resend them and after a few more days you told me you weren't sure if you had copies.

Let's see, I wait months for work I prepaid for, I then accept the fact you are either too busy or can't do the rest of the work for me so I suggest I convert the amount I paid towards content from your store (I had a feeling a refund would be hard to get, lol). When I later notify you that I will not be buying content from you, then 5 videos magically appear. And then they magically disappear. No tracking number, no copies, no nothing.

I told you last Wednesday you had till the end of the day Thursday to either find the videos (that I doubt were ever made in the first place) and send them and the balance $500 by the end of the day. If you could not find the videos then I expected payment by the end of the day for the $1750 owed to me. I gave you paypal and epassport options, or send check. Either way you had to send something by the end of the day and I wanted the tracking number for proof if you were sending through the mail. Thursday came and went with no reply, Friday, Saturday and Sunday for that matter too.

I want my fucking money. Why does it have to be so hard to refund someone. You didn't do the work, so you can't keep the money. IF you did do the work and you lost it, that makes no difference to me, I didn't get what I paid for. I was VERY patient with you. It just pisses me off that people do business this way, and all along you keep telling me how you never screwed anyone before. (when i was even lucky enough to get a reply from you.) You were suppose to have all 10 done in like 3 weeks time, it's been over 9 months and you are still screwing me around. I would refund someone right away if I couldn't do the work they paid for, but that is just me. Action is worth a thousand words.

I hope by posting this you will send the money, apologize and make up a few excuses about what happened and we can all move on. If you still keep screwing me around I will pass this to my attorney to contact you. Between Ibill, and 3 -4 other situations like this (where I paid someone for something and they did nothing and tried to avoid me and keep the money) I am keeping my attorney busy never the less. Nothing pisses me off more then when you pay for something and the other party not only doesn't follow through but they try to keep your money.

Let me know how you plan to proceed.
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Hopefully everything is resolved quickly for both parties.
Like you had time to read everything.
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:40 PM   #7
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Hmm. Hoping you guys can resolve it.
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p1mpdogg told me Wills lawyers are in the mafia and are very scary.
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Omg...Joe from AMA..i miss these types of drama hater threads...lol


Our experience with Joe from AMA:

1. We have spent thousands and thousands of dollars and there has never ever been a problem.

2. I can always reach him on the phone, he always calls me back, he is a pro at what he does, that is how he makes his living, i can only think this is some kind of misunderstanding .....

3. 2500 bucks is money but not that much to cash in a hard earned rep with many many people in this biz.

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you guys know nothing about the latest fast-reading techniques ;)
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p1mpdogg told me Wills lawyers are in the mafia and are very scary.

haha! yeah sometimes it is best to let things go but not when it concerns paying for something that you did not receive.

i wonder if my lawyers happen to know ibills owners then ? lol conflict of interest ?
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Some people are patient and don't like to create drama. I waited for 9 months for Perfection Jeff to pay me $120 before I started a thread.
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3. 2500 bucks is money but not that much to cash in a hard earned rep with many many people in this biz.

Are you serious? What are you? A newbie? Its done for far less then $2500.00 Try $50.00 or nothing. Just to fuck with someone that thnk they know or shouldnt liek for political reasons.

Im sure theres more to the story here. Joe is a good guy by every account. Im sure this will be resolved. Crazy that someone would bring their business issues here though. Things liek this not only look bad for the person who si beign accused, but the accuser also.

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Our experience with Joe from AMA:

1. We have spent thousands and thousands of dollars and there has never ever been a problem.

2. I can always reach him on the phone, he always calls me back, he is a pro at what he does, that is how he makes his living, i can only think this is some kind of misunderstanding .....

3. 2500 bucks is money but not that much to cash in a hard earned rep with many many people in this biz.



Yup...same here...spend thousands every month.
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see reply #14.... I was giving him the benefit of doubt.


I am sure Joe is a good guy and deals with people a lot bigger then me and the $7500 (total) I spent with him. The $1750 isn't a lot of money either, more of the principle at this point. He even told me himself several times he wanted to make good on this and that he has never screwed anyone before.

All of that is fine, but it is one thing to say it and another to do it. And I am just getting tired of excuses and waiting.
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Are you serious? What are you? A newbie? Its done for far less then $2500.00 Try $50.00 or nothing. Just to fuck with someone that thnk they know or shouldnt liek for political reasons.

Im sure theres more to the story here. Joe is a good guy by every account. Im sure this will be resolved. Crazy that someone would bring their business issues here though. Things liek this not only look bad for the person who si beign accused, but the accuser also.


everything i said is true and if Joe is half the man that everyone here is stating he will confirm that everything I have said was true. There is no more to the story. I came here as a last resort to lawsuit period. Private communication was getting no where. If that makes me look bad to you then you can kiss my ass I really don't give a shit what you think.
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everything i said is true and if Joe is half the man that everyone here is stating he will confirm that everything I have said was true. There is no more to the story. I came here as a last resort to lawsuit period. Private communication was getting no where. If that makes me look bad to you then you can kiss my ass I really don't give a shit what you think.
Just an FYI, Shootic_Manic = Perfection Jeff. See my earlier msg in this thread. Ironic that he posted immediately after mine.
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Just an FYI, Shootic_Manic = Perfection Jeff. See my earlier msg in this thread. Ironic that he posted immediately after mine.

thats funny how he screws you, and he is the one that says people who make post about getting screwed look bad too. lol
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This is totally my fuck up.. Will has been more than patient.He should not be made to look bad as Im the one that fucked up. People know me a long time and know I never do this intentionally. Im not gonna use this as excuse but I fired everyone in my office due to incompetence and Will got caught in middle.
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This is totally my fuck up.. Will has been more than patient.He should not be made to look bad as Im the one that fucked up. People know me a long time and know I never do this intentionally. Im not gonna use this as excuse but I fired everyone in my office due to incompetence and Will got caught in middle.

huh? are you out to destroy a potential drama? call him lier and thief for start,do something man
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This is totally my fuck up.. Will has been more than patient.He should not be made to look bad as Im the one that fucked up. People know me a long time and know I never do this intentionally. Im not gonna use this as excuse but I fired everyone in my office due to incompetence and Will got caught in middle.
thanks....

Joe has given me a tracking number and sending tomorrow. Everything has been resolved.

I appreciate the honesty, 9 out of 10 people here would have denied this and argued or been pissed that i said anything and used that as a reason to not pay. thanks for making it right.
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honourable post there joe ...

you have some big balls to stand up and say your mistake. I wish others would do same.

bump for will
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thanks....

Joe has given me a tracking number and sending tomorrow. Everything has been resolved.
Everything is resolved ONLY when you have the refund or the product you ordered in your hands...

Hats off to Joe for replying promptly and without any BS, let's hope he follows through.
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2. I can always reach him on the phone, he always calls me back, he is a pro at what he does, that is how he makes his living, i can only think this is some kind of misunderstanding .....

3. 2500 bucks is money but not that much to cash in a hard earned rep with many many people in this biz.

Same here ... we never have any problems with Joe
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This is totally my fuck up.. Will has been more than patient.He should not be made to look bad as Im the one that fucked up. People know me a long time and know I never do this intentionally. Im not gonna use this as excuse but I fired everyone in my office due to incompetence and Will got caught in middle.
You fired everyone in your office?!? Dayum!!!

Hey Joe, glad to hear this is resolved...you've always done good by me, and I hope to see you in Sin City.

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Just an FYI, Shootic_Manic = Perfection Jeff. See my earlier msg in this thread. Ironic that he posted immediately after mine.
Dude... you think WAY to much of yourself and I didnt even notice or read your post, even now, I have not seen it. You have some ego to think I follow your post around or even sort of care what you have to say. Love that Doggieteens traffic I buy from ya though every month... just stick to that, would ya?

You are soooo old and tired. Like who I am makes my comments any less true. As for your comments... wheres the timeline pic when ya need it.

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ahhh lol there it is! haha

And ive spent 10 times that if not way more on traffic from you through your broker since then. I dont hold grudes here.. I dont let petty shit get in the way of making money.... but yeah... your moral code is sooooo much higher then ours.

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This is totally my fuck up.. Will has been more than patient.He should not be made to look bad as Im the one that fucked up. People know me a long time and know I never do this intentionally. Im not gonna use this as excuse but I fired everyone in my office due to incompetence and Will got caught in middle.

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yes i did
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Old 01-01-2006, 11:40 PM   #43
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ahhh lol there it is! haha

And ive spent 10 times that if not way more on traffic from you through your broker since then. I dont hold grudes here.. I dont let petty shit get in the way of making money.... but yeah... your moral code is sooooo much higher then ours.
I guess you missed the smileys in my post. And others. I've always thought the whole thing with us was a bit of a joke. I don't hold grudges either, I just like repeating funny stories...

PS: You know you're paying $7/k+ for traffic which I sell directly for <$5.50/k ?
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Old 01-01-2006, 11:53 PM   #44
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First rate response!!



true, it is an imperfect world and all of us make mistakes.

kudos to a guy who admits it and does the right thing.
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:02 AM   #45
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:06 AM   #46
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you guys know nothing about the latest fast-reading techniques ;)
Seriously, I took the Evelyn Wood Speed Reading course. I suggest people should check it out. I can be very impatient when reading so the speed reading course helped eliminate boring reading.
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:09 AM   #47
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Are you serious? What are you? A newbie? Its done for far less then $2500.00 Try $50.00 or nothing. Just to fuck with someone that thnk they know or shouldnt liek for political reasons.

Im sure theres more to the story here. Joe is a good guy by every account. Im sure this will be resolved. Crazy that someone would bring their business issues here though. Things liek this not only look bad for the person who si beign accused, but the accuser also.

Shooting_Maniac....the real question is who are you?....never heard of ya.
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:11 AM   #48
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This is totally my fuck up.. Will has been more than patient.He should not be made to look bad as Im the one that fucked up. People know me a long time and know I never do this intentionally. Im not gonna use this as excuse but I fired everyone in my office due to incompetence and Will got caught in middle.

you just proved right there that you are a stand up guy. Many people would have made up excuses and never have taken the blame. At least there are some good, honest people in this business
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:29 AM   #49
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Shooting_Maniac....the real question is who are you?....never heard of ya.

Dont worry Mike.... I know who you are ;) And, I was here three years before you fucked with RogerV's girl. haha You did him a fav... and I think he thanks ya for it now.
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:37 AM   #50
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whenever anyone has asked me about content i have sent them to amacontent, time and time again, nothing but quality. i knew there must have been some mixup. way to work things out.
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