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Old 12-17-2005, 02:37 PM   #1
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:mad Go Fuck Yourself AVN.

So I went to my mailing center to pick up my mail today. The guy working behind the counter hands me my mail and he has a big shit eating grin on his face.

I know the dude is as queer as a 3 dollar bill and now I am wondering why he is looking at me this way.

So, I promptly go through my mail and what do I find? There's a very NON-discreet piece of mail informing me of my "Free subscription to gayvn magazine."

Now Puff the Magic Cocksucker at the mailing center thinks I'm into guys too.

Not fucking cool.
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:38 PM   #2
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:40 PM   #4
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at least you should be able to get better service at your mailing center now
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It's bad enough that AVN Online comes labeled as adult material but now this shit?

At least Klixxx has enough class to be discreet about things.
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you should opt out of the AVN mailing if things like this embarass you. You're a adult webmaster, get over it.

At least thats what AVN Chris told me when I bitched about this same mailer.
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:42 PM   #7
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:42 PM   #8
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If you give your real name or mailing address out to anyone on the Internet, you are stupid.

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You can Go Fuck Yourself too.
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I agree with you, I did not appreciate the gayvn labeling on the mail that I recieved from AVN. I know they send this stuff out, but they can put in discreet envelop and not have a pic of two dudes on the cover.
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you're right, how stupid is it of me to give a company my address to mail my checks too. what the fuck was I thinking
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you're right, how stupid is it of me to give a company my address to mail my checks too. what the fuck was I thinking
Ever heard of wires? Or epassporte?

95% of programs do either of those.
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Now Puff the Magic Cocksucker at the mailing center thinks I'm into guys too.



lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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you should opt out of the AVN mailing if things like this embarass you. You're a adult webmaster, get over it.

At least thats what AVN Chris told me when I bitched about this same mailer.

I'm not embarrassed about it. I'm pissed off at AVN's lack of discretion. We deal with a sensitive business and are often judged by others because of it. Everybody at my mailing center knows who I am and EXACTLY what I do for a living but that's not the point. What if they didn't? What if that mailing, with two half naked men on the front of it, had gone to my house and I had kids who found it?

There are a million "what ifs" that could happen here because AVN does not have enough respect for us to be discreet.

And Chris should be fired for having that kind of a shitty attitude.
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So I went to my mailing center to pick up my mail today. The guy working behind the counter hands me my mail and he has a big shit eating grin on his face.

I know the dude is as queer as a 3 dollar bill and now I am wondering why he is looking at me this way.

So, I promptly go through my mail and what do I find? There's a very NON-discreet piece of mail informing me of my "Free subscription to gayvn magazine."

Now Puff the Magic Cocksucker at the mailing center thinks I'm into guys too.

Not fucking cool.
dont be mad aaron - look on the bright side.

maybe you'll get a discount on stamps!
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Ever heard of wires? Or epassporte?

95% of programs do either of those.
yet, even when signing up for a program and choosing one of those options, you still need to provide a address.

if you're going to attempt to troll. at least try and appear somewhat intelligent for a few posts instead of going straight to the talk out my ass mode
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i got some shit from em too yo , Yo aaron iliked the quote yo
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Why doesn't everyone just hang on to them, then toss them back at them at the show?
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I'm not embarrassed about it. I'm pissed off at AVN's lack of discretion. We deal with a sensitive business and are often judged by others because of it. Everybody at my mailing center knows who I am and EXACTLY what I do for a living but that's not the point. What if they didn't? What if that mailing, with two half naked men on the front of it, had gone to my house and I had kids who found it?

There are a million "what ifs" that could happen here because AVN does not have enough respect for us to be discreet.

And Chris should be fired for having that kind of a shitty attitude.
I know what you mean, I dont hide what I do for a living either. However, my 7 yr old was the one who went and got te mail out of the box and came across this mailer. Just another one of those 'what ifs' due to their lack of forethought and discression.
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What if that mailing, with two half naked men on the front of it, had gone to my house and I had kids who found it?
Check this out.

The other day my roommate was watching his little brother, I think he's about 8. We were all in the living room playing Tony Hawk on X-Box. I hear the mailman deliver the mail. I ask him if he would do me a favor and grab the mail for me, he likes helping me out. He comes back with the mail and a very strange look on his face.

Yeh, you guessed it. Is grabbing mail out of the mailbox supposed to be an 18+ job these days?

I work from home, not an office, as a large chunk of this industry does. It would be wise for AVN to know their target market.
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i got some shit from em too yo , Yo aaron iliked the quote yo

LOL....NOICE!
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yet, even when signing up for a program and choosing one of those options, you still need to provide a address.
You don't have to enter your real address.


So I point out your stupid statements and all of the sudden i'm a troll?

Go fuck yourself.
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Nce to see that they really give a shit.

Assholes.

Only thing they care about is $$$

I agree they are cockcmokers.
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yo i am in AC yo , Izzy cut me off from gambling he wont give me my wallet or atm cards till tomorrow.
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Ya know....Ever since JenAVN left that company, they seem to have really gone downhill on a lot of things.

Some people care about their customers/readers and some don't. AVN shit on Jen and now they are shitting on the rest of us too.
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So I point out your stupid statements and all of the sudden i'm a troll?

Go fuck yourself.
its always good to provide false info

its not your pointing out of my statements that makes you a troll. Its much more simple then that... your worthless opinions and posts does it.

and its not a all of a sudden thing
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So I point out your stupid statements and all of the sudden i'm a troll?

Go fuck yourself.


No no.....You've pretty much been a troll with every post I have read from you this year. It's not an "all of the sudden" kinda thing.

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It is fun, man. You know are you in the bizz so you should take like a joke or just say i do not care. Kind of a hypocrite
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It is fun, man. You know are you in the bizz so you should take like a joke or just say i do not care. Kind of a hypocrite
Show me how I am being a hypocrite or STFU.
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Ya know....Ever since JenAVN left that company, they seem to have really gone downhill on a lot of things.

Some people care about their customers/readers and some don't. AVN shit on Jen and now they are shitting on the rest of us too.

AMEN AaronM

Didn't somethign like that happened to Sleazy last summer. I remember he ws really pissed off and posted about it.

Now you would think one would learn a lesson.

This is fucking stupid... HOw about we send some big ugly hoe's to the avn owners door on a Sunday afternoon and see how they would like that.
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hahahah you just labeled yourself as a troll.. NOICE!!!!
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bahahahahaha

Seriously though, I also wasnt happy with that mailer because I didnt want to chance the kiddies spying it.
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AMEN AaronM

Didn't somethign like that happened to Sleazy last summer. I remember he ws really pissed off and posted about it.

Now you would think one would learn a lesson.

This is fucking stupid... HOw about we send some big ugly hoe's to the avn owners door on a Sunday afternoon and see how they would like that.

Get me their address and I will be more then happy to return the favor to them 10 fold.
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its always good to provide false info
Well, enjoy your gay spam then.


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its not your pointing out of my statements that makes you a troll. Its much more simple then that... your worthless opinions and posts does it.
Well, my "worthless oppinions" are incidently right on target.
You can make huge money in adult business without giving anyone your real address or name.


Cheers, n00b.
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maybe you'll get a discount on stamps!
He may just pre-lick them for you too ....
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That sucks
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I don't think I've read a positive post about AVN in a long time ... why do people even support them would it hit our bottom line as an industry to take our advertising to one of the smaller guys ... I think the more we deal with the newer smaller guys the better there mags will get and the readers will follow. the smaller shows will get bigger and better ... I'm guilty myself of going to Vegas this year ... but I'm really re-thinking next year ... doesn't seem to me that they give a shit about anything but making there money (not the worst thing but they should be considerate)

I got Gayvn free also .. but Juicy pays for his ... FAG
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Whoever approved that and sent it out should be fired by AVN. It's just plain stupid.
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If everyone thinks they suck so bad, why does everyone go to their damn shows? They don't seem to give a rats ass about webmasters so why do you guys give them your money?
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I agree and not going.
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That's actually the primary reason that I am not attending the Vegas show this year.

Several of the old school major players figured this shit out a few years back and stopped putting up the huge booths and so forth. I never even stepped foot on the show floor in Florida this year but I spent a hell of a lot of money on rooms, bar tabs, and passes.
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Old 12-17-2005, 03:56 PM   #50
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what the fuck ever happened to the plain brown wrapper approach?

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