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Old 12-14-2005, 10:12 AM   #1
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Announcement: Mike Dutch doesn't work for Payserve anymore

Dear fellow GFY-ers,

Info:
Due to some recent events at Payserve, I have decided not to work there anymore and resign my job as marketing manager there. To avoid any speculations I would like to make it clear that we ended our working relationship on relative good terms.

I?m not allowed to tell anything about the situation so I won?t.
Neither can I be negative about Payserve, so I won?t.
So for those who are curious have bad luck

My competitors condition doesn?t allow me to work in the adult industry, so I won't, for a period of 1 full year starting from 1st October 2005.
So October the 1st 2006 I?ll be able to work in the adult again.

So what am I going to do this year ?
With so much time on my hand I decides to go back to school again.
Since October I?m doing a master at the Amsterdam University that specializes you in Project Management and Project Planning. This degree will give me the opportunity to manage projects in the ICT market and to be cost effective. Since the study is focused on the ICT market I will learn some background on programming to be able to plan complex ICT projects.

I can tell you that?s it?s pretty fun to go back to university and force yourself to learn and develop yourself again, I think it has been at least 4 years for me since I studied.

Besides that I work in the biggest night club in Amsterdam called Escape on Friday?s. So if you ever come to Amsterdam for a visit don?t hesitate to hit me up, so I can put you on the guest list and make sure you walk out on your hands and feet?s. Many of the people in the business can confirm that.

Thanks You
Concerning AskJolene
We still have a very good relationship with each other and Toine and me frequently meet up for a little beer. Due to my competitors condition I?m not allowed to work for them anymore so I won?t, although I regret that very much.

I wish Toine (AskJolene) and Pierre (Worldsex) all the best with AskJolene and all their other businesses. My appreciation goes out to them for their friendship, support and vision on the market.

All my business communication methods are taken by Payserve, since it was under their flag. So you can delete all my old contact info. My friends know where to contact me.

I met a lot of people in the industry that besides business have entered my private circle. I would like to thank everybody that I have done business with and that I had fun with during the shows or their visits here in Amsterdam. I can?t explain in words how welcoming some of you are! I don?t want to thank personally here, since I?ll probably forget to mention people

See you all 1st of October 2006 (online) or the next show that follows after that date.
I want to wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. I?ll drink one (probably more) on your health guys during the holidays.
And now GFY!

I?ll be Back

MIKE DUTCH



Note: I won?t be able to reply on this post since it?s possible that it?s not allowed due to my competitors condition. I don?t know, I?m not a lawyer.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:14 AM   #2
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:14 AM   #3
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:16 AM   #4
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dude...does the clause hold up?
i mean forcing someone out of an industry for a year...doesnt hold up here in canada..id be suprised if it held up there.

but anyway...best wishes

see you next year ;)
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oh, shit...

Good luck, Mike!
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:17 AM   #6
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:19 AM   #7
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Good luck Mike - Can't wait to see you back 2006.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:19 AM   #8
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Hey Mike! good luck man and a very happy new year to you to!
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:25 AM   #9
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I think one of the best guys in the business for sure!

Payserve should do the right thing and release you from that no compete .

Unless they are scared of something!!!!

in fact I might have to give some serious thought to if I pull my payserve traffic for a period of one year unless they do so.

I mean to not alow a guy to work for a period of a year is childish.

Anyways good luck Mike in all you do, I look forward to your return!
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:28 AM   #10
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Dear fellow GFY-ers,

Info:
Due to some recent events at Payserve, I have decided not to work there anymore and resign my job as marketing manager there. To avoid any speculations I would like to make it clear that we ended our working relationship on relative good terms.

I?m not allowed to tell anything about the situation so I won?t.
Neither can I be negative about Payserve, so I won?t.
So for those who are curious have bad luck

My competitors condition doesn?t allow me to work in the adult industry, so I won't, for a period of 1 full year starting from 1st October 2005.
So October the 1st 2006 I?ll be able to work in the adult again.

So what am I going to do this year ?
With so much time on my hand I decides to go back to school again.
Since October I?m doing a master at the Amsterdam University that specializes you in Project Management and Project Planning. This degree will give me the opportunity to manage projects in the ICT market and to be cost effective. Since the study is focused on the ICT market I will learn some background on programming to be able to plan complex ICT projects.

I can tell you that?s it?s pretty fun to go back to university and force yourself to learn and develop yourself again, I think it has been at least 4 years for me since I studied.

Besides that I work in the biggest night club in Amsterdam called Escape on Friday?s. So if you ever come to Amsterdam for a visit don?t hesitate to hit me up, so I can put you on the guest list and make sure you walk out on your hands and feet?s. Many of the people in the business can confirm that.

Thanks You
Concerning AskJolene
We still have a very good relationship with each other and Toine and me frequently meet up for a little beer. Due to my competitors condition I?m not allowed to work for them anymore so I won?t, although I regret that very much.

I wish Toine (AskJolene) and Pierre (Worldsex) all the best with AskJolene and all their other businesses. My appreciation goes out to them for their friendship, support and vision on the market.

All my business communication methods are taken by Payserve, since it was under their flag. So you can delete all my old contact info. My friends know where to contact me.

I met a lot of people in the industry that besides business have entered my private circle. I would like to thank everybody that I have done business with and that I had fun with during the shows or their visits here in Amsterdam. I can?t explain in words how welcoming some of you are! I don?t want to thank personally here, since I?ll probably forget to mention people

See you all 1st of October 2006 (online) or the next show that follows after that date.
I want to wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. I?ll drink one (probably more) on your health guys during the holidays.
And now GFY!

I?ll be Back

MIKE DUTCH



Note: I won?t be able to reply on this post since it?s possible that it?s not allowed due to my competitors condition. I don?t know, I?m not a lawyer.
In the US, we don't have such things as servitude and you have a right to work. Hiring a good attorney may find a loop hole in your agreement. Or on mutual consent, there maybe jobs you could do. To say someone can't work in a whole industry sounds a little to broad to me. I'm not an attorney!! Think it's hard to really give up rights just by contract. Kinda along the lines of you can't have a legal binding contract that would involve illegal activity. Non compete contracts need to be very specific I believe.

Anyway, sounds like you're happy going back to school. Best to ya.

This was not legal advice other than seek good legal help.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:28 AM   #11
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Non competes are almost completely impossible to uphold in the US also. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do. Seems everyone is making major job decisions this month
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:28 AM   #12
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:29 AM   #13
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in fact I might have to give some serious thought to if I pull my payserve traffic for a period of one year unless they do so.

I mean to not alow a guy to work for a period of a year is childish.
Facts my friend, its all about the facts
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and same to you, know the facts before you judge.

Thats all I am going to say about this.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:34 AM   #15
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Well since Mike can't reply to this thread ...

I always knew Mike loved to suck cocks, when I caught him blowing this guy in a bathroom stall ... ;)

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Old 12-14-2005, 10:34 AM   #16
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Hey buddy!!

Good to hear you are pursueing new ventures. I wish you all the best at uni. I hope you are allowed to share a drink with us Dutchies on an informal basis. I'm pretty sure we'll meet again in the future. Two thumbs up for you.

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Old 12-14-2005, 10:37 AM   #17
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:39 AM   #18
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Wow... Sucks because I enjoyed your support at AskJolene!
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You are awesome Mike! Please stay in touch. I wish you all the best and I think it's cool you get the time to go back to school!

If you ever get to LA, dinner is on me

xoxo happy holidays and the BEST in the New Year. xoxo
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Facts my friend, its all about the facts
Well My Partner , Boldy speaks highly of you personally. So him and I will discuss this situation.

I trust his judgement 110%, on a person.

However I know Mike to be a great guy as well.

So I definatly think this situation is unfortunate.
And the only fact I can see is a company stoping and individual from making a living. That never sets well with good hearted people.
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Well My Partner , Boldy speaks highly of you personally. So him and I will discuss this situation.

I trust his judgement 110%, on a person.

However I know Mike to be a great guy as well.

So I definatly think this situation is unfortunate.
And the only fact I can see is a company stoping and individual from making a living. That never sets well with good hearted people.
This is not about Mike being a great guy yes or no.

Remember there is always 2 sides of the story and to judge 1 side out of the blue is never a good thing ;))
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:54 AM   #24
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See ya Mike.

Don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out.

Do you need a plane ticket I heard Mensniche has some great deals on cheap plane tickets.
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Mike it's been a pleasure, and I really like the fact that you honor your committments with your previous employer. To often in this industry people don't live up to their promises and it's nice to see that you're a man of your word.

Best of luck at school and don't be a stranger.

All the best!
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Mike, glad to see you are still alive and kicking!

Will miss hanging out with you at the shows, you are one of my most favorite people who i enjoy many laughs with. I know one year will pass by very quickly.

Let me know when you come out this way to California, would love to see ya.


Have a very safe Holiday!
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with the free time you have now you can come visit us in San Diego!!!

yay!!
on the first day we can go to the zoo, then we can go the Baja for some lobster and margaritas, then we can go to Sea World, then we can go to the tide pools in Pt Loma, then we can go eat some yummy sushi at my favorite place downtown called Taka, then we can catch a hockey game with the Gulls, then we can go to Tonys favorite dive bar up the street from our house called Lancers, then we can go back to the Zoo, then we can go to the beach and watch the sunset, then we can go to happy hour, then we can go eat more sushi, then we can go out to another skanky dive bar called the Star Bar and get $3 stiff drinks, then we can take a nap, then we can do more sightseeing and then you can pet my dog, then we can go to the wild animal park, then we can go out for steak at the turf club, and then and then and then and then and then

I CANT WAIT
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Mike, You are my Dutch brother, so when you are back in October we shall rule the circuit again. Alright, we may not rule the circuit, but we will drink a lot. Also, when I am out in Amsterdam or anywhere else in Europe and I want to get lost in a car, you know I will be calling you. You always have an open invitation to come to Chicago as well.
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with the free time you have now you can come visit us in San Diego!!!

yay!!
on the first day we can go to the zoo, then we can go the Baja for some lobster and margaritas, then we can go to Sea World, then we can go to the tide pools in Pt Loma, then we can go eat some yummy sushi at my favorite place downtown called Taka, then we can catch a hockey game with the Gulls, then we can go to Tonys favorite dive bar up the street from our house called Lancers, then we can go back to the Zoo, then we can go to the beach and watch the sunset, then we can go to happy hour, then we can go eat more sushi, then we can go out to another skanky dive bar called the Star Bar and get $3 stiff drinks, then we can take a nap, then we can do more sightseeing and then you can pet my dog, then we can go to the wild animal park, then we can go out for steak at the turf club, and then and then and then and then and then

I CANT WAIT

you just made me miss san diego soooooooooooooooooooooo bad!

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with the free time you have now you can come visit us in San Diego!!!

yay!!
on the first day we can go to the zoo, then we can go the Baja for some lobster and margaritas, then we can go to Sea World, then we can go to the tide pools in Pt Loma, then we can go eat some yummy sushi at my favorite place downtown called Taka, then we can catch a hockey game with the Gulls, then we can go to Tonys favorite dive bar up the street from our house called Lancers, then we can go back to the Zoo, then we can go to the beach and watch the sunset, then we can go to happy hour, then we can go eat more sushi, then we can go out to another skanky dive bar called the Star Bar and get $3 stiff drinks, then we can take a nap, then we can do more sightseeing and then you can pet my dog, then we can go to the wild animal park, then we can go out for steak at the turf club, and then and then and then and then and then

I CANT WAIT
and after that ,, Live happily ever after
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:26 AM   #40
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Mike,

We will truly miss you. It was great being able to hang out with you inside and out of the shows. Laura's right, I hope you come and visit us. You are truly one of the greats in this industry and we'll miss you dearly. Don't be a stranger, hope to hear from you soon. I'll hit you up next time I am in Amsterdam.

I wish you all the best my friend.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:35 AM   #41
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good luck take care and see you in Oct. !!!
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:44 AM   #42
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dude...does the clause hold up?
i mean forcing someone out of an industry for a year...doesnt hold up here in canada..id be suprised if it held up there.

but anyway...best wishes

see you next year ;)

wouldnt hold up in a ton of usa states either.

i'd contest it.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:51 AM   #43
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You will be missed!

It really breaks my heart to hear that you won't be working for awhile with us. BUT it's not forever. You have a huge family in LA!! xo

We will ALWAYS be here for you. That's what friends are for. KNOW that you are more than welcome to come back to LA and kick it with all of us. Hell we'll throw a party or something in your honor!! And if you decide you'd rather visit SD plan on some of us traveling down just to see you my friend. HAHAH

Much love and light sent your way. Oh! and by the way.....I'm thrilled to hear you are back in school. So am I after all these years. Doesn't it feel soooo good?!!


Take care, I know we'll be in touch some how.

Merry Christmas and Have a STELLAR New Year! <3

Cuidate Yo!
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:51 AM   #44
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Non competes are almost completely impossible to uphold in the US also. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do. Seems everyone is making major job decisions this month

Non-competes, if written correctly will hold up, but it would have to be pretty specific, like you can not enter the same type of work.

Saying you can not work on the Internet is not specific enough.

Good luck Mike.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:52 AM   #45
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I think one of the best guys in the business for sure!

Payserve should do the right thing and release you from that no compete .

Unless they are scared of something!!!!

in fact I might have to give some serious thought to if I pull my payserve traffic for a period of one year unless they do so.

I mean to not alow a guy to work for a period of a year is childish.

Anyways good luck Mike in all you do, I look forward to your return!
I do agree its not kewl but we dont know all the facts

Best of luck Mike
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:52 AM   #46
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I'll miss ya Mike!! Hit me up and say hi once in a while... I promise not to talk about work, so I won?t

Have a great year bud!!
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:57 AM   #47
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read between the lines people
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:59 AM   #48
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All the best Mike.. look forward to seeing you again.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:01 PM   #49
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read between the lines people
There is to many lines and half of them cannot read.

Besides I think it's funny as shit that they are all wishing him well. I'm going to love the OWNED picture at the end of this thread.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:04 PM   #50
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you are a great guy and this will be a blessing. can't wait to party again, this time we'll hit the supperclub in san fran
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