Announcement: Mike Dutch doesn't work for Payserve anymore - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

GoNe · 12-15-2005, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DynaSpain

no comp clausules won't hold up in any dutch court....

I was just thinking the same actually. I know there is two sides of every story but from what I know and that is very little I would like to say that this didnt really make payserve look that good and didnt look like a smart move from their side.

I wish you the best of luck with your future Mike.

justsexxx · 12-15-2005, 04:22 PM

Well when he would just quit, or got fired, it would not hold in court....So maybe it was something else....?

Just Mike · 12-15-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Well when he would just quit, or got fired, it would not hold in court....So maybe it was something else....?

Or maybe that is the preception that was hoped would be created...Cirumstances can be easily twisted to fit ones own purpose if one so chose.

Redbird · 12-16-2005, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexentertain_mike

However, it has been my experience that many BIG companies, throughout the world, often use "tactics" that they know are not enforcable becuase they realize the former employee would have to spend a large sum of money hiring an attorney and fighting a long and expensive legal battle to ultimately gain nothing more then a "You were right" from the courts.

In my opinion, a former employee could easily spend $30,000 + for the court to say that the non compete agreement will remain in affect until the judge has made his ruling. You and I both know how slow court systems work and it wouldn't be unreasonable to wait upt to a year and a half before you heard that you were right all along.

So, basically after spending over 30K and not be able to work in the industry for a year and a half the only thing you win is a "you were right mr. Former employee "

In the end it doesnt make financial sense even though it does on principal.

I never post here since I couldn't care less. But I have known Mike since 2.5 years since he started with payserve and I would like to thank him for his help and advise. Mike helped me alot with promoting and I think he helped putting them back on the map.

Sexentertain_mike, I think you make a strong point here. Compete agreements can be hard to fight and the costs can become very high. If a company wants to fight it, for whatever reason, it can go through several courts and take up quite some time. Time means money with lawyers and spending a $250 bucks an hour is nothing special. If a company wants to fight through all courts I can imagine the costs would rise sky high and if you can't work untill the last word is said, you have high costs and you could extent the time you are not able to work.

Best luck to Mike and Payserve !

I know where to find you mike ;)

Roald · 12-16-2005, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by _Danielle_

This is very good advice...no offense but, isn't this exactly what you are doing? Judging one side?

No, I am just saying that the ones saying Payserve fucked up should think a bit before replying ;))

Jman · 12-16-2005, 08:56 AM

Mie you wil be missed for a year but time flies, especially when you go back to school, which I think is the smartest decision you could of made.

Stay Gold bro and keep in touch ;-)

jmk · 12-16-2005, 09:48 AM

First of all Mike is one of my favorite guys I met in this industry. Honest, smart, cool, nice and straight hahaha

Glad you are doing the best out of this situation! And as I know you, you will honor this "contract". (Other people do NOT honor contracts, all I have to say)

He was always there when I needed help or just someone to drink a beer and hunt women

I will look forward to welcome you back to the biz in one year! Can't wait! In the meantime let's stay in touch. I will try to come over there while here in Europe. Would love to check out that club with VIP treatment

Stay like you are! We love you Mikey!

Raja · 12-16-2005, 03:21 PM

This thread turned into a giant Mike love fest. I know Mike didn't have an ego before, but after 3 pages of hearing how great you are your head has to start to swell.

Anybody who has spoken to Mike for 5 mins knows that there is not one drop of malice in him. For anybody to insinuate that Mike did anything wrong in his dealing is crazy.

Mike, I'll miss you at the shows. When your ready let me know what your working on and we will find a way to do some biz together.

Now get back to your homework!

buldog · 12-16-2005, 04:07 PM

Mike, When you hit Noordwijk Beach give me a ring! My door is always open for you!

Marshal · 12-16-2005, 05:07 PM

hi there, Mike!

tranza · 12-16-2005, 06:12 PM

good luck dude!

OY · 12-16-2005, 06:17 PM

How about working for a software company like Mansion Productions???

Id take you in a second!

European Lee · 12-16-2005, 06:21 PM

Legally, if you make your money online, in the adult industry, they cant hold you to the non-compete

Regards,

Lee

Redbird · 12-17-2005, 01:44 PM

Bumps Up

_Danielle_ · 12-19-2005, 02:31 PM

Bump for Mike!

Redbird · 12-25-2005, 04:25 PM

Mike thanks for the nice dinner yesterday and good to hear you are doing fine ! *thumbs up*
Merry christmass and a happy new year, see you in the new year dude!

PS hope to catch you on new years eve !

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Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,768	Mie you wil be missed for a year but time flies, especially when you go back to school, which I think is the smartest decision you could of made. Stay Gold bro and keep in touch ;-) __________________ email: [email protected] Best AI Affiliate Program We also do WL at $0.00 upfront costs FantasyXXX.AI Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

12-16-2005, 09:48 AM	#107
jmk Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,391	You are missed Dutchie!!! First of all Mike is one of my favorite guys I met in this industry. Honest, smart, cool, nice and straight hahaha Glad you are doing the best out of this situation! And as I know you, you will honor this "contract". (Other people do NOT honor contracts, all I have to say) He was always there when I needed help or just someone to drink a beer and hunt women I will look forward to welcome you back to the biz in one year! Can't wait! In the meantime let's stay in touch. I will try to come over there while here in Europe. Would love to check out that club with VIP treatment Stay like you are! We love you Mikey!

12-16-2005, 03:21 PM	#108
Raja Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Santa Margarita Posts: 1,094	This thread turned into a giant Mike love fest. I know Mike didn't have an ego before, but after 3 pages of hearing how great you are your head has to start to swell. Anybody who has spoken to Mike for 5 mins knows that there is not one drop of malice in him. For anybody to insinuate that Mike did anything wrong in his dealing is crazy. Mike, I'll miss you at the shows. When your ready let me know what your working on and we will find a way to do some biz together. Now get back to your homework! __________________ Skype: hollywoodraja

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OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	How about working for a software company like Mansion Productions??? Id take you in a second! __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

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12-17-2005, 01:44 PM	#114
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12-19-2005, 02:31 PM	#115
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12-25-2005, 04:25 PM	#116
Redbird Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 95	Mike thanks for the nice dinner yesterday and good to hear you are doing fine ! thumbs up Merry christmass and a happy new year, see you in the new year dude! PS hope to catch you on new years eve ! __________________ sig to small